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Old 18 November 2019, 10:04 PM   #1
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Anyone have a black ceramic RO PC?

As per title, any owners of the RO PC in black ceramic? Either version. How do you rate it?

Wrist pics please.

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Old 19 November 2019, 01:15 AM   #2
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Black ceramic ROs are prob the hottest ROs right now.
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Old 19 November 2019, 07:13 AM   #3
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Old 19 November 2019, 07:36 AM   #4
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Old 19 November 2019, 07:37 AM   #5
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This ceramic perpetual belongs to a very good friend of mine, he has this and the Patek nautilus perpetual. Between the 2 I’d take the AP as I feel it has more wrist presence and I really love the dial layout on all the AP perpetual that I’ve seen. This model also comes with a very nice leather winder which I different to the cubik winders that AP give as gifts.


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Old 19 November 2019, 07:57 AM   #6
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It’s a stunning watch.
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Old 19 November 2019, 08:46 AM   #7
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Old 19 November 2019, 05:45 PM   #8
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Old 19 November 2019, 05:57 PM   #9
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Black ceramic ROs are prob the hottest ROs right now.
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This ceramic perpetual belongs to a very good friend of mine, he has this and the Patek nautilus perpetual. Between the 2 I’d take the AP as I feel it has more wrist presence and I really love the dial layout on all the AP perpetual that I’ve seen. This model also comes with a very nice leather winder which I different to the cubik winders that AP give as gifts.


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Amazing. Looks so good. I've only ever seen one out in the wild that too from a distance and it was like a black hole. Sucked me and everyone around it right in.

What are everyone's thoughts on the original vs the new openwork.

Personally I think I prefer the openwork, but the original is also very nice and has a very....strictly business feel about it. All black everything.

Now getting one. That is another story. Fingers crossed.
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Old 20 November 2019, 12:33 AM   #10
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Easily.





Amazing. Looks so good. I've only ever seen one out in the wild that too from a distance and it was like a black hole. Sucked me and everyone around it right in.

What are everyone's thoughts on the original vs the new openwork.

Personally I think I prefer the openwork, but the original is also very nice and has a very....strictly business feel about it. All black everything.

Now getting one. That is another story. Fingers crossed.
The openwork is amazing but I prefer the original. I think the openwork is a little too busy.
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Old 20 November 2019, 02:05 AM   #11
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Openwork all day but that is a watch even vvip are sweating to source. I would be ecstatic with either.
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Old 20 November 2019, 03:22 AM   #12
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Old 20 November 2019, 06:28 AM   #13
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This ceramic perpetual belongs to a very good friend of mine, he has this and the Patek nautilus perpetual. Between the 2 I’d take the AP as I feel it has more wrist presence and I really love the dial layout on all the AP perpetual that I’ve seen. This model also comes with a very nice leather winder which I different to the cubik winders that AP give as gifts.


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That is an incredible pair to have, lucky man.
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Old 20 November 2019, 09:47 AM   #14
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I have one as well, easily one of my favorite watches, and ironically one of the most practical given it's scratch resistant properties...love it!
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Old 20 November 2019, 10:14 AM   #15
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The openwork is amazing but I prefer the original. I think the openwork is a little too busy.
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Openwork all day but that is a watch even vvip are sweating to source. I would be ecstatic with either.
Both great points.

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I have one as well, easily one of my favorite watches, and ironically one of the most practical given it's scratch resistant properties...love it!
It's a great material isn't it?
If you get a chance please share some pics.
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Old 20 November 2019, 11:08 AM   #16
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what are secondary values now? with the openworked version out...
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Old 21 November 2019, 12:27 AM   #17
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what are secondary values now? with the openworked version out...
Holding firm trading at approx 115k usd to about 130k. Don't think the impact will be major as both serials are low production.

Curious to see what the openwork is selling for grey if anyone is in the know. Or if anyone wants to guess what it will sell for over MSRP...
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Old 21 November 2019, 01:10 AM   #18
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Holding firm trading at approx 115k usd to about 130k. Don't think the impact will be major as both serials are low production.

Curious to see what the openwork is selling for grey if anyone is in the know. Or if anyone wants to guess what it will sell for over MSRP...
I believe max over at the keystone already brought one to market. I forget what they were asking but in excess of 200k. I imagine this one will stay high because of a few observations.

1) According to those in the know (aka Roger lol) production will be very tight. The boutique told me 50 examples but that was refuted by others here.

2) Lets be honest there isn't really anything to complain about on this watch.

3) I think even once the AP crowd is fulfilled the secondary will be propped up by RM collectors. That is just my gut feeling given the execution and aesthetics.
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Old 21 November 2019, 01:28 AM   #19
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I believe max over at the keystone already brought one to market. I forget what they were asking but in excess of 200k. I imagine this one will stay high because of a few observations.

1) According to those in the know (aka Roger lol) production will be very tight. The boutique told me 50 examples but that was refuted by others here.

2) Lets be honest there isn't really anything to complain about on this watch.

3) I think even once the AP crowd is fulfilled the secondary will be propped up by RM collectors. That is just my gut feeling given the execution and aesthetics.
Thanks for the input. So I'd say north of low 200s for now. Will probably hold, maybe go up further as non WIS catch wind of its existence lol?

Great point on the RM factor, this is right up there.
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Thanks for the input. So I'd say north of low 200s for now. Will probably hold, maybe go up further as non WIS catch wind of its existence lol?

Great point on the RM factor, this is right up there.
My memory is crap. That was the RD2 sold by keystone. Looks like a dealer in HK claims to have one for 246k but stock photos.
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It's a great material isn't it?
If you get a chance please share some pics.
Here is mine (taken close to when I got it)

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Old 21 November 2019, 10:56 AM   #22
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Here is mine (taken close to when I got it)

What a watch.
Very nice. Thank you for sharing.
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Old 21 November 2019, 02:49 PM   #23
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This whole VVIP nonsense taints my enjoyment of collecting a particular brand.
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Old 23 November 2019, 12:04 AM   #24
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This whole VVIP nonsense taints my enjoyment of collecting a particular brand.
Would be nice if they just produced a lot lol.
VVIPs will still flip them though.
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Old 26 November 2019, 10:54 PM   #26
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I just met a young man who was wearing his and he kindly let me inspect it in detail. I took a couple of very bad pics. It’s pretty incredible IRL.

Unrelated to that experience I also have a couple of pics of the white PC ceramic.

The white was pretty stunning but possibly too white.
However, given my penchant for mixing things up, a zebra version would be amazing, black, white contrasted with alternating black/white links and a white bezel on black case or visa versa.
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Old 26 November 2019, 11:02 PM   #27
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Wow the ceramic skeleton is incredible.


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It really is incredible, however, it’s very ‘busy’ IRL, great to while a way hours in the evening with a loupe, otherwise though the details don’t immediately pop. It’s more like artwork that take time to appreciate.


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Old 26 November 2019, 11:22 PM   #29
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Absolutely stunning. Thanks for sharing the pics.
It does look a little busy in those pics...but it is beautiful to look at nonetheless.
The original has a certain simplicity and charm about it... The openworked has more of a wow factor.

Both are great in the end. Lol
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