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GLADIATOR · 25 January 2019, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by watchdawg

Where is this supposed email warning ? It’s been asked for numerous times and not forthcoming. Does it even exist?

Of course it exists.
It appears to me the "experts" and "know-it-alls" - have made their decision.

Its no loss to me - "You can take a horse to the well but you can not make it drink the water"

Anyone genuine and genuinely in need can PM me, and I will send it - but not to the rude, discourteous or arrogant
Best
Adam

CorradoBrit · 25 January 2019, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by watchdawg

Where is this supposed email warning ? It’s been asked for numerous times and not forthcoming. Does it even exist?

How dare you make reasonable requests.

RLX_NY · 25 January 2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

How dare you make reasonable requests.

BTW this quote makes no sense: "Its no loss to me - "You can take a horse to the well but you can not make it drink the water""

We're asking you to show us the "well" so that maybe we can drink the water and see that it exists to learn something of importance and you're getting upset and defensive at our requests and instead just saying don't question you but instead just take your word for it that the "well" exists.

RLX_NY · 25 January 2019, 07:39 AM

Also just pointing out but in this thread you said that they are "flooding" the market, yet in your post #58 where you quoted yourself and thanking another member for praising you, you said "Is it a "flood"? - no maybe not, but our stores have seen at least 6", it's not a flood by your own admission.... So is it or isn't it which is it?

And not for nothing but 6 watches in a city like NY with millions of people is hardly flooding the market.

CorradoBrit · 25 January 2019, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY

And not for nothing but 6 watches in a city like NY with millions of people is hardly flooding the market.

They're multiplying. It was 5 a day or 2 ago.

Knappo 1307 · 25 January 2019, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

They're multiplying. It was 5 a day or 2 ago.

Has anyone seen that email, where genuine movements are flooding the NYC market? I'm guessing we are going to be waiting for a long time.

socalwatchcollector · 25 January 2019, 12:17 PM

Not sure about you guys but I grabbed the popcorn, cigar, and a bottle of scotch.

CorradoBrit · 25 January 2019, 12:23 PM

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J_1964 · 25 January 2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by socalwatchcollector

not sure about you guys but i grabbed the popcorn, cigar, and a bottle of scotch.

+1

Abdullah71601 · 25 January 2019, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Has anyone seen that email, where genuine movements are flooding the NYC market? I'm guessing we are going to be waiting for a long time.

Let it go man. It was an assertion based on a blurb from an organization who is in the business of fear mongering worst case watch stories to promote their authentication service.

Andad · 25 January 2019, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

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A spec?

Andad · 25 January 2019, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Let it go man. It was an assertion based on a blurb from an organization who is in the business of fear mongering worst case watch stories to promote their authentication service.

Abdullah71601 · 25 January 2019, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

I see you've taken me off your ignore list Eddie. Please put me back.

Johny · 26 January 2019, 03:56 AM

I saw a for sale ad fairly recently offering new movements. I think that the seller was from Italy. Might have been on VRF or chrono24.

uncleluck · 26 January 2019, 07:33 AM

Having a quick google for ‘watch csa’ it seems their business is making money by authenticating watches for people.

Goes a fair way to explain why they would send out an emergency press release on these hard to authenticate models “flooding the market” I guess. Call me an old sceptic.

I think the flooding bit is somewhat OTT. If they are genuine movements they’re worth a lot of money themselves and it doesn’t make a lot of sense where they would of come from. Maybe stolen watches re-cased I guess.

The thought of a flood of genuine movements coming out the back door at rolex seems ridiculous.

Would love to see some pics of the flood, be pretty interesting.

ArtNouveau · 26 January 2019, 07:50 AM

Show Us The Email!

What a trainwreck of a thread.

nch209 · 28 January 2019, 07:33 PM

Seems like the OP got this figured out, but also Finks is a reputable jeweler here and may have been able to give insight to if they sold it- numbers, ect. Not trying to get in the middle of the above, and while I am no expert, I can tell you the Washington DC area has an abundance of fakes that look pretty darn good... and for some reason a great number of explorer 42mm that look close, even when opening up. A brisk loop starts to point out things, but packaged with good paperwork and legit boxes, they could trick someone I bet...

Stay safe and buy smart out there folks!

Gtecko · 29 January 2019, 12:37 AM

just grabbed some popcorn here

asiparks · 29 January 2019, 11:16 AM

The CSA email included what serial number; for the movement or the watch ?
Was it a serial number or serial numbers ?
All the good fakes I see out here have running random serials on the rehaut, so I can't understand how the CSA could predict those... If it's from genuine movements, how is that possible to know which ones will be turning up ? You said you had seen 5 so far ?
It sounds like there is one serial number and it being used on all the very high quality copies of the movement.
Don't believe for a second that they're genuine movements.

toxicavenger · 24 February 2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Even opening it not a guarantee.
The latest fakes have genuine movements!
A

Hahaha this guy is all over the board with his comments. So he says you can get "real" movements but not real "sapphire LEC's without a parts account".

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Simply incorrect
Rolex only supply to their own service centers and approved repairers.
Who have to account for each one.

toxicavenger · 24 February 2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

He can't provide it because it doesn't exist.
Adam has been doing this for years. Many times a thread has been started asking if their watch is fake and many times he jumps right in and states there are many things that have him concerned or just blatantly states it's fake. When the OP will ask what looks incorrect, he takes the stance of "we don't discuss fakes on here".Then a true expert will come on and state everything looks correct and he then back tracks. Or my favorite, he will wait until a true expert comes on and comments the watch looks good and then will immediately follow behind the expert and confirm what the expert has said. He takes a defiant tone, at times because he has nothing to back his facts up. The true experts will explain what is wrong, and actually make it a learning moment unless it's totally obvious it is a fake.
Adam, just like you have told people in the past you need to take a step back and tone it down. People don't have the time to just listen to smoke being blown, just like you have stated you don't have the time to report obvious fakes on eBay....

