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powerfunk · 9 March 2019, 01:39 AM

Just checking, is the consensus that these are fake/redone dials? Antiquorum said both watches were "accompanied by a recent Rolex certificate of overhaul" and the one with black subdials also had a "letter of authentification."

Antiquorum, around the same time, also sold some obvious fantasy fakes such as the "Rolex 1690" and "Tudor 7206" so clearly they've sold misrepresented stuff for big money before.

GLADIATOR · 9 March 2019, 04:02 AM

So where is the letter?

123Blueface · 9 March 2019, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

So where is the letter?

I would venture to guess in the possession of the person that paid over $300,000 for it?

cht · 9 March 2019, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

So where is the letter?

I have the email but I won't show you...it's real and it exists.

CorradoBrit · 9 March 2019, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cht

I have the email but I won't show you...it's real and it exists.

Touche

GLADIATOR · 9 March 2019, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 123Blueface

I would venture to guess in the possession of the person that paid over $300,000 for it?

So the watches were genuine?

123Blueface · 9 March 2019, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

So the watches were genuine?

Don’t know.
Just saying that if there is a letter that was available at time of auction, the buyer would likely have it, not the OP.

GLADIATOR · 9 March 2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Don’t know.
Just saying that if there is a letter that was available at time of auction, the buyer would likely have it, not the OP.

Understand - thanks your clarification

powerfunk · 9 March 2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

So the watches were genuine?

Maybe they were just rejected prototype Singer dials. In '03 the ol' "stick a rejected prototype from a dial supplier into a period-correct watch for big $$$" schtick probably wasn't as well-known then

toxicavenger · 9 March 2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cht

I have the email but I won't show you...it's real and it exists.

Hahaha right??? That guy is whack to say the least.

9 March 2019, 01:39 AM	#1
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,780	Consensus is that the red Paul Newmans Antiquorum sold in '03 are fake/redone, right? Just checking, is the consensus that these are fake/redone dials? Antiquorum said both watches were "accompanied by a recent Rolex certificate of overhaul" and the one with black subdials also had a "letter of authentification." Antiquorum, around the same time, also sold some obvious fantasy fakes such as the "Rolex 1690" and "Tudor 7206" so clearly they've sold misrepresented stuff for big money before.

9 March 2019, 04:02 AM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	So where is the letter? __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

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