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cab56 · 17 March 2015, 05:13 AM

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rolex-Preside...item3f4904291a

Is this real or fake? eBay seller has 1 feedback, so I wouldn't touch it, but it looks convincing with box and papers.

The photo of the movement shows "Rolex" instead of "Montres Rolex."

Fredrik · 17 March 2015, 05:33 AM

The movement looks bad. Like in not looking like a 3156...

MonBK · 17 March 2015, 05:47 AM

It looks terrible

nickb732 · 17 March 2015, 06:07 AM

Junker... look at the hand filled warranty card

rozyd · 17 March 2015, 06:46 AM

Even if it was real, would you trust the seller with just one feedback?

goldfixer21 · 17 March 2015, 06:58 AM

The stainless steel screw in a "gold" link is a pretty good indication it's not genuine..

GarryT · 17 March 2015, 07:04 AM

The eBay page looks pretty 'professional' for someone with no feedback - suggests he has done this before under a different id and had a few negs.

forgedblades · 17 March 2015, 10:11 AM

The bezel looks fishy, the font on the day looks off to me as well. The movement speaks for it's self. One thing that really stands out to me is the laser etched crown is visible in that shot of the dial. Am I incorrect in say it should only be visible with a loop or extreme magnifcation?

Chris1974 · 17 March 2015, 02:56 PM

That's the Asian clone movement. Easy tell is the pink gears are not pink all the way through. You can see the brass color in the gear teeth. Looks like the picture was taken to deliberately hide that.

M3srt · 17 March 2015, 03:52 PM

Why is the 5 and 7 crooked and the 7 is perfectly upright and there's only 1 after the 10... Not 11

crowncollection · 17 March 2015, 07:06 PM

The watch 100% fake, clone movement, band markings are horrible and more, there is no doubt it's fake

Lgear080 · 17 March 2015, 07:55 PM

Man that warranty card is awesome

THC · 17 March 2015, 08:57 PM

Lol warranty card says "waves" ... I think genuines say "wave" dial

Onikage · 17 March 2015, 11:01 PM

It'll look great when the yellow dye comes off.

Chris1974 · 18 March 2015, 12:04 AM

How is it still up? Someone is going to be out 10 grand! Unless of course the highest bid ends up being the seller or his pal.

Chewbacca · 18 March 2015, 12:05 AM

'fishycakes1' is in the wrong business and their jeweler needs to have their license revoked.

you can't sell a $500 car without a vin# but ebay allows this shit to keep going on. A '2' feedback can list a damn folex in the $10k range. WTF.

Ccjacapital · 10 August 2015, 03:22 AM

Wow that watch sold for 18k the good thing is PayPal will hold the funds since he has no feedback. So hopefully who ever bought it gets it checked asap. Also like it was already mentioned that's a very nice page for some one new to eBay .

haven_seeker · 10 August 2015, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfixer21

The stainless steel screw in a "gold" link is a pretty good indication it's not genuine..

Beat me to it. My OQ has solid gold through the link screw. (came with 2 spare links so I could see the inner workings)

hunterp27 · 10 August 2015, 05:10 AM

The buyer is gonna need his 5-hole resleeved. This Steaming turd sold for 18k and now the fun begins between eBay, the seller, Payapal, and the buyer. Huge mess that could all be avoided if there was a better mechanism to handle these things. Frustrating beyond all.

drifter01 · 10 August 2015, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1974

That's the Asian clone movement. Easy tell is the pink gears are not pink all the way through. You can see the brass color in the gear teeth. Looks like the picture was taken to deliberately hide that.

Also, if you look the pinion forf the reverser gear (pink gear) you can see is not jewelled. Never seen a anything newer than an old 17j 1520 like that!

Sub/GMT · 10 August 2015, 09:25 AM

Love that "handwritten" warrantycard

droptopman · 10 August 2015, 09:41 AM

Cheap clone movement among many other issues.

Ccjacapital · 1 September 2015, 06:12 AM

image.jpgThere are a bunch of the fakes going around with the clone movement. You have to be extra careful and look at the details. Some one tried selling me this watch datejust ii it had all the wrong marking but I was surprised when I opened it up to see the clone movement.

drifter01 · 1 September 2015, 06:36 AM

If you look at the balance bridge you can spot them right away.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 1 September 2015, 07:03 AM

Holy Toledo guys its FAKE!

crowncollection · 1 September 2015, 07:23 AM

Fake

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17 March 2015, 06:07 AM	#4
nickb732 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Nicholas Location: UK Posts: 2,630	Junker... look at the hand filled warranty card __________________ Nick

