Flip 2 ROO 44's for a Datograph?

[tyler1980]

I have not made a decision yet, so am just contemplating at this point. Would you flip both a RG 44 and Ti 44 for an ALS Datograph?

[HL65]

No not a chance. I have owned several platinum Datographs as well as a platinum Doublesplit and as nice as they are to look at I would take your AP's over one all day long. If you do get one you better get 30% off as well or you will take a bath on it. It is also a very hard watch to move if you decide to sell. Again amazing look and movement but no way for me.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by HL65

No not a chance. I have owned several platinum Datographs as well as a platinum Doublesplit and as nice as they are to look at I would take your AP's over one all day long. If you do get one you better get 30% off as well or you will take a bath on it. It is also a very hard watch to move if you decide to sell. Again amazing look and movement but no way for me.

yeah, i do know resale is a concern. Thats my main hesitation with ALS in general. As much as we all like to think we won't sell our watches, most end up getting moved on at some point.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

yeah, i do know resale is a concern. Thats my main hesitation with ALS in general. As much as we all like to think we won't sell our watches, most end up getting moved on at some point.

Oh I know what you mean, like the guy who just got the 2 coolest ROO's and soon after wants to trade them for a dato...

[Manofsteelpt]

Originally Posted by lapince

oh i know what you mean, like the guy who just got the 2 coolest roo's and soon after wants to trade them for a dato...

lololololololol

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by lapince

Oh I know what you mean, like the guy who just got the 2 coolest ROO's and soon after wants to trade them for a dato...

when you put it that way, it does sound bad. Im going to sit tight, no impulse decisions for the moment.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

when you put it that way, it does sound bad. Im going to sit tight, no impulse decisions for the moment.

My man

[AshAP]

If you do that how are you going to come to the AP gtg?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by AshAP

If you do that how are you going to come to the AP gtg?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ill still have a 15400

This isn't something that is going to happen tomorrow or anything. Just future strategic planning. Ill have them at the GTG provided my RG is back from service by then.

Love the Dato, its admittedly a lot to give up for one though.

[Abdullasaif]

I flipped my FC 44mm and a few other then one of the watches i got was the Dato up down dont regret down sizing the collection

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Abdullasaif

I flipped my FC 44mm and a few other then one of the watches i got was the Dato up down dont regret down sizing the collection

how long have you had the Dato?

[Abdullasaif]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

how long have you had the Dato?

More than a month but I like the watch more than any AP I've owned


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Foxman2k]

I would also add that the 44s can be worn with many different "outfits" from casual to semi formal. The ALS looks like a pure dress watch. For me personally that's why I got rid of most of my watches with leather straps as I never dress up enough to be able to warranty wearing them. Makes the 44s (which I'm currently eyeing) a much better match. But that's me.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Foxman2k

I would also add that the 44s can be worn with many different "outfits" from casual to semi formal. The ALS looks like a pure dress watch. For me personally that's why I got rid of most of my watches with leather straps as I never dress up enough to be able to warranty wearing them. Makes the 44s (which I'm currently eyeing) a much better match. But that's me.

im pretty casual most of the time so that is a factor for sure. The dato though looks more casual than most ALS watches i have tried. Its dressier than a ROO, but still casual enough to wear with jeans and a t shirt. Not a beach watch or a probably a watch to wear with shorts though.

I do tend to favor rubber vs leather too.

Probably going to sit tight for a bit and not make any rash decisions i can't undo but just seeing other points of view to make sure I'm not crazy for thinking about it.

[aleeboy]

Originally Posted by Foxman2k

I would also add that the 44s can be worn with many different "outfits" from casual to semi formal. The ALS looks like a pure dress watch. For me personally that's why I got rid of most of my watches with leather straps as I never dress up enough to be able to warranty wearing them. Makes the 44s (which I'm currently eyeing) a much better match. But that's me.

The Datograph is very tall for its width. I would not call it a dress watch.

I would keep the RG and trade up the Ti for an 1815 Chrono if I were in your position. Would not give up those two for a Datograph. I would not want to keep both though as this is massively redundant IMO.

[masterserg]

I would not.

[gummy]

The AP 44mm RG and Ti are such a great combo...too tough to part with that pair.