Great post. That dude is a quack for sure, no two ways about it. He just blurts out crap and then runs away.

cht · 25 February 2019, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

I fixed that for you.

On a serious note, you are so far off the mark most of the time regarding authenticity it’s a joke.

There are an unbelievable amount threads were you’ve cried fake or doesn’t look right when it’s clear to anyone who knows what they’re looking at that the watch in question is fine.

I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this.

Though this is off topic, as most of this thread, I have to agree here.

Adam, the issue here really is you're credibility is shot bud, you did that to yourself.

I remember you because you were the guy who said this thinking this was REAL!

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Strange
I think it may be genuine.
Dirty but real.
Would need better dial photo to confirm, but I am swaying to real.
A

aa909 · 25 February 2019, 04:26 AM

Dude post the email or STFU.

Each Rolex movement has a unique serial number, so there would have to be a spreadsheet of serial numbers accompanying this supposed email to account for a “flooding” of the NYC market.

214270Explorer · 25 February 2019, 05:56 AM

JDC222 · 26 February 2019, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Of course it exists.

It appears to me the "experts" and "know-it-alls" - have made their decision.

Its no loss to me - "You can take a horse to the well but you can not make it drink the water"

Anyone genuine and genuinely in need can PM me, and I will send it - but not to the rude, discourteous or arrogant

Best

Adam

Before you use the word “FACT” again, you should check the definition.

You have been asked to post the EMAIL multiple times and you have not. It is very apparent that you do NOT have the EMAIL that you have spoken about.

The main thing that I have learned from this thread, is not to EVER deal with you.

GLADIATOR · 26 February 2019, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDC222

Before you use the word “FACT” again, you should check the definition.

You have been asked to post the EMAIL multiple times and you have not. It is very apparent that you do NOT have the EMAIL that you have spoken about.

The main thing that I have learned from this thread, is not to EVER deal with you.

Of course I have the mail!

But as some stated they care not.
If you want a copy contact CSA.
I am not obliged to help incorrigible people.

and I would greatly appreciate YOU not dealing with ME!

JDC222 · 26 February 2019, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Of course I have the mail!

But as some stated they care not.

If you want a copy contact CSA.

I am not obliged to help incorrigible people.

and I would greatly appreciate YOU not dealing with ME!

LoL...then what are you doing here?

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26 January 2019, 03:56 AM	#74
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	I saw a for sale ad fairly recently offering new movements. I think that the seller was from Italy. Might have been on VRF or chrono24. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

28 January 2019, 07:33 PM	#77
nch209 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Nathan Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,775	Seems like the OP got this figured out, but also Finks is a reputable jeweler here and may have been able to give insight to if they sold it- numbers, ect. Not trying to get in the middle of the above, and while I am no expert, I can tell you the Washington DC area has an abundance of fakes that look pretty darn good... and for some reason a great number of explorer 42mm that look close, even when opening up. A brisk loop starts to point out things, but packaged with good paperwork and legit boxes, they could trick someone I bet... Stay safe and buy smart out there folks! __________________ nch209

29 January 2019, 11:16 AM	#79
asiparks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, OR Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 1,884	The CSA email included what serial number; for the movement or the watch ? Was it a serial number or serial numbers ? All the good fakes I see out here have running random serials on the rehaut, so I can't understand how the CSA could predict those... If it's from genuine movements, how is that possible to know which ones will be turning up ? You said you had seen 5 so far ? It sounds like there is one serial number and it being used on all the very high quality copies of the movement. Don't believe for a second that they're genuine movements. __________________ Eagels may soar, but weasels are seldom sucked into jet engines...

25 February 2019, 05:56 AM	#84
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	__________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

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25 January 2019, 07:39 AM	#64
RLX_NY "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 210	Also just pointing out but in this thread you said that they are "flooding" the market, yet in your post #58 where you quoted yourself and thanking another member for praising you, you said "Is it a "flood"? - no maybe not, but our stores have seen at least 6", it's not a flood by your own admission.... So is it or isn't it which is it? And not for nothing but 6 watches in a city like NY with millions of people is hardly flooding the market.

25 January 2019, 12:17 PM	#67
socalwatchcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: John Location: newport beach Watch: Pateks Plural Posts: 1,621	Not sure about you guys but I grabbed the popcorn, cigar, and a bottle of scotch.

25 January 2019, 12:23 PM	#68
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	.

26 January 2019, 07:33 AM	#75
uncleluck "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: England Posts: 518	Having a quick google for ‘watch csa’ it seems their business is making money by authenticating watches for people. Goes a fair way to explain why they would send out an emergency press release on these hard to authenticate models “flooding the market” I guess. Call me an old sceptic. I think the flooding bit is somewhat OTT. If they are genuine movements they’re worth a lot of money themselves and it doesn’t make a lot of sense where they would of come from. Maybe stolen watches re-cased I guess. The thought of a flood of genuine movements coming out the back door at rolex seems ridiculous. Would love to see some pics of the flood, be pretty interesting.

26 January 2019, 07:50 AM	#76
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 4,947	Show Us The Email! What a trainwreck of a thread.

29 January 2019, 12:37 AM	#78
Gtecko "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Halifax Posts: 518	just grabbed some popcorn here

25 February 2019, 04:26 AM	#83
aa909 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 530	Dude post the email or STFU. Each Rolex movement has a unique serial number, so there would have to be a spreadsheet of serial numbers accompanying this supposed email to account for a “flooding” of the NYC market.

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