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Nick M · 13 July 2016, 01:17 AM

Hey all,

I've been searching for a gift for my father and came across a piece that could fit the bill.

I need to request additional photos from the seller but wanted to get your thoughts on condition.

Do you think this is over-polished for a mid-80's watch? I'm sure it needed touch-ups along the way, but from what you can tell has it been over done?

The lugs seem ok to me but the bezel looks like it's seen better days. I don't have any vintage pieces so I don't have a lot of hands on experience here.

jdmi32 · 13 July 2016, 01:20 AM

To me that watch has been over polished. Lugs are thin and the crown guards are just nubs. I'd keep searching.

Michael M. · 13 July 2016, 01:21 AM

Case has been lightly polished in the past, but I would not by any means consider it to be over-polished. Bezel looks fine as well. Overall it's a great example, especially considering it is nearly 30 years old.

Black Bay Dan · 13 July 2016, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmi32

To me that watch has been over polished. Lugs are thin and the crown guards are just nubs. I'd keep searching.

I must be looking at a different watch as the lugs and crown guards look fine to me!

Dan

MonBK · 13 July 2016, 01:45 AM

Looks ok to me.

locutus49 · 13 July 2016, 01:59 AM

Looks okay to me given the age.

jdmi32 · 13 July 2016, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air King Dan

I must be looking at a different watch as the lugs and crown guards look fine to me!

Dan

Everyone's standard is different and it seems that this watch looks fine to others. But rounded crown guards would bug me. Below are pics (borrowed from HQMilton) of a 16803 with a bit less polishing.

Nick M · 13 July 2016, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmi32

Everyone's standard is different and it seems that this watch looks fine to others. But rounded crown guards would bug me. Below are pics (borrowed from HQMilton) of a 16803 with a bit less polishing.

It's funny that you grabbed that photo, I was referencing the same ones from HQMilton when doing a comparison myself.

The one I posted is definitely more polished but I really think some of what I'm seeing is lighting/reflection.

Nick M · 13 July 2016, 02:20 AM

I just noticed this and it has me scratching my head a bit...

"RS4" bracelet code? Seems odd on an 8,xxx,xxx serial number case, no?

subtona · 13 July 2016, 02:25 AM

Over polished for me.

Black Bay Dan · 13 July 2016, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmi32

Everyone's standard is different and it seems that this watch looks fine to others. But rounded crown guards would bug me. Below are pics (borrowed from HQMilton) of a 16803 with a bit less polishing.

Granted the crown guards have been polished but they are hardly nubs as you stated (I think the photographs make them look more rounded than they actually are), but they still look absolutely fine to me. And what is wrong with the lugs exactly as again I don't agree that they look to thin?

Dan

2JHead · 13 July 2016, 05:01 AM

This one has seen a few polishes which has resulted in soft crown guards with a slight loss of mass. The lugs remain fat enough but the lug holes have developed that soft hollowed out look. This watch would make for a nice wearer however if I was looking for safe queen material I'd look further

springer · 13 July 2016, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by locutus49

Looks okay to me given the age.

My thoughts also. Very typical of a preowned, older model.

SearChart · 13 July 2016, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Over polished for me.

Yep.

springer · 13 July 2016, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick M

It's funny that you grabbed that photo, I was referencing the same ones from HQMilton when doing a comparison myself.

The one I posted is definitely more polished but I really think some of what I'm seeing is lighting/reflection.

I agree, lighting makes a difference and I'm not seeing a significant difference.

dysondiver · 13 July 2016, 05:21 AM

if it had a crisper bezel , you wouldnt even notice the rest ,,, just my thughts

crowncollection · 13 July 2016, 06:13 AM

It's polished bit ok IMHO

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theflywrist · 13 July 2016, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dysondiver

if it had a crisper bezel , you wouldnt even notice the rest ,,, just my thughts

I agree a new sharp bezel ring makes a huge difference.

I am by no means an expert like some of the guys that have contributed in this thread, but I don't believe this to be "over-polished".

I still would not buy that watch because of the case.
Some people are not as picky about it, but I really dislike rounded crown guards..
If you can live with that, it is a great looking watch!

Nick M · 13 July 2016, 06:31 AM

I greatly appreciate all of the responses! I agree that a crisp bezel would set the watch off nicely and distract from the other areas.

That said, I'm going to pass on this one. Upon closer inspection of the serial number it turns out it's a 1985, one year off of what I need. If anyone is interested, shoot me a PM and I'll pass along the sellers info. I think it's a pretty good deal.

MonBK · 13 July 2016, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick M

I greatly appreciate all of the responses! I agree that a crisp bezel would set the watch off nicely and distract from the other areas.

That said, I'm going to pass on this one. Upon closer inspection of the serial number it turns out it's a 1985, one year off of what I need. If anyone is interested, shoot me a PM and I'll pass along the sellers info. I think it's a pretty good deal.

What is he asking?

Stuntpilot · 13 July 2016, 07:59 AM

Yes.

BNA/LION · 13 July 2016, 08:26 AM

I think the pass was a good decision. IMHO the bezel needs to be crisp and less polished case/band is more desirable.