[texex91]

Have you tried the Dato on? That would be step one.

Step two, you better buy used, as ALS secondary is terrible.

Third, have your head examined. NO, do NOT trade two 44mm's for a Dato!

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by texex91

Have you tried the Dato on? That would be step one.

Step two, you better buy used, as ALS secondary is terrible.

Third, have your head examined. NO, do NOT trade two 44mm's for a Dato!

have tried it on a couple of times now... Trying to hold off on it at the moment, but once i try a watch on, its a problem as its no longer an abstract concept. I avoided actually trying it on for a long time though for that reason.

This helps though as saying it out loud (or typing in this case) does give you a better perspective on what makes perfect sense in your head.

Its probably my grail watch actually, but I'm thinking patience may be the best option here.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

have tried it on a couple of times now... Trying to hold off on it at the moment, but once i try a watch on, its a problem as its no longer an abstract concept. I avoided actually trying it on for a long time though for that reason.

This helps though as saying it out loud (or typing in this case) does give you a better perspective on what makes perfect sense in your head.

Its probably my grail watch actually, but I'm thinking patience may be the best option here.

Hey, if it's honestly your grail watch, go with your heart and grab it.

Maybe keep Ti 44 so you have a sports watch, flip the orange and add a little cash. 40% off minimum is where you need to be on Dato (and you will probably still lose).

No one is keeping you from a grail, you asked an opinion. But we all know what opinions are like--do what YOU like

[Xerxes77]

Originally Posted by texex91

hey, if it's honestly your grail watch, go with your heart and grab it.

Maybe keep ti 44 so you have a sports watch, flip the orange and add a little cash. 40% off minimum is where you need to be on dato (and you will probably still lose).

No one is keeping you from a grail, you asked an opinion. But we all know what opinions are like--do what you like

x2

[AshAP]

People keep talking about 30-40% discount, who is going to sell the watch with that discount?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[texex91]

Originally Posted by AshAP

People keep talking about 30-40% discount, who is going to sell the watch with that discount?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They probably won't. But on the secondary market when you go to sell...another story.

Dato is a killer watch. No one is disputing that.

[scrappy]

Originally Posted by texex91

They probably won't. But on the secondary market when you go to sell...another story.

Are secondary markets any kinder to APs? It seems to me that aside from Patek and Rolex (and to some degree RM), most watch brands lose 30-40% in the secondary market.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by scrappy

Are secondary markets any kinder to APs? It seems to me that aside from Patek and Rolex (and to some degree RM), most watch brands lose 30-40% in the secondary market.

considering the recent thread with 25% AD discounts being discussed for an AP, resale has to be affected in a major way. In the UK its less of an issue as you can't get that kind of discount so it helps protect value retention a bit more. I recently sold a diver (bought pre UK price rise) and sold it for almost what i paid. If it was not for the price increase i would have lost 20% but i lost 5% vs what i paid. I would have done better if i had sold it myself but was happy with the result.

[Manofsteelpt]

Hard to say no when I was considering trading my 44 and 42 for a Zeitwerk or Dato... Deal seems fair from what I was looking around at, presuming you're not adding cash.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Hard to say no when I was considering trading my 44 and 42 for a Zeitwerk or Dato... Deal seems fair from what I was looking around at, presuming you're not adding cash.

Mike you'd let your 44P go against a datograph? As much as I'd like a dato I don't like it as much as the 44P.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Manofsteelpt]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Mike you'd let your 44P go against a datograph? As much as I'd like a dato I don't like it as much as the 44P.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I do a lot of consideration, Ash... 3 pieces I'd love to have are the Dato, Zeitwerk and the PP 5905. The 44 is still here though

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Hard to say no when I was considering trading my 44 and 42 for a Zeitwerk or Dato... Deal seems fair from what I was looking around at, presuming you're not adding cash.

Mike you'd let your 44P go against a datograph? As much as I'd like a dato I don't like it as much as the 44P.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Hard to say no when I was considering trading my 44 and 42 for a Zeitwerk or Dato... Deal seems fair from what I was looking around at, presuming you're not adding cash.

I'm leaning toward keeping one offshore, probably the Ti as its more of a daily piece and adding cash. Ill have to wait a bit to pull that off though. I would be tough to be without an offshore.