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Old 17 May 2017, 07:36 AM   #1
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So - I've ignored this question for long enough so looking for some help from the gang. My green sub's (hulk) second hand takes a lot of turns before it starts moving, talking like >30'at times. Sometimes it doesn't start moving but I give the case a small tap and off it goes. What's with this, normal? I've had plenty of the same movement (no date sub, 1st hulk, lol, etc etc) and the seconds hand starts moving at like ten turns. Put me at ease gents. Thanks in advance!
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:39 AM   #2
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It doesn't sound right in my ears, but haven't got any technical expertise to back up this conclusion... I would take it to a rsc.
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:47 AM   #3
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does it demonstrate any other issues? Sometimes I need to give a little rotation to my watches to get them going regardless of how many times a rotate the crown (that includes my hulk).
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:49 AM   #4
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:52 AM   #5
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I had a very similar issue last fall w/my DJ II and ended up requiring a service...second hand stopping, would re-start with a gentle case tap, etc. The issue was with the stem not engaging the winding mechanism for some reason (apologies for the layman speak)...came back from RSC good as new!
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Old 17 May 2017, 07:59 AM   #6
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I had a very similar issue last fall w/my DJ II and ended up requiring a service...second hand stopping, would re-start with a gentle case tap, etc. The issue was with the stem not engaging the winding mechanism for some reason (apologies for the layman speak)...came back from RSC good as new!
That isn't similar. He is talking about starting a Rolex from "off" not a Rolex stopping while working. Taking a few winds before a Rolex starts is normal.

"Winding a Rolex does not always immediately start the watch. Never shake a watch that is not working. Rather, gently rock it (as you would if you were wearing it on your wrist), to begin the movement. If this does not work, lay the watch down and allow it time to begin on its own. If it continues to not work, take the watch to a certified Rolex dealer who can assess if the watch has been damaged. If it is damaged, they will return it to Rolex for repair."

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Old 17 May 2017, 07:59 AM   #7
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That would bug me as my Rolexes tend to start pretty quickly, but I don't think the slow engagement is a significant issue, but I'd send it in if it bothers you as it isn't a PP.
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Old 17 May 2017, 08:00 AM   #8
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That would bug me as my Rolexes tend to start pretty quickly, but I don't think the slow engagement is a significant issue, but I'd send it in if it bothers you as it isn't a PP.

Indeed. That would take 60 turns.


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Old 17 May 2017, 08:36 AM   #9
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This is good to read. I have a 20 year old explorer 2 that needs a tap after a week in the safe.
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Old 17 May 2017, 08:46 AM   #10
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I'm not sure if it's completely normal....but some of my older pieces take more turns than usual to get going sometimes and sometimes require a light tap to get the second hand going. This hasn't happened to any of my 6 digit references from Rolex but my watchmaker told me that's no something of major concern on my other watches....I'd say how it keeps time and how consistent is a better tell if something is wrong or not.
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:06 AM   #11
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doesnt sound right for a 6 digit sub. it should work after 10 or 15 turns and definitely not after tapping the watch. LOL
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:06 AM   #12
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Need to build up sufficient torque in the mainspring to move the gears. Every watch will be slightly different.
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:11 AM   #13
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Sounds like it needs service
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:14 AM   #14
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:17 AM   #15
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All of mine start after about 10 turns, that sound strange to me.
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:27 AM   #16
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Sounds exactly like all of my rolexes, Adam! Rest easy


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Old 17 May 2017, 09:49 AM   #17
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Sounds exactly like all of my rolexes, Adam! Rest easy


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Dude - some of yours are like 35 years old and missing a pip
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Old 17 May 2017, 09:52 AM   #18
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Gents

I've got 8/12 - saying it's fine. A few abstained. I'd like to hit 90percent or have a few more experts chime in like breitling did. Then I'll put the issue to bed. Thanks to all those that read / chimed in
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Old 17 May 2017, 10:01 AM   #19
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I'm not an expect but the 5 watches listed below all will generally start moving (second hand) somewhere between 10 to 15 winds.

If that's the only issue you're having, I don't think I'd send it in. Takes way too long to get the watch back.
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Old 17 May 2017, 11:11 AM   #20
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Dude - some of yours are like 35 years old and missing a pip


Haha precisely why you shouldn't worry


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Old 17 May 2017, 11:16 AM   #21
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No biggie, sometimes mine doesn't go until I give it the J.J. swirl.....
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Old 17 May 2017, 11:52 AM   #22
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I noticed this with my SubC date shortly after getting it. The bezel was also not alligned perfectly- both bugged the crap out of me so sent it to RSC under warranty - they fixed the bezel but said the winding issue was normal.


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Old 17 May 2017, 01:32 PM   #23
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Some of my Rolexes do this and some don't. There is no rhyme or reason as to why some do and some don't other than how long it's been since they've been worn. I have a 20-year old YM and 12 year-old GMT that start right up and a 9 year-old sub that takes 30 turns.
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Old 17 May 2017, 01:56 PM   #24
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Need to build up sufficient torque in the mainspring to move the gears. Every watch will be slightly different.
Right Mike !!!
My Bluesy after a couple of weeks waiting patiently
did the same when I wound it to set the time and wear it!
After it was fully wound, no issues ... it Kept perfect
Rolex time !!!
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Old 17 May 2017, 02:02 PM   #25
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No issues; mine does the same thing. It's all about torque. Each engine is different.
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Old 17 May 2017, 04:13 PM   #26
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The winding may be ok but why would you need to tap the watch to get it to move? That is the big concern.

The tapping part I would NOT be ok with. Its like tapping a broken record player to get it working each time. I actually had one like that before which I banged to get it to work. LOL

The 30 winds fair enough like everyone was saying maybe your movement is a little harder to get started.
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Old 17 May 2017, 05:15 PM   #27
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Need to build up sufficient torque in the mainspring to move the gears. Every watch will be slightly different.
Have to agree and quite normal for many mechanical watches.
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Old 17 May 2017, 05:34 PM   #28
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All of mine behave a little different. Some start up after a few winds, some after 20 and my YM require a gentle shake. Does not bother me, once it goes running I don't have to charge it with a manual wind and it keeps going on the energy from the rotor.
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I always give mines an easy wake-up shake before winding, if it's at a dead stop.
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Old 17 May 2017, 06:02 PM   #30
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This is good to read. I have a 20 year old explorer 2 that needs a tap after a week in the safe.
My '91 EXII does that occasionally, performs flawlessly other than that. 3185 movement.
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