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Strummer · 14 March 2019, 11:43 AM

All,

I’m thinking of diving into the Patek world for the first time later this month or early next. I’ve finally downsized my collection to a couple GADA pieces (114060 & 214270) that I wear all the time. I’m looking to add a gold (dress) piece that I can wear regularly. Love the idea of a mechanical, no date, gold watch that I can quickly set and go for a couple days without worry (aside from winding as needed). This has brought me to the 5196. I love everything about it.

Which brings me to my question: Is there anyone out there who wears a 5196 with relative regularity that can provide some feedback on reliability and general function. Are they incredibly delicate? Aside from submerging in water, can I use it as an everyday watch? Any real world maintenance issues/cost/feedback or any quibbles? Would a VC Partrimony Tradionnelle or ALS Saxonia be more practical?

Appologies if this thread has already been beaten to death. Thanks to everyone in advance. The info is greatly appreciated.

Best,

GB-man · 14 March 2019, 04:23 PM

That movement has been in serice for a very long time which leads me to believe it’s proven. I’ve not heard any complaints online about one failing. Interested to hear some feedback as well.

mineral · 14 March 2019, 05:25 PM

I had similar dilemma as you long time ago when I had choice to choose Patek 5196, ALS 1815 manual (not Saxonia) and VC Patrimony. At the end i purchased the VC. I only owned the VC for short period of time and sold it away.

If you ask me if I have given choice again, I will go with the 5196 especially the rose gold silver dial.

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G M Francis · 14 March 2019, 06:50 PM

I had a 5196g for years and when it stopped getting worn I traded it. Big mistake, it’s back on the top of my radar again. It’s a great looking, every day wearer and I never had any problems with the movement. It’s a long established calibre

Strummer · 14 March 2019, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

That movement has been in serice for a very long time which leads me to believe it’s proven. I’ve not heard any complaints online about one failing. Interested to hear some feedback as well.

Understood all around. For a watch and movement that have been around for so long, there’s very little in the way on long term reviews anywhere online. Cheers to you.

Strummer · 14 March 2019, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G M Francis

I had a 5196g for years and when it stopped getting worn I traded it. Big mistake, it’s back on the top of my radar again. It’s a great looking, every day wearer and I never had any problems with the movement. It’s a long established calibre

Thanks for that. Good to know all around.

Strummer · 14 March 2019, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mineral

I had similar dilemma as you long time ago when I had choice to choose Patek 5196, ALS 1815 manual (not Saxonia) and VC Patrimony. At the end i purchased the VC. I only owned the VC for short period of time and sold it away.

If you ask me if I have given choice again, I will go with the 5196 especially the rose gold silver dial.

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Just out of curiosity, Why did you get rid of the VC? Pretty watch. Thx!

G M Francis · 15 March 2019, 06:22 AM

Funnily enough I had a VC patrimony. A really beautiful watch but for me it looked great with a suit and that was it. Wearing it with jeans and a t shirt was a non starter, it looked completely out of place. It didn’t get a lot of wrist time but I did spend a lot of time looking at it on my desk.... However I had my 5196 on a dark red/ brown alligator strap and I felt that went well with anything.

csx7034 · 15 March 2019, 07:08 AM

I have not had any issues with mine, jumped in the pool a few times after having few too many beers. Its hard to remember when you are used to wearing Rolex watches.

Strummer · 15 March 2019, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by G M Francis

Funnily enough I had a VC patrimony. A really beautiful watch but for me it looked great with a suit and that was it. Wearing it with jeans and a t shirt was a non starter, it looked completely out of place. It didn’t get a lot of wrist time but I did spend a lot of time looking at it on my desk.... However I had my 5196 on a dark red/ brown alligator strap and I felt that went well with anything.

Love the VC. That’s solid intel. I’m going to Vegas for work in a couple weeks and the plan is to try everything on. VC, Lange, Patek, even Cartier Drive extra flat. I’m going to dress super casual (jeans and button down) an see what works, and what doesn’t. Heart is kinda set in that 5196R though.

Strummer · 15 March 2019, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by csx7034

I have not had any issues with mine, jumped in the pool a few times after having few too many beers. Its hard to remember when you are used to wearing Rolex watches.

