15202 vs 15450

[Watch Admirer]

Will this price increase for jumbo be on the red gold model too?


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[benlee]

Originally Posted by vacano

Hello AP lovers,

I am a fan of the 15202ST despite not having tried one on the wrist, however I am wondering if the more modern alternative 15450 is a better option to purchase. The case proportions of the 15450 are very close to the classic 39mm 15202 but with the added benefits of the 3120 in-house movement, added power reserve and lower price point.

I would like to own an AP Royal Oak at some point so would love to hear your thoughts. I have tried on the 15400ST but the size is too big for me so my options are 15202 or 15450.

Thanks!

I find the 15450 often wears too small at 37mm even though I only have a 6.75" wrist. The 39mm is still the most ideal size. Another problem with the 15450 is that it actually come across as "thicker" to me because the smaller diameter exaggerates the thickness of the case.

Originally Posted by AK797

If you like the 15202 you better buy it soon as looks like the Nautilus is having a 20% price rise and very likely the 202 will follow suit and maybe the others too.

Might be too late. Unless OP is lucky, he will need to wait list and price could be adjusted up before he can get one. I guess that makes the 15202IP a bargain as well if they don't adjust the price.

[edo]

Proportion on 15450 is more like 42mm ROO... and I love the RO to look like RO :)

[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by benlee

I find the 15450 often wears too small at 37mm even though I only have a 6.75" wrist. The 39mm is still the most ideal size. Another problem with the 15450 is that it actually come across as "thicker" to me because the smaller diameter exaggerates the thickness of the case.

Completely agree re: the 15450. Too thick for the diameter of the bezel. However, the movement is much better sized to the case, so there is that!

[Billfav]

As noted it all comes down to wrist size, wrist shape and personal taste. My wrist is 6.75". I had tried a 15300 and it fit well. At the time when they were at the AP boutiques I was not in a position to buy. Then the 15400 came out and when I finally was in a position to purchase it was WAY too big. Its flat shape swam on my wrist. I ended up purchasing the 15450 and could not be happier how it wears on my wrist. I have no problem wearing my 40mm Subs or Sea Dweller but the 15400 just looked goofy on my wrist. So I disagree with those that say the 15450 wears small and thick.

[Token74]

I love the 15202 and am currently considering getting one. But...the 15450 works very well for me. I have two and for smart wear, they are a great fit. I have taken pictures so that you can compare it to the Sea Dweller, the Daytona, and a Speedmaster Reduced.




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[subtona]

Imho, It is a must to try on the 202 before you decide.

Proportions between the two may be similar and may be close but in this case a small difference can be quite big.

I very much like the historic movement of the 202.

[raymondswong]

15450 looks better on my wrist. 6.5in wrist here

[APRolexguy]

if only the 15450 was thinner. the sweeping seconds hand makes me like it more than 15202.

[drhr]

Went with the fit for my 6.5 inch wrist. Started with the Jumbo, was ok because of its thinness but still a tad large, recuctantly moved it out. The 15450 fits me perfect as is, any thinner and it'd start wearing too small, ironic as that would be . . .

[GB-man]

Felt obliged to share this

[tonupbklyn]

sharing too.
but coincidentally contemplating a similar dilemma.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

sharing too.

but coincidentally contemplating a similar dilemma.

What’s your dilemma? You feel it’s too big? Looks fine from here.

[drhr]

No matter the size, they're all gorgeous . . .

[tonupbklyn]

Originally Posted by GB-man

What’s your dilemma? You feel it’s too big? Looks fine from here.

completely agree.
but another model i have in mind (likely incoming) and the 5712 are too much overlaps.

the legendary status and sustained value of the jumbo is also a big part of the dilemma.

not to mention my wallet couldn't possibly sustain all 3.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

completely agree.
but another model i have in mind (likely incoming) and the 5712 are too much overlaps.

the legendary status and sustained value of the jumbo is also a big part of the dilemma.

not to mention my wallet couldn't possibly sustain all 3.

So you have a 5711 on the way

Regardless you have one of those good problems.

[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by AK797

If you like the 15202 you better buy it soon as looks like the Nautilus is having a 20% price rise and very likely the 202 will follow suit and maybe the others too.

