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Snow-Dweller · 26 May 2018, 04:06 AM

So, today I went to one of these viewings of the new models at a big Rolex boutique in Lyon (not my usual AD). As expected, I thought the watches were fabulous...

My observations:

It was clear to me that the shape of the lugs has been altered slightly ....they are more curvey. The difference is not enormous, but I was wearing my BLRO and I could see it.

I have read a number of “complaints” about the end-links on the Jubilee bracelet of the SS BLRO. I couldn’t see the problem. I have a DJ41 with Jubilee and the end-link/lug arrangement is similar.

It was confirmed to me that I could have my “old” BLRO dressed with the new blue dial. Interestingly, they pointed out that should I choose to have this done it is permanent....there is no going back to black at a later date. They could not confirm whether this has to be paid for or is free of charge.

T01 · 26 May 2018, 04:09 AM

I'd keep your original BLRO's black dial. It wasn't made very long...

Soleless Shoes · 26 May 2018, 04:18 AM

I prefer the oyster bracelet and just by viewing the photo you can see the WG is softer (or warmer) tone.

Duey · 26 May 2018, 04:30 AM

Nice Clive - Now you can choose your drink

The Pepsi & Diet Pepsi & Root beer

Are you going to part with your Pepsi and go for the Diet Pepsi ?

watchmework · 26 May 2018, 04:34 AM

I wouldn’t change the dial color if I was you, I honestly think your BLRO looks better than the new gmt...between the oyster and WG.

lord91 · 26 May 2018, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by T01

I'd keep your original BLRO's black dial. It wasn't made very long...

Same thoughts here...

Wrist Watcher · 26 May 2018, 04:38 AM

I'm liking the looks of the ss Pepsi more and more.

I would also keep your black dial.

Rolex85 · 26 May 2018, 04:41 AM

I agree with others stating to keep your black dial.

m j b · 26 May 2018, 05:12 AM

I think it's unanimous. :) Keep the black.

I too prefer the Oyster bracelet, not that it matters since I'm not likely getting either one.

Helmi · 26 May 2018, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex85

I agree with others stating to keep your black dial.

+1

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Snow-Dweller · 26 May 2018, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by T01

I'd keep your original BLRO's black dial. It wasn't made very long...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duey

Nice Clive - Now you can choose your drink

The Pepsi & Diet Pepsi & Root beer

Are you going to part with your Pepsi and go for the Diet Pepsi ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchmework

I wouldn’t change the dial color if I was you, I honestly think your BLRO looks better than the new gmt...between the oyster and WG.

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Originally Posted by lord91

Same thoughts here...

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Originally Posted by ClemsonTC

I'm liking the looks of the ss Pepsi more and more.

I would also keep your black dial.

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Originally Posted by Rolex85

I agree with others stating to keep your black dial.

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Originally Posted by m j b

I think it's unanimous. :) Keep the black.

I too prefer the Oyster bracelet, not that it matters since I'm not likely getting either one.

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Originally Posted by Helmi

+1

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Thank you all for the (unanimous) opinions. I’m not really thinking of changing the dial....at least not for now

Here’s my predicament: I absolutely feel the “need” to have both of these new GMTs (and will be getting them sooner rather than later).

If I’m to keep the CHNR then my old TT Sub will be leaving the stable

Selling the WG BLRO will almost pay for the new ones, and having both WG and SS BLROs seems a little over the top.

I do, however, have a timepiece related iron in the fire that (all being well) will pay for the two new watches...in which case I may well find myself with both BLROs......and then I MIGHT reconsider the dial.

....or I may sell the WG.

What wonderful problems to have. I love this hobby!

Boaters · 26 May 2018, 05:53 AM

Wow some beauties there.

mjclark32 · 26 May 2018, 05:55 AM

Nice shots, thanks for sharing
The lugs do look better

ap1 · 26 May 2018, 05:58 AM

Awesome - did you try the blue dial model?

Loevhagen · 26 May 2018, 06:11 AM

Changing the black dial with the blue dial with the "crown" between "Swiss" and "Made"?

Or do they offer an upgrade blue dial?

The reason I ask is simply that it has been stated that the dial also show the new movements...so just replacing the black dial with the new blue dial for this BLRO will be quite misleading, as it doesn't get the new movement in that process...

Snow-Dweller · 26 May 2018, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap1

Awesome - did you try the blue dial model?

They unfortunately didn’t have the blue dial BLRO there for me to look at.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Changing the black dial with the blue dial with the "crown" between "Swiss" and "Made"?

Or do they offer an upgrade blue dial?

