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Old 23 May 2024, 02:46 AM   #1
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Black Ceramic Double Balance

Thinking about buying the AP double balance black ceramic in the grey market. Any thoughts on durability of the full ceramic piece? Anyone actually ever scratch one? I know they can crack, but I haven't seen any that have been scratched up.
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Old 23 May 2024, 04:02 AM   #2
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I have the Ceramic ROO with the rubber strap and wear it a lot and no issues for me and thats much larger than the RO DB

I have a Hublot all black ceramic and ITS SICK!!!! the shine off the black ceramic is amazing and I love wearing it
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Old 23 May 2024, 04:21 AM   #3
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I have the DB CE. I wear it a lot and don't have any scratches yet.
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Old 23 May 2024, 04:51 AM   #4
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I have the DB CE. I wear it a lot and don't have any scratches yet.
That's great, I got OCD with scratches on my other pieces.. but, probably shouldn't since it's a sign that I'm actually wearing them and not safe queens. Does the DB CE show any signs of wear?
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Old 23 May 2024, 05:06 AM   #5
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My wife has the 34mm black ceramic, and it is her most worn AP. The entire point of ceramic is that it doesn't scratch that easily, which I can confirm.
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Old 23 May 2024, 12:34 PM   #6
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Not easy to scratch.
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Old 23 May 2024, 02:10 PM   #7
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That's great, I got OCD with scratches on my other pieces.. but, probably shouldn't since it's a sign that I'm actually wearing them and not safe queens. Does the DB CE show any signs of wear?

Mine shows no signs of wear at all. My wife's 34m CE also does not show any wear. She wears it the most and she has no wrist awareness. Her other AP's are pretty scratched up, but the CE is pristine.
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Old 23 May 2024, 04:46 PM   #8
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Similar here. CE no scratches at all (although be careful with the titanium case back). Other AP's have a bunch of scratches that I have no idea where they came from.
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Old 23 May 2024, 10:58 PM   #9
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CE doesn't scratch. However, if dropped, the whole watch/bracelet can fracture or break. It is just the nature of ceramic material.

not saying that it will happen...
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Old 24 May 2024, 08:39 PM   #10
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I have the 44mm black ceramic ROO & don't have any scratches or chips. The only thing that makes me regularly nervous/cautious are the exposed edges of my kitchen countertops (with rustic/raw/unpolished edges). I know the ceramic is tough, but so is granite and I don't want to have them collide and see how it holds up to the abrasive edge.

Regardless, I've had it for ~7 years and haven't damaged it yet.
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Old 24 May 2024, 11:30 PM   #11
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it won't scratch
mine is as good as new and been wearing it a lot over the last 2years. Swimming, to the gym, driving sports cars in GT races, etc.
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Old 26 May 2024, 11:32 AM   #12
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Black Ceramic Double Balance

I think you guys need to postsome pics of them for proof :)


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Old 28 May 2024, 04:03 AM   #13
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I own and been beating my 15707CE ceramic diver for 8 years and not a single scratch. I can for sure confirm it does not scratch from rubbing to anything metal. Also dinged it a couple of times against railings and not a scratch. Only scratches mine has are on the titanium back and buckle.
Can’t say the same about my steel RO or rose gold ROO…
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Old 28 May 2024, 04:24 AM   #14
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Here are a few of my ceramic watches

I rock the Black Gold Beast in my rotation on the regular
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Old 29 May 2024, 12:30 AM   #15
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Go for it, it's a beautiful piece
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Old 29 May 2024, 02:02 AM   #16
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Go for it, it's a beautiful piece
I think I will, just contemplating waiting to see if a new double balance ceramic comes out soon. I also think there is a good amount of room for price to come down further on this one. AP market and rest of watch market is tanking. Most dealers won't even buy this piece for more than 160k unless you consign.
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Old 29 May 2024, 05:09 AM   #17
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I think I will, just contemplating waiting to see if a new double balance ceramic comes out soon. I also think there is a good amount of room for price to come down further on this one. AP market and rest of watch market is tanking. Most dealers won't even buy this piece for more than 160k unless you consign.
$160K USD for the Black ceramic Double Balance? on the gray market?
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Old 29 May 2024, 08:40 AM   #18
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I think I will, just contemplating waiting to see if a new double balance ceramic comes out soon. I also think there is a good amount of room for price to come down further on this one. AP market and rest of watch market is tanking. Most dealers won't even buy this piece for more than 160k unless you consign.
Current ceramic DBW seems underpriced at MSRP, looking at the price difference to the steel version vs e.g., the difference between ceramic chrono and steel chrono, or ceramic ROO vs steel ROO. I'd expect the new one, when/if it comes, to go up in price significantly.
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Old 29 May 2024, 09:26 AM   #19
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Current ceramic DBW seems underpriced at MSRP, looking at the price difference to the steel version vs e.g., the difference between ceramic chrono and steel chrono, or ceramic ROO vs steel ROO. I'd expect the new one, when/if it comes, to go up in price significantly.
I see this happening. I'm more concern with how it's going to look. The current DBW is sexyyy!
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Old 29 May 2024, 10:10 AM   #20
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$160K USD for the Black ceramic Double Balance? on the gray market?
No, I said thatís what a dealer is buying it for from private seller for wholesale. Then attempt to sell at 220-250k range. Many worried for continued price declines so they dealers donít want to put up big money.
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No, I said thatís what a dealer is buying it for from private seller for wholesale. Then attempt to sell at 220-250k range. Many worried for continued price declines so they dealers donít want to put up big money.

Spread seems awfully wide even if market is crap.


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Old 30 May 2024, 12:23 AM   #22
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Try getting a dealer to drop 200k on 1 piece of inventory in a bear market for watches then
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Old 30 May 2024, 02:24 AM   #23
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No, I said thatís what a dealer is buying it for from private seller for wholesale. Then attempt to sell at 220-250k range. Many worried for continued price declines so they dealers donít want to put up big money.
Was offered brand new never worn/sized 5/2024 date for $220kUSD
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Old 30 May 2024, 02:25 AM   #24
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Was offered brand new never worn/sized 5/2024 date for $220kUSD

That's what I said.. but if you are a private seller and trying to sell to a dealer, they will offer you no where near $200k.
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Old 30 May 2024, 10:59 PM   #25
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If anyone is selling a black ceramic double balance, shoot me a txt - located in FL.

5 six 1 - eight 6 6 - two two 1 5.
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Old 31 May 2024, 01:11 AM   #26
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If anyone is selling a black ceramic double balance, shoot me a txt - located in FL.

5 six 1 - eight 6 6 - two two 1 5.
First Class Timepieces has one listed on the classifieds asking 248k =X

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I have the Ceramic ROO with the rubber strap and wear it a lot and no issues for me and thats much larger than the RO DB

I have a Hublot all black ceramic and ITS SICK!!!! the shine off the black ceramic is amazing and I love wearing it
I have a similar all black ceramic Hublot and love it. Ceramic is great because it doesnít scratch and I havenít had any dents or shattering either.

One day a perpetual cal AP RO in ceramic would be awesomeÖ
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If anyone is selling a black ceramic double balance, shoot me a txt - located in FL.

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Iím in tampa area. What part of Florida are you in?
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I have a similar all black ceramic Hublot and love it. Ceramic is great because it doesnít scratch and I havenít had any dents or shattering either.

One day a perpetual cal AP RO in ceramic would be awesomeÖ
the Hublot ceramic is amazing wish I could post a video here of it. Pics donít do it justice.
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Iím in tampa area. What part of Florida are you in?
Palm Beach area
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