Haha. Right. I can see some jagoff friend pushing me in after a couple Bourbons. I’ll have to be more vigilant. Stay frosty.

liu_watch · 15 March 2019, 07:44 AM

I have a PP with the same caliber. I wear it in rotation with others, so cannot really comment on the reliability. Haven’t had any issues in the past 3 years under occasional use. The winding is smooth and efficient. Time keeping has been excellent.

My only nitpick is that the mov’t is small for the case. Basel is around the corner. Perhaps Patek will release a new generation of Calatrava?

Codik · 15 March 2019, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by csx7034

I have not had any issues with mine, jumped in the pool a few times after having few too many beers. Its hard to remember when you are used to wearing Rolex watches.

Would you mind sharing how the strap survived your swim in the pool? I am worried of destroying it just by washing my hands.

csx7034 · 15 March 2019, 07:54 AM

Once I realized the mistake after swimming a full length, I just got out an grabbed a towel and wiped it down each time. So far cannot tell anything happened.

Strummer · 15 March 2019, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liu_watch

I have a PP with the same caliber. I wear it in rotation with others, so cannot really comment on the reliability. Haven’t had any issues in the past 3 years under occasional use. The winding is smooth and efficient. Time keeping has been excellent.

My only nitpick is that the mov’t is small for the case. Basel is around the corner. Perhaps Patek will release a new generation of Calatrava?

If it’s reliable and accurate, I don’t really care about the size of the 215 movement. Especially if there’s no display back. I’ve had watches with them in the past and I can say I don’t pay much attention to it. I want ito work well, that the top priority for me. Iwas curious about the time keeping, so that feedback helps. I’m so interested to see if that release a new Calatrava. Especially with all the rumors that they are shit canning the 5119. Thanks again.

Sam Philip · 15 March 2019, 07:57 AM

I really like the 5196 series and 5196P is my favourite of the 5196 series. 5196P is similar to the original reference 96 as well as to the very rare stainless steel version of 570.

5196 is robust enough to use as a daily watch.

Calatrava r · 15 March 2019, 11:11 AM

Reliability is not an issue. This is a workhorse watch you can wear for 50 years and pass on. Patek has never up graded the 215ps as it is their most robust offering.

wisguy · 15 March 2019, 11:48 AM

Great everyday watch.

I passed on it to get an Saxonia Thin, now I want the 5196.... the grass is always greener.

Dannyanderson · 15 March 2019, 12:01 PM

Patek 5196 reliability is not an issue, its incredible how watches such as Patek can make the simplest design features perfect and unique. Good luck!!

LKK · 15 March 2019, 12:24 PM

It’s been 12years since I bought my 5196r.... still using it regularly.

Definitely a recommended dress watch to own

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Strummer · 15 March 2019, 02:15 PM

Awesome, awesome, awesome. What I was hoping to hear. Thanks again for all the responses.

Strummer · 15 March 2019, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wisguy

Great everyday watch.

I passed on it to get an Saxonia Thin, now I want the 5196.... the grass is always greener.

Thats a rad 3 watch collection man.

Strummer · 15 March 2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LKK

It’s been 12years since I bought my 5196r.... still using it regularly.

Definitely a recommended dress watch to own

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Thanks for the that. How many times have you serviced it in that time frame? Just curious. Cheers.

LKK · 15 March 2019, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Strummer

Thanks for the that. How many times have you serviced it in that time frame? Just curious. Cheers.

0 (zero)

Watch is working smoothly like butter all these years.

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DanielTomp · 15 March 2019, 10:40 PM

I’m going to dress super casual (jeans and button down) an see what works, and what doesn’t. Heart is kinda set in that 5196R though.

Strummer · 16 March 2019, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LKK

0 (zero)

Watch is working smoothly like butter all these years.

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Can’t tell you how much that helps in the decision making process. Really appreciate the feedback. Best to you and yours.

LKK · 16 March 2019, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Strummer

Can’t tell you how much that helps in the decision making process. Really appreciate the feedback. Best to you and yours.

Now I can’t stop... you’ve created a topic on my favourite... Calatrava

Only a little sign of ageing... Guess it’s been well hidden under the sleeves.

Best of luck & Happy hunting.

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Strummer · 16 March 2019, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LKK

Now I can’t stop... you’ve created a topic on my favourite... Calatrava

Only a little sign of ageing... Guess it’s been well hidden under the sleeves.

Best of luck & Happy hunting.

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She’s a beauty!! Thanks for the pic! I’ll update in a couple weeks when I head out to Vegas. Have a great weekend.