Agree

[mbalmz]

probably a function of the proportions but I love the 15202 and really wasn't into the 15450. I generally like and have no issue with 36mm watches but the 15450 felt very too small. maybe it's the integrated bracelet and the look of it but a RO that size felt very jewelry-ish.

[laurentparmentier]

15202 is the only modern AP I would buy

[tonupbklyn]

Originally Posted by GB-man

So you have a 5711 on the way

i wish!

[SpeedyTuomas]

Originally Posted by laurentparmentier

15202 is the only modern AP I would buy

I agree 100%.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

i wish!

5712 and 202 are pretty different, what's the incoming?

[tonupbklyn]

Originally Posted by AK797

5712 and 202 are pretty different, what's the incoming?

they are technically different, but in terms of occasion+wear, they do 'compete'... for me, at least.

(potential) incoming...

[vacano]

Originally Posted by benlee

I find the 15450 often wears too small at 37mm even though I only have a 6.75" wrist. The 39mm is still the most ideal size. Another problem with the 15450 is that it actually come across as "thicker" to me because the smaller diameter exaggerates the thickness of the case.




Might be too late. Unless OP is lucky, he will need to wait list and price could be adjusted up before he can get one. I guess that makes the 15202IP a bargain as well if they don't adjust the price.

I am on a wait list for the 15450 but not the 15202. I am based in London and have been told to contact/visit a boutique for the 15202. I think my nearest one is Paris. It appears that London retailers do not have this model available anymore.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by vacano

I am on a wait list for the 15450 but not the 15202. I am based in London and have been told to contact/visit a boutique for the 15202. I think my nearest one is Paris. It appears that London retailers do not have this model available anymore.

You need to go to the AP service center. Apparently it is in some sketchy alley

A friend was offered one by them just a month or two ago.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You need to go to the AP service center. Apparently it is in some sketchy alley

A friend was offered one by them just a month or two ago.

yep it is. Its the "lounge" technically. Its an appointment only boutique. That is where you need to go in the UK to get any boutique only model as well as most other hard-ish to get AP's.

Its in the alley near the Breitling boutique. Take a left at Breitling, a right on Avery Row, a left at watchfinder and you are there.


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[vacano]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

yep it is. Its the "lounge" technically. Its an appointment only boutique. That is where you need to go in the UK to get any boutique only model as well as most other hard-ish to get AP's.

Its in the alley near the Breitling boutique. Take a left at Breitling, a right on Avery Row, a left at watchfinder and you are there.

Thanks for the info, this is good to know

[scuba77]

Originally Posted by vacano

Thanks for the info, this is good to know

I rather go boutique in Geneva , you get the 15202 much quicker. The service is great and best of all you save money unless you claiming back UK VAT.
Better freebies too.... ROO Desk Clock vs Shoe Polishing Kit . Mind you I got good service in Dec in London in that I was able to get appointment at very short notice !

[vacano]

So I tried on the 15450 but unfortunately it’s a non-starter for me. The dial looks too small on my wrist plus the bracket with full links is tight on the wrist. I didn’t take a picture of the 15450 but I did try on a 15400 and a 26120 (39mm dual time) and took pictures of those.

Even though the 41mm fits my wrist it feels slightly larger than I would have liked -comparing it to the BLNR which is a perfect fit for me. I definitely prefer the 39mm size case.

With this in mind I would have to pick the 15202 over the 15450 despite the modern in-house movement and features. As discussed it really does depend on how comfortable it feels on the wrist, and the 39mm is just right for me.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by vacano

So I tried on the 15450 but unfortunately it’s a non-starter for me. The dial looks too small on my wrist plus the bracket with full links is tight on the wrist. I didn’t take a picture of the 15450 but I did try on a 15400 and a 26120 (39mm dual time) and took pictures of those.

Even though the 41mm fits my wrist it feels slightly larger than I would have liked -comparing it to the BLNR which is a perfect fit for me. I definitely prefer the 39mm size case.

With this in mind I would have to pick the 15202 over the 15450 despite the modern in-house movement and features. As discussed it really does depend on how comfortable it feels on the wrist, and the 39mm is just right for me.

Also have the 15300 at 39mm but used.