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Old 29 September 2022, 09:43 AM   #1201
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The guys who get watches from ADs thinking they can flip for thousands of dollars of profit because they look at prices on chrono24 are in for a rude awakening.
My guess is that waiting lists of no-more-hot-references have mainly been skimmed from professional flippers who are well aware of the situation.

Now this new reality is starting to reach the mainstream flippers which is the mass. For sure they will tell their friends. It will have a small snowball effect.

We have to be patient and expect some latency. :)
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Old 30 September 2022, 02:46 AM   #1202
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15450 box and papers for 28k (short 3 links). That’s about retail + tax of the latest price.

It’s happening. Royal oaks going down particularly hard. Retail on many refs soon IMO
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Old 30 September 2022, 03:47 AM   #1203
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:38 AM   #1204
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15450 box and papers for 28k (short 3 links). That’s about retail + tax of the latest price.

It’s happening. Royal oaks going down particularly hard. Retail on many refs soon IMO
It sure is happening!!!
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Old 30 September 2022, 07:59 AM   #1205
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Gotta love this comment on an AP Sales posting.

"So tempting. Gotta see what the market does tmw to see how liquid I am lol."
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Old 30 September 2022, 01:10 PM   #1206
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clean black Daytona, watch + card, $26.3k unsold.
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Old 30 September 2022, 02:00 PM   #1207
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Any more recent moda updates for the 26420 and 26240?
Today, a 41mm 26240 steel black dial and a blue dial currently are sitting at $69,750 and $80,500 respectively. APs are dropping hard.
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Old 30 September 2022, 02:05 PM   #1208
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Today, a 41mm 26240 steel black dial and a blue dial currently are sitting at $69,750 and $80,500 respectively. APs are dropping hard.
Did you miss the silver dial? Bnib at $50k, couldn’t sell, so he’s pulled and tried to relist at $55 and $59 as if everyone is dumb lol

Needless to say, still unsold
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Old 30 September 2022, 02:28 PM   #1209
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Did you miss the silver dial? Bnib at $50k, couldn’t sell, so he’s pulled and tried to relist at $55 and $59 as if everyone is dumb lol

Needless to say, still unsold
I just noticed it now. That’s crazy
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Old 30 September 2022, 02:30 PM   #1210
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Did you miss the silver dial? Bnib at $50k, couldn’t sell, so he’s pulled and tried to relist at $55 and $59 as if everyone is dumb lol

Needless to say, still unsold

It’s a beautiful thing for the community. Especially the ones that want a royal oak at retail. Hopefully it will drive the flippers away for specific models and watches can be obtained by collectors again.


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Old 30 September 2022, 02:35 PM   #1211
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It’s a beautiful thing for the community. Especially the ones that want a royal oak at retail. Hopefully it will drive the flippers away for specific models and watches can be obtained by collectors again.


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Yeah that's what's a punch in the gut, as that's the exact ROC I want, exact color and all. So many were *immediately* flipped, I'm patiently waiting though. Cautiously optimistic I can maybe get one next year as the 50th rotors will also have subsided by then.
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Old 1 October 2022, 07:09 AM   #1212
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Yea show me a nice 5 digit sub or gmt that has dropped in value at all…..they haven’t…..maybe stop going up but not dropped

Rolex explorer ii in nice condition was $12-13k late serial now around $9k


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Old 1 October 2022, 07:21 AM   #1213
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The 5 digit one, 16560?
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Old 1 October 2022, 08:09 AM   #1214
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Today, a 41mm 26240 steel black dial and a blue dial currently are sitting at $69,750 and $80,500 respectively. APs are dropping hard.
Yep. 15500 full set sitting at 38.5k. 30k soon…
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Old 1 October 2022, 08:55 AM   #1215
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Did you miss the silver dial? Bnib at $50k, couldn’t sell, so he’s pulled and tried to relist at $55 and $59 as if everyone is dumb lol

Needless to say, still unsold

What dial color? White?


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Old 1 October 2022, 09:22 AM   #1216
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Yep. 15500 full set sitting at 38.5k. 30k soon…

Ooof.... Getting close! Thank you and dmash for the updates. Sad for my wealth on paper but I don't care since I'm keeping all of mine.

There's a certain amount of schadenfreude, esp for people who ruined their relationship flipping a new Chrono for a few bucks...
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Old 1 October 2022, 10:17 AM   #1217
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Yes.

I'm a Monochrom guy, so the blues are greens are fun on paper and to look at, but I wouldn't like to own.
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Old 5 October 2022, 05:01 AM   #1218
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White Daytona

28.8

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Old 5 October 2022, 05:28 AM   #1219
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28.8

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Old 5 October 2022, 08:01 AM   #1220
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White Daytona

28.8

Wow
Still there. Also seen Black for 26ish.

Pepsi Jubilee w/Card ended at auction for 17.7K

Seemed like a lot of Pepsis were available this weekend.
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Old 5 October 2022, 08:09 AM   #1221
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Several Pepsis the past week, out of now where seemingly. All the way down to $16K.

The "last hoorah"?

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Old 5 October 2022, 08:25 AM   #1222
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Several Pepsis the past week, out of now where seemingly. All the way down to $16K.

The "last hoorah"?
I saw a silly amount of Pepsi listings coming out specifically on Sunday.

Feels like that model is ready for a leg down.

We hit June lows on Friday but then big bounce Mon/Tuesday in the markets 3% each day so not really sure how people are feeling.
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Old 5 October 2022, 10:29 AM   #1223
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Even on this forum they are going for 17-18k and BLNRs are at 16?!?

Rewind 6 months and they were a good 10k higher. Amazing how times have changed
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Old 5 October 2022, 02:26 PM   #1224
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Great thread, it will be interesting to see how prices will change in the next 6 months. Sanity is coming back it seems

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Old 5 October 2022, 10:10 PM   #1225
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Still looking for a blro oyster..
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Old 6 October 2022, 01:20 AM   #1226
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Even on this forum they are going for 17-18k and BLNRs are at 16?!?
Someone know the current buy price (by greys/secondary market dealers)? Which margin do they take in this uncertain market?
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Old 6 October 2022, 03:51 AM   #1227
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Someone know the current buy price (by greys/secondary market dealers)? Which margin do they take in this uncertain market?
From what I hear, many are not buying, and if they do, then at the retail price. Please someone correct me if you had different experience.

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Old 6 October 2022, 04:02 AM   #1228
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From what I hear, many are not buying, and if they do, then at the retail price. Please someone correct me if you had different experience.

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correct. as they'd be catching a falling knife at this point as nothing has stabilized.
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Old 6 October 2022, 05:37 AM   #1229
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15510white 46k and not a single comment. Bnib full set too

Another thing others are overlooking is that Rolex flippers will stay in the game for even a few grand over MSRP because it’s essentially untraceable. AP (happily!) has a better system for tracking flippers since it’s registered to you. Guys aren’t going to burn their AP connection for $5k, has to be much more lucrative than that. These fall much lower I believe it will have a domino effect to *really* dip, as flippers will pass even though there’s technically still money on the table.

At least my 2c.
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Old 6 October 2022, 01:05 PM   #1230
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Someone know the current buy price (by greys/secondary market dealers)? Which margin do they take in this uncertain market?
I think it was in this thread where someone linked a Youtube video from CRM jewelers where the owner is on the phone telling a seller/flipper that he was a buyer at or below MSRP for (previously) popular Rolex models.

Aside from the uncertainty & hassle, you would likely get more selling on the board here, by splitting the difference between MSRP & grey pricing.
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