Happy Hunting and Best Of Luck to You!

jvmartin · 13 July 2016, 06:40 PM

Not sure if its just the pics, but it looks like the space between the lug holes and the top of the lugs is tiny! Very little meat left IMHO

Vincent65 · 13 July 2016, 07:22 PM

Too soft/polished for me.

Alfasin · 14 July 2016, 11:19 AM

A little too polished for my liking.

BLP · 18 July 2016, 12:40 AM

I agree with the numerous others above that for a wearer it is fine. In fact, a pretty watch. If the price is decent maybe consider ignoring that it's softened by polishing.

chinklia · 4 September 2020, 01:00 AM

Not sure if just the angle, but spring bar seems overly visible Protruding the lug Hole

Kingface66 · 4 September 2020, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chinklia

Not sure if just the angle, but spring bar seems overly visible Protruding the lug Hole

I’m guessing the OP as moved on from this piece given this thread is 4 years old.

R.W.T. · 4 September 2020, 02:26 PM

Boy I'd like to see the sides re lapped properly flat. :-/

The bezel is ... why do people polish bezels?...I just don't get it.

The whole definition is gone.

I'm not a case nazi. Polishing a case properly is fine by me, especially if it's been
done wrong in the past...but rounded bezels really burn me.

13 July 2016, 01:17 AM	#1
Nick M "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 228	Is this over-polished? Hey all, I've been searching for a gift for my father and came across a piece that could fit the bill. I need to request additional photos from the seller but wanted to get your thoughts on condition. Do you think this is over-polished for a mid-80's watch? I'm sure it needed touch-ups along the way, but from what you can tell has it been over done? The lugs seem ok to me but the bezel looks like it's seen better days. I don't have any vintage pieces so I don't have a lot of hands on experience here. __________________ "When a man has a world in his hands, you expect to find a Rolex on his wrist."

13 July 2016, 02:20 AM	#9
Nick M "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 228	I just noticed this and it has me scratching my head a bit... "RS4" bracelet code? Seems odd on an 8,xxx,xxx serial number case, no? __________________ "When a man has a world in his hands, you expect to find a Rolex on his wrist."

13 July 2016, 02:25 AM	#10
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,988	Over polished for me. __________________

13 July 2016, 06:13 AM	#17
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	It's polished bit ok IMHO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

13 July 2016, 06:31 AM	#19
Nick M "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 228	I greatly appreciate all of the responses! I agree that a crisp bezel would set the watch off nicely and distract from the other areas. That said, I'm going to pass on this one. Upon closer inspection of the serial number it turns out it's a 1985, one year off of what I need. If anyone is interested, shoot me a PM and I'll pass along the sellers info. I think it's a pretty good deal. __________________ "When a man has a world in his hands, you expect to find a Rolex on his wrist."

13 July 2016, 01:20 AM	#2
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	To me that watch has been over polished. Lugs are thin and the crown guards are just nubs. I'd keep searching.

13 July 2016, 01:21 AM	#3
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Case has been lightly polished in the past, but I would not by any means consider it to be over-polished. Bezel looks fine as well. Overall it's a great example, especially considering it is nearly 30 years old.

13 July 2016, 01:45 AM	#5
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	Looks ok to me.

13 July 2016, 01:59 AM	#6
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Looks okay to me given the age.

13 July 2016, 05:01 AM	#12
2JHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Western Europe Posts: 609	This one has seen a few polishes which has resulted in soft crown guards with a slight loss of mass. The lugs remain fat enough but the lug holes have developed that soft hollowed out look. This watch would make for a nice wearer however if I was looking for safe queen material I'd look further

13 July 2016, 05:21 AM	#16
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	if it had a crisper bezel , you wouldnt even notice the rest ,,, just my thughts

13 July 2016, 07:59 AM	#21
Stuntpilot Banned Join Date: May 2015 Location: MS Posts: 373	Yes.

13 July 2016, 08:26 AM	#22
BNA/LION 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,193	Is this over-polished? I think the pass was a good decision. IMHO the bezel needs to be crisp and less polished case/band is more desirable. Happy Hunting and Best Of Luck to You! __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

13 July 2016, 06:40 PM	#23
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	Not sure if its just the pics, but it looks like the space between the lug holes and the top of the lugs is tiny! Very little meat left IMHO

13 July 2016, 07:22 PM	#24
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	Too soft/polished for me. __________________

14 July 2016, 11:19 AM	#25
Alfasin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 317	A little too polished for my liking. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/dquinn74/ - 74 6283 Sigma Big Red - 70 1680 Tropical Red Sub - 89 5513 Glossy Dial

18 July 2016, 12:40 AM	#26
BLP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bonn, Germany Watch: 14060 Posts: 27	I agree with the numerous others above that for a wearer it is fine. In fact, a pretty watch. If the price is decent maybe consider ignoring that it's softened by polishing.

4 September 2020, 01:00 AM	#27
chinklia "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Malaysia Posts: 7	Not sure if just the angle, but spring bar seems overly visible Protruding the lug Hole

4 September 2020, 02:26 PM	#29
R.W.T. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,973	Boy I'd like to see the sides re lapped properly flat. :-/ The bezel is ... why do people polish bezels?...I just don't get it. The whole definition is gone. I'm not a case nazi. Polishing a case properly is fine by me, especially if it's been done wrong in the past...but rounded bezels really burn me.

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