17 March 2015, 07:06 PM	#11
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	The watch 100% fake, clone movement, band markings are horrible and more, there is no doubt it's fake __________________ watches many

17 March 2015, 11:01 PM	#14
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	It'll look great when the yellow dye comes off. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

10 August 2015, 09:25 AM	#21
Sub/GMT "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Europe Watch: The White Gold Sub Posts: 518	Love that "handwritten" warrantycard __________________ Platinum DD 228206 Diamond Baguette Ice Blue Dial - Skydweller 326934 Black Dial Jubilee - Rosé Gold Yacht-Master 126655 Oysterflex - Smurf 116619LB - Sub 126613LB - Sub 124060LN - GMT-Master II 116710LN - DJ 126334 Blue......

10 August 2015, 09:41 AM	#22
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Cheap clone movement among many other issues. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

17 March 2015, 05:33 AM	#2
Fredrik 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,826	The movement looks bad. Like in not looking like a 3156...

17 March 2015, 05:47 AM	#3
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	It looks terrible

17 March 2015, 06:46 AM	#5
rozyd "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Michigan Watch: SD,DD,Exp1,Daytona Posts: 550	Even if it was real, would you trust the seller with just one feedback?

17 March 2015, 06:58 AM	#6
goldfixer21 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 773	The stainless steel screw in a "gold" link is a pretty good indication it's not genuine..

17 March 2015, 07:04 AM	#7
GarryT "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Swindon,UK Posts: 20	The eBay page looks pretty 'professional' for someone with no feedback - suggests he has done this before under a different id and had a few negs.

17 March 2015, 10:11 AM	#8
forgedblades "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Dave Location: Memphis Watch: 16610LV/CokeGMT II Posts: 395	The bezel looks fishy, the font on the day looks off to me as well. The movement speaks for it's self. One thing that really stands out to me is the laser etched crown is visible in that shot of the dial. Am I incorrect in say it should only be visible with a loop or extreme magnifcation?

17 March 2015, 02:56 PM	#9
Chris1974 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: On the water Watch: SS Serti Sub Posts: 144	That's the Asian clone movement. Easy tell is the pink gears are not pink all the way through. You can see the brass color in the gear teeth. Looks like the picture was taken to deliberately hide that.

17 March 2015, 03:52 PM	#10
M3srt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Corpus Christi Posts: 50	Why is the 5 and 7 crooked and the 7 is perfectly upright and there's only 1 after the 10... Not 11

17 March 2015, 07:55 PM	#12
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Man that warranty card is awesome

17 March 2015, 08:57 PM	#13
THC 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 16610M Posts: 10,484	Lol warranty card says "waves" ... I think genuines say "wave" dial

18 March 2015, 12:04 AM	#15
Chris1974 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: On the water Watch: SS Serti Sub Posts: 144	How is it still up? Someone is going to be out 10 grand! Unless of course the highest bid ends up being the seller or his pal.

18 March 2015, 12:05 AM	#16
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	'fishycakes1' is in the wrong business and their jeweler needs to have their license revoked. you can't sell a $500 car without a vin# but ebay allows this shit to keep going on. A '2' feedback can list a damn folex in the $10k range. WTF.

10 August 2015, 03:22 AM	#17
Ccjacapital "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Las vegas Posts: 49	Wow that watch sold for 18k the good thing is PayPal will hold the funds since he has no feedback. So hopefully who ever bought it gets it checked asap. Also like it was already mentioned that's a very nice page for some one new to eBay .

10 August 2015, 05:10 AM	#19
hunterp27 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: JHP Location: Fairview, TX Watch: WG 18039 Day/Date Posts: 789	The buyer is gonna need his 5-hole resleeved. This Steaming turd sold for 18k and now the fun begins between eBay, the seller, Payapal, and the buyer. Huge mess that could all be avoided if there was a better mechanism to handle these things. Frustrating beyond all.

1 September 2015, 06:12 AM	#23
Ccjacapital "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Las vegas Posts: 49	image.jpgThere are a bunch of the fakes going around with the clone movement. You have to be extra careful and look at the details. Some one tried selling me this watch datejust ii it had all the wrong marking but I was surprised when I opened it up to see the clone movement.

1 September 2015, 06:36 AM	#24
drifter01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NC Watch: 5500 Air-King Posts: 633	If you look at the balance bridge you can spot them right away. __________________ Dave Ace of Clubs "Never mind the track. The track is for punks. We are Road People. We are Cafe Racers." - Hunter S. Thompson

1 September 2015, 07:03 AM	#25
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Holy Toledo guys its FAKE! __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

1 September 2015, 07:23 AM	#26
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Fake Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

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