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1. Bearing in mind it is illegal to make items that infringe a companies trademark why would a dial refinisher make and then stick on a sub standard Coronet to a supposedly original refinished dial ? 2. If the dial was an original dial why not re apply the original Coronet to it? After all it would be more original refinished than the other option . My overall take is that a big percentage of these dials are not original Rolex base dials that have been refinished but 100% aftermarket . Legally, printing Rolex on an unoriginal dial is trademark infringement as is making the Coronet and using it on a dial . So this refinished tag in many cases is just a smoke screen imho |
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He like the first one so much that he buy one more.
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Very true. I've seen numerous so called Rolex Serti type dials for sale on eBay that were in fact remanufactured dials using an actual used Rolex factory dial with a new face and markings applied. I've no doubt that the party doing the refinishing did so in a way as to CYA against any litigation.
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For someone that professes to be knowledgeable in the watch business, you should know the answer to the question you've asked before hand. As such, I'm truly to the point of believing that you are not as you say you are.
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So you bought a used watch and it had issues, you contacted the seller who told you he was willing to fix it and then you decided against sending it and somehow they suck? Do you understand basic common sense? |
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Rolex burnishes the marker pins to the dial. If the markers aren't removed carefully by an expert, they are damaged. Burnishing new markers also requires specialized expertise. While dial restorers and some dial makers will perform this work expertly, they do so for a dear sum of money. It's faster, cheaper, and easier to chip the old bits off, then glue down new markers. The dial is still an original part. |
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Do not buy from beckertime
I won't, Thanks!
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My question was directed at yourself so my knowledge doesn't come into things , when a rhetorical question is asked . How any watchmaker or expert could tell a genuine Rolex base dial has been used when it is mounted on a watch I don't know which is why I posted this addition to this thread but for some reason you seem to want to defend the practise without any correct logical argument and get slightly personal over it too . Thanks.
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Don't mean to resurrect an old thread but I saw a Rolex Datejust that I like on Beckertime but the pictures they have are files pictures not pictures of the actual watch described in the description. I asked them in two separate emails to see if they can take some pictures of the actual watch and they say they couldn't. Buyers beware.
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Funny they would not comply with your request.
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Yea, I thought that was strange. No reason why they can't take a few pictures, even with their iPhone.
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Bumping an old thread
Another "buyer beware". Been a lurker here for a bit and have been in the market for a platinum dial 16622. Figured my ebay message exchange with beckertime should go here. It starts fine, then goes sour when asking for simple information that all other sellers I've spoken to have given immediately without the "20 questions" game. Enough for me to write about it and forever turn the other way:
------ Your previous message: Hello, I'm looking for a M serial number or newer. Do any of your platinum 16622 meet that? Thanks! beckertime: Thank you for your email. We do not have any M series available...my apologies. Your previous message: Thank you for the response. Which serials (letter) do you have available? beckertime: Thank you for your email. We have early 2000 models available. Your previous message: What counts as early 2000s? I would guess that many of your Rolex buyers would appreciate this specific information over a vague range of year reference. Especially given your reputation. 2006 D OR Z 2005 D 2005 F 2004 F 2003 F 2002 Y 2001 K OR Y 2000 K,000,001 2000 P,000,001 beckertime: Early 2000's is 2000-2003. ------ |
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Lol I’m sorry, but how is that ‘going sour’? Perhaps he has multiple within the 2000-2003 timeframe?
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How dare they, actually answering your question, just who do they think they are?
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Geez, How Old is this Thread? Not Dead Yet?
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I might "Turn Sour" too if you said to me "Especially given your reputation."
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Uuhmm.
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