Genuine Submariner LV with a discrepancy

[Sarky450]

Hi All, posted a couple times now but I’ve now got some facts. My 2008 16610LV has been taken to my local jewellers who deal with Rolex and have taken it apart and said it’s genuine, they looked at the back of the movement too, not just on the face after taking then back off.

The rehaut serial number is the same as the card which is M566160, but between the lugs it is M565160. I’ve been going mad over this and called all the people I know and lots of them have said it could just be a Rolex error, sounds bad but they’ve said they’re all hand made and a mistake could be made. Everything else has been checked thoroughly (glass, bracelet, etc). These are people who have worked with watches / Rolex so know their stuff.

What do people make of this? Have you had a genuine Rolex error?

Very interested to hear your opinions.

Many thanks!

[watchmaker]

Rolex does make mistakes.

Can you post a photo of it? I've seen serial numbers between the lugs get slightly worn down by the end link of the bracelet. Could that be whats happened?

[Sarky450]

Thanks for your reply. I’m trying to send a photo but my phone won’t let me. It’s pretty clear to me as the watch is in very good condition. I’ve also searched the web for counterfeit etchings against originals and mine is quite obviously genuine to me. I’ll see if I can upload photos from my laptop tonight.

Thanks

[173rdabn]

Appears to be a simple error. The hard parts all match. The card really doesn't matter at this point.

[tmw88]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Rolex does make mistakes.

Tell that to the guy who bought an Air King with two 9s on the dial and no 3!

Originally Posted by 173rdabn

Appears to be a simple error. The hard parts all match. The card really doesn't matter at this point.

Sounds like he’s saying the hard parts don’t match. The rehaut and case serials don’t match.

It does seem like a mistake to me though. Human error happens.

[Sarky450]

Thanks for all your input. I am glad you agree there are human errors and to me, the box looks genuine as I’ve seen some bad copies. I wonder what Rolex would do if I took it in for service? Wether they’d do something about it, ignore it, or bring it up?

[Al1969]

Post some pics when you’re able to OP.

[DoctorA]

One way to know! Send it to rolex and see what they come back with!

[Greg.A]

Did you bought this new? Hopefully it wasn’t tampered with before

[zjd168]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

One way to know! Send it to rolex and see what they come back with!

yeah this is the only way to confirm. This kind of error is weird.

[martin.skeet]

I have just been working on evidence for a legal dispute with a 1990s Rolex Seadweller carrying the serial number of a 1990s Submariner. I can tell you based on that experience that Rolex will call your watch a fake if those numbers do not match. I have no doubt based on the examination of the Seadweller that Rolex make mistakes- they just never admit to them.


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[Sarky450]

thanks Martin for the insight. Although unfortunate to know Rolex wouldn’t authenticate it I do wonder how I will sell this piece on? Would no one touch it, or would Rolex keep it? I may have to keep it forever knowing all parts are correct but one mis-stamped number puts everyone off.

[Atone]

wow, that's nuts. as mentioned, pics would be helpful

[newsboy]

Pics would be very helpful

[scooba]

I would take it into Kings hill and have them look at it .

[Tools]

The dual-serial LV is a very rare piece indeed.

[Polarexplorerii]

wow, that is crazy! I have never heard of that happening

[fleabag]

I’ve seen two sets of identical stamped papers that belonged to a 16610 ....


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[Jeanf]

Very suspicious... Will be a big issue if ever you want to sell.

[Mr. K]

Originally Posted by Jeanf

Very suspicious... Will be a big issue if ever you want to sell.

This may be true. Given that particular watch and its value, nobody wants to pay large sums of money when there's any kind of red flags.

I would write a note to Rolex and see how they respond. If they respond favorably, then it could actually increase the value of the watch to the right buyer. But you would have to document it quite well.

Did you buy the watch new? That should help out quite a bit. Like it has been said before, hopefully nothing funky happened to it before you bought it.

[Rado63]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

One way to know! Send it to rolex and see what they come back with!

See above. I would do this.

[Grnvette65]

Could it be a replacement case

[samsmart]

I am like 90% sure the rehaut and case are one piece so it's like 2 serial numbers written different on the same case. Very strange. I wonder if rolex would keep if as counterfeit if you sent it to them. Maybe a wise tale, but I always heard thats what rolex does when a watch they deem as counterfeit crosses their desk...

Good luck!

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[Nikrnic]

Sounds like that was a human error mistake at the factory during production to me. Its possible with those close numbers. Dyslexia is not uncommon.

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