14 March 2019, 11:43 AM	#1
Strummer "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 108	Anyone familiar with Patek 5196 Reliability? All, I’m thinking of diving into the Patek world for the first time later this month or early next. I’ve finally downsized my collection to a couple GADA pieces (114060 & 214270) that I wear all the time. I’m looking to add a gold (dress) piece that I can wear regularly. Love the idea of a mechanical, no date, gold watch that I can quickly set and go for a couple days without worry (aside from winding as needed). This has brought me to the 5196. I love everything about it. Which brings me to my question: Is there anyone out there who wears a 5196 with relative regularity that can provide some feedback on reliability and general function. Are they incredibly delicate? Aside from submerging in water, can I use it as an everyday watch? Any real world maintenance issues/cost/feedback or any quibbles? Would a VC Partrimony Tradionnelle or ALS Saxonia be more practical? Appologies if this thread has already been beaten to death. Thanks to everyone in advance. The info is greatly appreciated. Best,

14 March 2019, 04:23 PM	#2
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,859	That movement has been in serice for a very long time which leads me to believe it’s proven. I’ve not heard any complaints online about one failing. Interested to hear some feedback as well. __________________

14 March 2019, 05:25 PM	#3
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	I had similar dilemma as you long time ago when I had choice to choose Patek 5196, ALS 1815 manual (not Saxonia) and VC Patrimony. At the end i purchased the VC. I only owned the VC for short period of time and sold it away. If you ask me if I have given choice again, I will go with the 5196 especially the rose gold silver dial. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

15 March 2019, 11:48 AM	#18
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	Great everyday watch. I passed on it to get an Saxonia Thin, now I want the 5196.... the grass is always greener. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

14 March 2019, 06:50 PM	#4
G M Francis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: UK Posts: 173	I had a 5196g for years and when it stopped getting worn I traded it. Big mistake, it’s back on the top of my radar again. It’s a great looking, every day wearer and I never had any problems with the movement. It’s a long established calibre

15 March 2019, 06:22 AM	#8
G M Francis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: UK Posts: 173	Funnily enough I had a VC patrimony. A really beautiful watch but for me it looked great with a suit and that was it. Wearing it with jeans and a t shirt was a non starter, it looked completely out of place. It didn’t get a lot of wrist time but I did spend a lot of time looking at it on my desk.... However I had my 5196 on a dark red/ brown alligator strap and I felt that went well with anything.

15 March 2019, 07:08 AM	#9
csx7034 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ca Posts: 38	I have not had any issues with mine, jumped in the pool a few times after having few too many beers. Its hard to remember when you are used to wearing Rolex watches.

15 March 2019, 07:44 AM	#12
liu_watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: FL Posts: 667	I have a PP with the same caliber. I wear it in rotation with others, so cannot really comment on the reliability. Haven’t had any issues in the past 3 years under occasional use. The winding is smooth and efficient. Time keeping has been excellent. My only nitpick is that the mov’t is small for the case. Basel is around the corner. Perhaps Patek will release a new generation of Calatrava?

15 March 2019, 07:54 AM	#14
csx7034 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ca Posts: 38	Once I realized the mistake after swimming a full length, I just got out an grabbed a towel and wiped it down each time. So far cannot tell anything happened.

15 March 2019, 07:57 AM	#16
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	I really like the 5196 series and 5196P is my favourite of the 5196 series. 5196P is similar to the original reference 96 as well as to the very rare stainless steel version of 570. 5196 is robust enough to use as a daily watch.

15 March 2019, 11:11 AM	#17
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,594	Reliability is not an issue. This is a workhorse watch you can wear for 50 years and pass on. Patek has never up graded the 215ps as it is their most robust offering.

15 March 2019, 12:01 PM	#19
Dannyanderson Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: USA Posts: 83	Patek 5196 reliability is not an issue, its incredible how watches such as Patek can make the simplest design features perfect and unique. Good luck!!

15 March 2019, 12:24 PM	#20
LKK "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 99	It’s been 12years since I bought my 5196r.... still using it regularly. Definitely a recommended dress watch to own Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

15 March 2019, 02:15 PM	#21
Strummer "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 108	Awesome, awesome, awesome. What I was hoping to hear. Thanks again for all the responses.

15 March 2019, 10:40 PM	#25
DanielTomp "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 11	I’m going to dress super casual (jeans and button down) an see what works, and what doesn’t. Heart is kinda set in that 5196R though.

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