Will the BLNR ever be less expensive than a sub?

[guy369]

I know it's "newer", but before it's release the same year GMT vs Sub always had the Sub priced slightly higher (Grey market, used, and from my observations)

Will it only take time for BLNR models to eventually come close to, or below where the new subs are currently at for pricing?

[DeeTee]

No.
SS buyers rarely get any love when it comes to colors. The LVc is a bit too extreme for many buyers, the BLNR is just right.

[Watchgeek5000]

5 digit GMT's seem to be going for more than 5 digit subs at the moment.

[guy369]

Originally Posted by dt32886@gmail.com

No.
SS buyers rarely get any love when it comes to colors. The LVc is a bit too extreme for many buyers, the BLNR is just right.

But the bracelet on the sub is miles ahead.

I do hear where you're coming from.

Seems like Sub Vs GMT in pricing is always fluctuating.

[guy369]

Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

5 digit GMT's seem to be going for more than 5 digit subs at the moment.

I've noticed the GMT (green hand) is priced higher than any Sub I've seen for sale in places I look.

Strange to me, I do recall threads in the past of why the Sub is more expensive, and it seems to boil down to depth rating.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

5 digit GMT's seem to be going for more than 5 digit subs at the moment.

A few years back it was the opposite. In the same period a 1675 was really cheap to buy. Look what happened now, perhaps in a few years another surprising development.

[Rocco21]

Used I believe it will eventually be less than used subs.New it will stay less than lv but more than ln.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by guy369

I've noticed the GMT (green hand) is priced higher than any Sub I've seen for sale in places I look.

Strange to me, I do recall threads in the past of why the Sub is more expensive, and it seems to boil down to depth rating.

Rolex price structure doesn't have anything to do with depth rating or movement complications, or any other material thing.

Prices are based on supply-and-demand. Historically, GMT's have always been less than the Sub Date (until the popular ceramics came on the scene) and Explorer II's have been less than the GMT. It's a pricing structure, nothing else; and subject to change at a whim of the company.

[guy369]

Originally Posted by Tools

Rolex price structure doesn't have anything to do with depth rating or movement complications, or any other material thing.

Prices are based on supply-and-demand. Historically, GMT's have always been less than the Sub Date (until the popular ceramics came on the scene) and Explorer II's have been less than the GMT. It's a pricing structure, nothing else; and subject to change at a whim of the company.

Thanks for writing that, I was however speaking solely of the grey market/used prices for Sub Vs BLNR

The only reason I brought up depth rating was previous threads where the pricing of Sub vs GMT was discussed.

Either way, having never seen a BLNR in the flesh, I do believe once I do I will fall in love (PCL and all), and here I was thinking my SubC would be a keeper

[configsys]

Back in the late '90s the craze was with the Sub, Sea-Dweller models. I purchased 2 GMTs (16750 for $345 and 1675 for $1k) back then and sold the 16750 for $1.6k to purchase my Sea-Dweller. I see that same era watch go for $10k now. Also sold my Tudor Snowflake Mil Sub for $1.1k which I got in a trade for a 4GB hard drive in '95;-) Those go for around $8k now. I'm still kicking myself. At least I still have my '68 era 1675.

Point is, collectors (like yourself) is what determines the market. IMHO, the release of all the newer Sea-Dweller models hurt the older SD models and the release of the 116719 BLRO GMT helped the older Pepsi GMT models, but what do I know.

[guy369]

Originally Posted by configsys

Back in the late '90s the craze was with the Sub, Sea-Dweller models. I purchased 2 GMTs (16750 for $345 and 1675 for $1k) back then and sold the 16750 for $1.6k to purchase my Sea-Dweller. I see that same era watch go for $10k now. Also sold my Tudor Snowflake Mil Sub for $1.1k which I got in a trade for a 4GB hard drive in '95;-) Those go for around $8k now. I'm still kicking myself. At least I still have my '68 era 1675.

Point is, collectors (like yourself) is what determines the market. IMHO, the release of all the newer Sea-Dweller models hurt the older SD models and the release of the 116719 BLRO GMT helped the older Pepsi GMT models, but what do I know.

Oh I hear you, I sold a 16700 a few years back, only to see a sharp increase in the price a year later

Not sure what our problem us

[seik]

i doubt it would go for less than a sub anytime soon

[AK797]

Yes, when CokeC comes out BLNR will be toast like an Anglo-saxon Currency.

[T. Ferguson]

Unless they change the pricing structure then no, the BLNR will not be less then the Sub. But that's not the comparison because you are paying an upcharge for the TT bezel.

However, the BLNR will likely always be less than the SubLV.

[lukey77]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

Unless they change the pricing structure then no, the BLNR will not be less then the Sub. But that's not the comparison because you are paying an upcharge for the TT bezel.



However, the BLNR will likely always be less than the SubLV.

Not necessarily. In uk at moment you can pick up new LV for £6500. At moment BLNR is c 7k


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[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by lukey77

Not necessarily. In uk at moment you can pick up new LV for £6500. At moment BLNR is c 7k

The MSRP of the LV is lower? I'm sure the market will dictate via supply and demand, but for the foreseeable future I believe Rolex intends to position the Sub just above the GMT - in comparable steel anyway. The WG GMT is priced above the 116619.

[Rt0203]

Depends on the sub

[lukey77]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

The MSRP of the LV is lower? I'm sure the market will dictate via supply and demand, but for the foreseeable future I believe Rolex intends to position the Sub just above the GMT - in comparable steel anyway. The WG GMT is priced above the 116619.

I was referring to secondary market values by grey dealers not MSRP. Look on Chrono 24.
In uk the secondary BLNR price is higher.


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[masyv6]

Originally Posted by AK797

Yes, when CokeC comes out BLNR will be toast like an Anglo-saxon Currency.