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Old 17 January 2018, 05:43 AM   #1
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Bobs has a Real Daytona Winner for Sale

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-da...23-winner.html

Never seen a real one for sale before (from 2005).
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Old 17 January 2018, 05:55 AM   #2
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If it's real what are we watching out for?
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Old 17 January 2018, 09:14 AM   #3
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Its NOT a real Daytona "24 hour" Le Mans!
Firstly the rare "24 Hour" is ONLY made in SS not TT or gold!
It is a very rare Rolex Daytona 24hr. Rolex has sponsored the Daytona Speedway Races since 1991, and gives class winners a presentation Rolex.

I got NO idea on the provenance to Bob's watch, but its not a "Daytona 24 hour"

So "watch out"
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Old 17 January 2018, 09:45 AM   #4
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:17 AM   #5
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Its NOT a real Daytona "24 hour" Le Mans!
Firstly the rare "24 Hour" is ONLY made in SS not TT or gold!
It is a very rare Rolex Daytona 24hr. Rolex has sponsored the Daytona Speedway Races since 1991, and gives class winners a presentation Rolex.

I got NO idea on the provenance to Bob's watch, but its not a "Daytona 24 hour"

So "watch out"
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Everyone reading your post would have benefited if you spent 5 minutes researching your answer before posting. Your answer is at least partially incorrect. The winner Daytona is not always SS. You are saying Bob’s used wording in its description that it did not. 24 Hour Le Mans is not mentioned. And you are potentially smearing a legitimate seller. Don’t be so hesitant to bash someone. Some of us here are still learning. There is enough bad information on the internet. We shouldn’t have to see bad info here too.
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:22 AM   #6
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Everyone reading your post would have benefited if you spent 5 minutes researching your answer before posting. Your answer is at least partially incorrect. The winner Daytona is not always SS. You are saying Bob’s used wording in its description that it did not. 24 Hour Le Mans is not mentioned. And you are potentially smearing a legitimate seller. Don’t be so hesitant to bash someone. Some of us here are still learning. There is enough bad information on the internet. We shouldn’t have to see bad info here too.
I never bashed Bobs watches NOR have I ever done.

I was just stating as the OP post implied that this watch is not the "rare 24 hour Daytona" model!

I did not state it was not a Rolex or a Rolex Daytona, ONLY that its not the "24 hour Le Mans" model.

And in the past its always been in SS, so on that "recent" change I am now corrected.
But I do believe that the 2005 Le Mans WAS SS!
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:23 AM   #7
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:25 AM   #8
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The watch that Jeff Gordon received when he was a winning co-driver of the Wayne Taylor Racing entry last year was TT.


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Indeed, seems the TT is a recent offering.
And for that I am happy to be corrected
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:28 AM   #9
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Indeed, seems the TT is a recent offering.

And for that I am happy to be corrected

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Just read the article that was posted after I responded. Seems it was mentioned. I thought it was odd that it was a steel bezel model last year. I think this TT thing is a newer phenomenon however. I remember seeing the old “Rolex winner” Daytona’s and they were all SS Daytona’s. My guess is maybe they were moving some slow movers.


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Old 17 January 2018, 10:29 AM   #10
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Just read the article that was posted after I responded. Seems it was mentioned. I thought it was odd that it was a steel bezel model last year. I think this TT thing is a newer phenomenon however. I remember seeing the old “Rolex winner” Daytona’s and they were all SS Daytona’s. My guess is maybe they were moving some slow movers.


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Old 17 January 2018, 06:53 PM   #11
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Indeed, seems the TT is a recent offering.
And for that I am happy to be corrected
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2005 isn't exactly recent.

Rolex started sponsoring the "Championship Rolex Sports Car Series of the Americas" in 2002
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Old 17 January 2018, 06:59 PM   #12
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I did not state it was not a Rolex or a Rolex Daytona, ONLY that its not the "24 hour Le Mans" model.