The reason I ask is simply that it has been stated that the dial also show the new movements...so just replacing the black dial with the new blue dial for this BLRO will be quite misleading, as it doesn't get the new movement in that process...

I assume that there’s a blue dial without the new crown for exactly such circumstances.

Duey · 26 May 2018, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Changing the black dial with the blue dial with the "crown" between "Swiss" and "Made"?

Or do they offer an upgrade blue dial?

The reason I ask is simply that it has been stated that the dial also show the new movements...so just replacing the black dial with the new blue dial for this BLRO will be quite misleading, as it doesn't get the new movement in that process...

The Blue dial still has the 3186 movement - So No "Crown" between "Swiss" and "Made" so not misleading at all.

Got to love Rolex - Spend more money and we'll give you the old movement

gt0279a · 26 May 2018, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow-Dweller

...My observations:

It was clear to me that the shape of the lugs has been altered slightly ....they are more curvey. The difference is not enormous, but I was wearing my BLRO and I could see it.

Can you elaborate? As in the curve when you view the side of the case?

Snow-Dweller · 26 May 2018, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gt0279a

Can you elaborate? As in the curve when you view the side of the case?

No, not the side of the case. When looking at the dial of the watch, take the older lug and carve a little bit out of it....

Hope that helps!

droptopman · 26 May 2018, 08:20 AM

Thanks for the photos. Looks like you took your friend with you for the viewing. Beautiful dog!

Cru Jones · 26 May 2018, 08:26 AM

Nice photos, thanks!

I can't get over how nice the CHNR looks. :-)

037 · 26 May 2018, 08:32 AM

The CHNR looks like the BLRO's older, wiser brother.

It looks more mature but not "old" like some have suggested. I like it.

How's the new Jubilee? Do you prefer your WG or the new SS overall?

Loevhagen · 26 May 2018, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duey

The Blue dial still has the 3186 movement - So No "Crown" between "Swiss" and "Made" so not misleading at all.

Got to love Rolex - Spend more money and we'll give you the old movement

Cru Jones · 26 May 2018, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duey

The Blue dial still has the 3186 movement - So No "Crown" between "Swiss" and "Made" so not misleading at all.

Got to love Rolex - Spend more money and we'll give you the old movement

Thinking about it some more, it could be on purpose by Rolex.... give one year's transition time to those WG BLRO owners who want to switch to the blue dial to do so if they want. Then, put in the new movement, add the middle crown on the dial, and then no longer allow the switch.

I don't know.... just trying to find some sort of logic.

AK797 · 26 May 2018, 08:39 AM

Nice pics, and thanks for confirming the original claim that the black dial was swappable, thought this was a good gesture from Rolex for those who wanted more clear distinction from the SS, I would be tempted.

037 · 26 May 2018, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Thinking about it some more, it could be on purpose by Rolex.... give one year's transition time to those WG BLRO owners who want to switch to the blue dial to do so if they want. Then, put in the new movement, add the middle crown on the dial, and then no longer allow the switch.

I don't know.... just trying to find some sort of logic.

You might be right. Here's my thought...

Blue dial helps sell the remaining WG GMT cases they have sitting around while making the black dial rare and in demand for those who prefer black. Discontinue the WG BLRO in two years to increase demand for any remaining stock and keep owners happy that they saw short production runs. Sell BLRO bezels on SS models with limited allocation and keep it a "rare" piece overall. Wins all-around.

Obviously I have no idea but it's fun to speculate.

watchtabs · 26 May 2018, 02:52 PM

I definitively wouldn’t want to have an almost same looking watch as someone who spent 1/4th the msrp.

I vote blue dial. If they discontinue it in 2yrs (as many have said) it will be the new rare. And soon enough the SS Blro will be as common as the Batman is.

I am actually eating my words about the new SS gmt. I like it more and more.

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Nikrnic · 26 May 2018, 03:16 PM

If I had your BLRO I sure wouldn't want anything else. Although the blue dial would be tempting ld leave it original. I'm thinking down the road that be would be more wise.

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WS9D · 26 May 2018, 03:42 PM

Your blro is very nice as is. One of my grail pieces.

