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Rural1 · 4 December 2019, 04:41 PM

I have owned this watch since 2009-2010, it was purchased from a second hand store.
I'm unsure of its originality so i'm seeking advice from persons with watch experience.
Your feedback is extremely welcome. I'd like to know if it's worth further exploration to determine if it is genuine.

DETAILS: It's missing the (cyclops) and also the Rolex symbol/badge on the clasp join, although there is black scuff marks to possibly say it was once in place. I notice the bezel is off center. It feels quite weighty and has a smooth continuous rotating second hand.

This is what I've found to be a match online:

Rolex DateJust 18K President Diamond Dial And Bezel Midsize Ladies Watch

Ref# 68258
SKU - R0226193A

Kind regards, Ashlea

Haywood_Milton · 4 December 2019, 08:25 PM

Dear me! Thats a bad fake.

What did you pay? What was the store? How did they describe it?

ravnwood · 4 December 2019, 11:47 PM

Not sure if it's fake or not. I googled that reference number and found several examples with the bezel aligned differently.

My red flags are the lack of cyclops and the knurling on the case back being seemingly out of place.

watchnut100 · 4 December 2019, 11:58 PM

Fake

Zakalwe · 5 December 2019, 12:40 AM

Was the second hand store owned by your grandfather by any chance?

crowncollection · 5 December 2019, 06:46 AM

Take it back it’s fake

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CorradoBrit · 5 December 2019, 09:50 AM

Yikes, whata disaster

123Blueface · 5 December 2019, 10:26 AM

Horrible fake.

Rural1 · 5 December 2019, 06:35 PM

Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?

watchnut100 · 5 December 2019, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural1

Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?

Serious? Go into a shop and look and feel a real one, that is Chinese junk.

circles · 5 December 2019, 10:58 PM

You've owned this watch since 2009? For 10 years you've been wearing a fake watch. I'd be embarrassed about that.

GLADIATOR · 8 December 2019, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circles

You've owned this watch since 2009? For 10 years you've been wearing a fake watch. I'd be embarrassed about that.

Maybe you would, but the OP, is not an expert like you, nor are millions of others.
They come here for help, not to be put down.

Lets act politely
A

circles · 8 December 2019, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Maybe you would, but the OP, is not an expert like you, nor are millions of others.
They come here for help, not to be put down.

Lets act politely
A

No need to scold me Adam.....The OP knew there was a problem or they wouldn't have said they had owned it for TEN years and just now want to know if it is fake.

G@tor B@it · 8 December 2019, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Maybe you would, but the OP, is not an expert like you, nor are millions of others.
They come here for help, not to be put down.

Lets act politely
A

Thank you Gladiator. I'm a recently new member... really 0 experience in watches. I'm in the early stages of buying my first Rolex... meaning I'm here to learn. Initially I thought I hit the jackpot with this site and all the learning I could do. But the more I read, it seems like most of it is egotistical members insulting those who are trying to learn.... I appreciate you as a moderator trying to bring the site back to being educational.

beshannon · 5 December 2019, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural1

This is what I've found to be a match online:

Rolex DateJust 18K President Diamond Dial And Bezel Midsize Ladies Watch

Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?

If you actually looked for an image online and compared the two you would not be asking but I suspect you wont return to this thread.

CorradoBrit · 6 December 2019, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural1

Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?

TRF is not an authentication service.

GGGMT · 7 December 2019, 11:49 AM

It looks good!

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Robtayham · 7 December 2019, 12:08 PM

Can you provide a better photo of the black scuff? Rolex uses a special formula for the black scuff. The photo would help authenticate the watch.

GGGMT · 7 December 2019, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robtayham

Can you provide a better photo of the black scuff? Rolex uses a special formula for the black scuff. The photo would help authenticate the watch.

Still thinking maybe this watch isn’t the worst fake in the history of fakes?

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Chewbacca · 7 December 2019, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural1

I have owned this watch since 2009-2010, it was purchased from a second hand store.
I'm unsure of its originality so i'm seeking advice from persons with watch experience.
Your feedback is extremely welcome. I'd like to know if it's worth further exploration to determine if it is genuine.

DETAILS: It's missing the (cyclops) and also the Rolex symbol/badge on the clasp join, although there is black scuff marks to possibly say it was once in place. I notice the bezel is off center. It feels quite weighty and has a smooth continuous rotating second hand.

This is what I've found to be a match online:

Rolex DateJust 18K President Diamond Dial And Bezel Midsize Ladies Watch

Ref# 68258
SKU - R0226193A

Kind regards, Ashlea

Please tell us where this info came from.