And in the past its always been in SS, so on that "recent" change I am now corrected.
But I do believe that the 2005 Le Mans WAS SS!
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Where are you seeing any implication that it's a "Le Mans" piece? Clearly it is not. The engraving on the back makes that immediately obvious.
If anything, the OP's post implies that it's a Daytona 24 winning piece, which it isn't either.

Rolex Daytonas have been given out as prizes for specific endurance races (namely the Rolex 24 at Daytona, and the 24hrs of Le Mans) for a very long time.
In addition to those specific race wins (in each class), they are also handed out for the championship wins (in each class) at the end of the season.
The reference has varied amongst the different series' and the classes within each series (Prototype, GT, etc.).

The watch in the OP appears to be the piece given to Craig Stanton for the overall (season) win in the GT class for the Rolex Sports Car Series in 2005.
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Old 17 January 2018, 07:47 PM   #13
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Here you go:

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Old 17 January 2018, 08:05 PM   #14
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2005 isn't exactly recent.

Rolex started sponsoring the "Championship Rolex Sports Car Series of the Americas" in 2002
Exactly
Hence it would have been all SS
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Old 17 January 2018, 08:16 PM   #15
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Its NOT a real Daytona "24 hour" Le Mans!
Firstly the rare "24 Hour" is ONLY made in SS not TT or gold!
It is a very rare Rolex Daytona 24hr. Rolex has sponsored the Daytona Speedway Races since 1991, and gives class winners a presentation Rolex.

I got NO idea on the provenance to Bob's watch, but its not a "Daytona 24 hour"

So "watch out"
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I have to ask again, what are we watching out for?
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Old 17 January 2018, 08:26 PM   #16
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Old 17 January 2018, 09:52 PM   #17
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So does this one have provenance?
Yes. See post #12, and post #13 which confirms it.
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:16 PM   #18
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Exactly
Hence it would have been all SS
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No.
Re-read my first post. The watch is not a Daytona or Le Mans winning piece. If it was, it would say so on the engraving.

Also, you seem to be confusing/conflating "Le Mans" with the " Rolex 24 at Daytona". The former is a 24hr endurance race in Le Mans, France. The latter is a 24hr endurance race in Daytona Beach, Florida, USA.
Rolex Daytonas are handed out to winners of each class at both events. There are multiple drivers per car, and every driver of the winning car gets a watch. There are likely additional pieces for team principals as well.
Then, there are pieces given to overall series champions at the end of the season (such as the piece in question here).
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Old 17 January 2018, 10:20 PM   #19
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Re-read my first post. The watch is not a Daytona or Le Mans winning piece. If it was, it would say so on the engraving.

Also, you seem to be confusing/conflating "Le Mans" with the " Rolex 24 at Daytona". The former is a 24hr endurance race in Le Mans, France. The latter is a 24hr endurance race in Daytona Beach, Florida, USA.
Rolex Daytonas are handed out to winners of each class at both events. There are multiple drivers per car, and every driver of the winning car gets a watch. There are likely additional pieces for team principals as well.
Then, there are pieces given to overall series champions at the end of the season (such as the piece in question here).
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I understand all that.

My post was to reiterate to the OP that this was not the 24 hour version, but something else that I had no idea to its provenance.

I "felt" and "got the impression" (rightly or wrongly) that the OP thought that Bob's watches had one of those rare and heavily counterfeited 24 hour pieces.
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As I say, I was only trying to clarify, this watch was not that version
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Old 7 March 2018, 06:39 AM   #20
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This thread fits here https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=589923

Thanks to user 77T for the lead ;-)
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Old 7 March 2018, 07:01 AM   #21
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Oh wow.

That's like the most faked watch, I've also never seen a real one listed for sale until now.
I'm sure we've all seen many fakes of this model though lol
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Old 7 March 2018, 07:04 AM   #22
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Good find, thanks.
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Old 7 March 2018, 07:41 AM   #23
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Oh wow.

That's like the most faked watch, I've also never seen a real one listed for sale until now.
I'm sure we've all seen many fakes of this model though lol

Which one you mean ?

Never seen a real one listed? what you mean ?
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