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Old 26 August 2012, 07:17 PM   #1
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312 opinions please

Hi as a newcomer here I am looking at a 312.
Can people please let me know if there are any significant differences between the M and N series...apart from the year of manufacture...

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Old 26 August 2012, 11:45 PM   #2
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To the best of my knowledge, no diff at all.
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Old 26 August 2012, 11:52 PM   #3
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I read the dial on the N series is slightly grayer than the black dial on the M series. Also the back bezel is not polished on the N series. Details, details.
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Old 27 August 2012, 01:45 AM   #4
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I read the dial on the N series is slightly grayer than the black dial on the M series. Also the back bezel is not polished on the N series. Details, details.
Yes some slight dial variations and polished vs brushed caseback around the glass.
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Old 27 August 2012, 07:06 AM   #5
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Thank you for the informative responses!
I tried on the N series over the weekend at my AD.
I really liked how the color of the dial really changed in the light.
Will this still be the case to some degree with the M series?

And ultimately the issue is- if you had two mint 312's, an M and N series would you expect to pay a different amount for either?

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Old 27 August 2012, 10:24 AM   #6
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Thank you for the informative responses!
I tried on the N series over the weekend at my AD.
I really liked how the color of the dial really changed in the light.
Will this still be the case to some degree with the M series?

And ultimately the issue is- if you had two mint 312's, an M and N series would you expect to pay a different amount for either?

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Should be the same as I think dial change was between L & M. Any cost variance between M & N should be negligeably small.
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Old 28 August 2012, 08:15 PM   #7
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Thanks for the helpful advice.
I have also had some feedback from some Panerai dealers and found the O series are available, that the warranty goes with the watch, so that if I sell it after six months, then the buyer has 18 months left, and there is no change from N to O series.
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Old 29 August 2012, 01:08 AM   #8
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Thanks for the helpful advice.
I have also had some feedback from some Panerai dealers and found the O series are available, that the warranty goes with the watch, so that if I sell it after six months, then the buyer has 18 months left, and there is no change from N to O series.
thanks again

Yes, the warranty is international so no worries there

They wil tell you that the model is in high demand, difficult to get, etc, but it does not hurt to negotiate... even if to get an extra strap. The current economy means that even some very popular models (any brand) are not flying out of the AD as once they might have...
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Old 29 August 2012, 08:52 PM   #9
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312 is entry with brown face and the much desired gold hands
BUT in my humble opinion

there are much better pams out there

the case itself is not as desirable as the 1950s case....have a look and compare
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Old 29 August 2012, 09:44 PM   #10
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Hi ryanluo23,

I think you may be confusing the 312 with another model

312 is black faced with silver hands in a 1950's case
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Old 29 August 2012, 10:59 PM   #11
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312 is entry with brown face and the much desired gold hands
BUT in my humble opinion

there are much better pams out there

the case itself is not as desirable as the 1950s case....have a look and compare
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You are either describing the the 390, or the 351 (which is a titanium 1950 case model)
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Old 29 August 2012, 11:57 PM   #12
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And the 351 is a great watch. Not as top heavy and much lighter.
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Old 30 August 2012, 12:17 AM   #13
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Old 31 August 2012, 12:25 AM   #14
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Thank you Clive
wise words- that is the impression that I also had.
The chap at the boutique in Vienna offered to hold a 320 for me until I get there- which is well over a month away.
What a great offer- he even sent me a photo of the back of the watch with the serial number.
I think I will ask for an extra strap and for him to send the box back to Australia for me. It can't hurt...


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Yes, the warranty is international so no worries there

They wil tell you that the model is in high demand, difficult to get, etc, but it does not hurt to negotiate... even if to get an extra strap. The current economy means that even some very popular models (any brand) are not flying out of the AD as once they might have...
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Old 31 August 2012, 12:31 AM   #15
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Yes I would hope the 312 is not considered entry model!
It is a beautiful watch.

The brown face and gold hands may well be a 351; as described this is 1950's case. it is also a bit more that the 312.

But the watch that is being held for me is a 320. Must say I love it, and have been finding it very hard to choose between the three (312, 320, 351).

Good to see some Aussies on board here


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Hi ryanluo23,

I think you may be confusing the 312 with another model

312 is black faced with silver hands in a 1950's case
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Old 31 August 2012, 10:28 AM   #16
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The 320 is a very nice watch - it would be my pick over the 312 and 351

Sounds like you will have an especially enjoyable trip Jeremy
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Old 1 September 2012, 12:09 AM   #17
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I love the Hulk by the way z32turbo- Marcus!

Yes Clive the 320 is probably the better model.
The chap at the boutique has put aside an XL gator strap for me...they are very helpful!

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