In all seriousness, its a fake as others said.

CorradoBrit · 7 December 2019, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Please tell us where this info came from.

Grandad said so

Rural1 · 22 January 2020, 02:45 PM

Back again, still not satisfied it's a fake. I had done a huge amount of research before i come to the forums. There's only so much you can research until you just need someone with real life experience. I am genuine, although I do understand why some of you have doubts. I have looked in supposedly trusted online stores such as chrono24 and bobswatches, found some similar watches with very close or the same weight range (roughly 61 grams) if that matters? Going to pull it out again today and hopefully get someone to remove the bracelet so i can check for serial numbers. If it's worth a link to some better photos, since these do it no justice. Let me know. Cheers

antrolexsub · 23 January 2020, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural1

Back again, still not satisfied it's a fake. I had done a huge amount of research before i come to the forums. There's only so much you can research until you just need someone with real life experience. I am genuine, although I do understand why some of you have doubts. I have looked in supposedly trusted online stores such as chrono24 and bobswatches, found some similar watches with very close or the same weight range (roughly 61 grams) if that matters? Going to pull it out again today and hopefully get someone to remove the bracelet so i can check for serial numbers. If it's worth a link to some better photos, since these do it no justice. Let me know. Cheers

FFS it’s a fake and a crap one at that. A full gold mid size Datejust weighs significantly more than 61g.

GolfJunkie · 23 January 2020, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural1

Back again, still not satisfied it's a fake. I had done a huge amount of research before i come to the forums. There's only so much you can research until you just need someone with real life experience. I am genuine, although I do understand why some of you have doubts. I have looked in supposedly trusted online stores such as chrono24 and bobswatches, found some similar watches with very close or the same weight range (roughly 61 grams) if that matters? Going to pull it out again today and hopefully get someone to remove the bracelet so i can check for serial numbers. If it's worth a link to some better photos, since these do it no justice. Let me know. Cheers

It's a terrible fake.

That's all you need to know

CorradoBrit · 23 January 2020, 01:45 AM

Beggars belief. Wake up OP. See Post #2. That is all you need to know.

5 December 2019, 12:40 AM	#5
Zakalwe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Sal Location: London Posts: 2,496	Was the second hand store owned by your grandfather by any chance? __________________ “Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

5 December 2019, 06:46 AM	#6
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Take it back it’s fake Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

5 December 2019, 10:26 AM	#8
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 4,939	Horrible fake. __________________ Rolex 228235 DD40 Olive, 126710BLRO, 116710BLNR, 116613LB, 116500LN White, 126610LN, 116500LN Black, 126610LV, 116610LV Breitling Navitimer 01, Cartier Santos Large

4 December 2019, 08:25 PM	#2
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	Dear me! Thats a bad fake. What did you pay? What was the store? How did they describe it? __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

4 December 2019, 11:47 PM	#3
ravnwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Virginia Posts: 7	Not sure if it's fake or not. I googled that reference number and found several examples with the bezel aligned differently. My red flags are the lack of cyclops and the knurling on the case back being seemingly out of place.

4 December 2019, 11:58 PM	#4
watchnut100 SCUMBAG Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: uk Posts: 341	Fake

5 December 2019, 09:50 AM	#7
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Yikes, whata disaster

5 December 2019, 06:35 PM	#9
Rural1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: VIC Australia Posts: 3	Thanks, appreciate the feedback. Please tell me how you can tell it's fake?

5 December 2019, 10:58 PM	#11
circles "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: GMT-6 Posts: 185	You've owned this watch since 2009? For 10 years you've been wearing a fake watch. I'd be embarrassed about that.

7 December 2019, 11:49 AM	#17
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,063	It looks good! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 December 2019, 12:08 PM	#18
Robtayham "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 532	Can you provide a better photo of the black scuff? Rolex uses a special formula for the black scuff. The photo would help authenticate the watch.

22 January 2020, 02:45 PM	#22
Rural1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: VIC Australia Posts: 3	Back again, still not satisfied it's a fake. I had done a huge amount of research before i come to the forums. There's only so much you can research until you just need someone with real life experience. I am genuine, although I do understand why some of you have doubts. I have looked in supposedly trusted online stores such as chrono24 and bobswatches, found some similar watches with very close or the same weight range (roughly 61 grams) if that matters? Going to pull it out again today and hopefully get someone to remove the bracelet so i can check for serial numbers. If it's worth a link to some better photos, since these do it no justice. Let me know. Cheers

23 January 2020, 01:45 AM	#25
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Beggars belief. Wake up OP. See Post #2. That is all you need to know.

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