I prefer the blnr to the new ss blro. Honestly the rest of my collection sits because of the blnr. This is one long honeymoon.

dr3ws · 26 May 2018, 04:12 PM

I would keep the black dial if I were you, btw I still couldn't see if the lugs on the new GMTs are slimmer

26 May 2018, 04:06 AM	#1
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,271	2018 Basel GMTs So, today I went to one of these viewings of the new models at a big Rolex boutique in Lyon (not my usual AD). As expected, I thought the watches were fabulous... My observations: It was clear to me that the shape of the lugs has been altered slightly ....they are more curvey. The difference is not enormous, but I was wearing my BLRO and I could see it. I have read a number of “complaints” about the end-links on the Jubilee bracelet of the SS BLRO. I couldn’t see the problem. I have a DJ41 with Jubilee and the end-link/lug arrangement is similar. It was confirmed to me that I could have my “old” BLRO dressed with the new blue dial. Interestingly, they pointed out that should I choose to have this done it is permanent....there is no going back to black at a later date. They could not confirm whether this has to be paid for or is free of charge. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. BB58. GMW-B5000D.

26 May 2018, 04:38 AM	#7
Wrist Watcher 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 1,440	I'm liking the looks of the ss Pepsi more and more. I would also keep your black dial. __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV (Hulk) Rolex GMT Master II 126710BLRO (Pepsi) Rolex Daytona 116500LN (White)

26 May 2018, 05:12 AM	#9
m j b "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: RTP, NC, USA Watch: ♕& Ω Posts: 5,090	I think it's unanimous. :) Keep the black. I too prefer the Oyster bracelet, not that it matters since I'm not likely getting either one. __________________ Enjoy life - it has an expiration date. Disclaimer: Please note that the avatar is not an accurate representation of how I look. The camera adds 10 pounds...

26 May 2018, 05:55 AM	#13
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Nice shots, thanks for sharing The lugs do look better __________________

26 May 2018, 08:20 AM	#20
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Thanks for the photos. Looks like you took your friend with you for the viewing. Beautiful dog! __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

26 May 2018, 04:09 AM	#2
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,481	I'd keep your original BLRO's black dial. It wasn't made very long...

26 May 2018, 04:18 AM	#3
Soleless Shoes "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Rich Location: United States Posts: 299	I prefer the oyster bracelet and just by viewing the photo you can see the WG is softer (or warmer) tone.

26 May 2018, 04:30 AM	#4
Duey 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Duey Location: Maui Watch: Too Many To List Posts: 3,575	Nice Clive - Now you can choose your drink The Pepsi & Diet Pepsi & Root beer Are you going to part with your Pepsi and go for the Diet Pepsi ?

26 May 2018, 04:34 AM	#5
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	I wouldn’t change the dial color if I was you, I honestly think your BLRO looks better than the new gmt...between the oyster and WG.

26 May 2018, 04:41 AM	#8
Rolex85 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 602	I agree with others stating to keep your black dial.

26 May 2018, 05:53 AM	#12
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	Wow some beauties there.

26 May 2018, 05:58 AM	#14
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,035	Awesome - did you try the blue dial model?

26 May 2018, 06:11 AM	#15
Loevhagen "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: The aperture Posts: 4,906	Changing the black dial with the blue dial with the "crown" between "Swiss" and "Made"? Or do they offer an upgrade blue dial? The reason I ask is simply that it has been stated that the dial also show the new movements...so just replacing the black dial with the new blue dial for this BLRO will be quite misleading, as it doesn't get the new movement in that process...

26 May 2018, 08:26 AM	#21
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,475	Nice photos, thanks! I can't get over how nice the CHNR looks. :-)

26 May 2018, 08:32 AM	#22
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,171	The CHNR looks like the BLRO's older, wiser brother. It looks more mature but not "old" like some have suggested. I like it. How's the new Jubilee? Do you prefer your WG or the new SS overall?

26 May 2018, 08:39 AM	#25
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	Nice pics, and thanks for confirming the original claim that the black dial was swappable, thought this was a good gesture from Rolex for those who wanted more clear distinction from the SS, I would be tempted.

26 May 2018, 02:52 PM	#27
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	I definitively wouldn’t want to have an almost same looking watch as someone who spent 1/4th the msrp. I vote blue dial. If they discontinue it in 2yrs (as many have said) it will be the new rare. And soon enough the SS Blro will be as common as the Batman is. I am actually eating my words about the new SS gmt. I like it more and more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

26 May 2018, 03:16 PM	#28
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	If I had your BLRO I sure wouldn't want anything else. Although the blue dial would be tempting ld leave it original. I'm thinking down the road that be would be more wise. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

26 May 2018, 03:42 PM	#29
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,364	Your blro is very nice as is. One of my grail pieces. I prefer the blnr to the new ss blro. Honestly the rest of my collection sits because of the blnr. This is one long honeymoon.

26 May 2018, 04:12 PM	#30
dr3ws "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Andrew Location: Australia Watch: 116710BLNR 126334 Posts: 432	I would keep the black dial if I were you, btw I still couldn't see if the lugs on the new GMTs are slimmer

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