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Old 28 April 2016, 03:05 AM   #31
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Not really the way we talk around here, especially to our Mods....
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Agree.....

I'm not sure when the mods gained pedestal access? They should be respected just like everyone else. No more no less. Mods, feel free to delete my comment if it is out of line.

OP asked a question and a member who happens to be a mod felt that their comment was somehow going to help the OP. Obviously it wasn't and that's why Cimballi stepped in.

Cimballi's response was warranted in my opinion.

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Old 28 April 2016, 03:12 AM   #32
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Seriously, Larry?

Do you have a suggestion for fixing this problem or do you only want to open a debate on semantics?
Bad form.
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Old 28 April 2016, 03:12 AM   #33
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Hey HogwldFLTR, are you on UMGF by chance?
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Old 28 April 2016, 03:17 AM   #34
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Seriously, Larry?

Do you have a suggestion for fixing this problem or do you only want to open a debate on semantics?


No, what I really want to do is bump the OP's post up higher with a "neutral" comment so it can get some discussion rather than drop off the bottom of the page.
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Old 28 April 2016, 03:37 AM   #35
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Old 28 April 2016, 03:56 AM   #36
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No, what I really want to do is bump the OP's post up higher with a "neutral" comment so it can get some discussion rather than drop off the bottom of the page.
Thank you for his explanation.
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Old 28 April 2016, 04:00 AM   #37
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I'm all for finding an excuse to go to Rolex. I'd have them source the spring-bar and do a little clean-up while it's in.
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Old 28 April 2016, 04:56 AM   #38
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Maybe after reading this post, I'll have it serviced....

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/rolex/5513bracelet.html
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Old 28 April 2016, 05:36 AM   #39
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Not a spring bar ! It's the solid hinge pin with the button head ,, you'll need to find someone who knows what they are doing ! Rik ,ABC ?
Thats exactly right, had the same issue myself. Took it to the local AD'S watchmaker, he put in a new one. He called it a "rivet pin".


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Old 28 April 2016, 05:47 AM   #40
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I'm not sure when the mods gained pedestal access? They should be respected just like everyone else. No more no less. Mods, feel free to delete my comment if it is out of line.

OP asked a question and a member who happens to be a mod felt that their comment was somehow going to help the OP. Obviously it wasn't and that's why Cimballi stepped in.

Cimballi's response was warranted in my opinion.

Now rock on with your bad self and don't take life too seriously.

I completely agree with this and applaud Cimballi for saying something. The bracelet is broken. It's function is to encirlce the wrist and then tighten securing the watch to the wrist. If in fact it doesn't do that then it's broken. The OP asked a reasonable question and deserves reasonable responses. The fact that that is what we all do most of the time without judgement and sarcasm is what makes this forum so great. Frankly, I thought Larry's post was out of character. I wasn't going to write anything until I saw so many incorrectly criticizing Cimballi.
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Old 28 April 2016, 05:56 AM   #41
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Well, I got on the phone with Rik. Since I've never had the watch serviced, it's time (no pun intended...) and 4 min is way too long. Apparently the rivet pin/cotter key should be locktited. He'll go back and check all the weak points as well as do the full service to bring it to specs.

I'll report back when complete! He's slammed with work, so it will be a while. Thanks again for everyone's input.


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Old 28 April 2016, 06:40 AM   #42
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Well, I got on the phone with Rik. Since I've never had the watch serviced, it's time (no pun intended...) and 4 min is way too long. Apparently the rivet pin/cotter key should be locktited. He'll go back and check all the weak points as well as do the full service to bring it to specs.

I'll report back when complete! He's slammed with work, so it will be a while. Thanks again for everyone's input.


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You will thank me when you get your serviced watch back. Rik is a magician and your Sub will look and run like a brand new watch. Even though he is really busy, his turnaround time will still beat the heck out of RSC. And he is totally accessible by phone. He has done wonders servicing my timepieces.
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Old 28 April 2016, 07:18 AM   #43
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Yes....it is BROKE.

Scary how many members think this could be a spring bar...

You could try a watchmaker to make a new pin, but I tried this once and their pin failed and the watch dropped. And a watchmaker won't cover that cost.

My suggestion is:
1. take the bracelet off (please tell me you can do that)
2. buy a nato so you can wear the watch
3. and send the bracelet into RSC for PROPER repair.
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cht,

Thanks for your suggestions.

I guess I do qualify as one of those moronic members that didn't know it was a spring bar. Although I don't post much, I usually find this forum a friendly place to learn about all aspects of Rolex history, technical info and interesting trivia....
You completely missed his point. It is NOT a springbar. And I join cht in being amazed at all the folks on here calling it a springbar. So much misinformation....

You're on the right track with Rik, although he is super slammed right now. I talked to him a week or so ago and he had just gotten in like 60 watches.
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Old 28 April 2016, 07:29 AM   #44
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Amazing how many posts before the pin was accurately identified as a rivet pin and not a springbar.

If I had lost this I would be concerned as well and would not be very comfortable with fixing rather than replacing. I have seen a couple of repaired clasps at this rivet pin location and they have been poorly done and loose. The repair did not inspire confidence

Maybe a competent repair is possible, but my preference would be replacement.
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Old 28 April 2016, 07:41 AM   #45
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By the way, I can tell you that Rolex is charging $525 for replacement clasps for the 78790A bracelets these days. I would imagine the 93150 clasps are the same.

That said, I'd think a repair would be possible in this case.
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Old 28 April 2016, 03:31 PM   #46
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I completely agree with this and applaud Cimballi for saying something. The bracelet is broken. It's function is to encirlce the wrist and then tighten securing the watch to the wrist. If in fact it doesn't do that then it's broken. The OP asked a reasonable question and deserves reasonable responses. The fact that that is what we all do most of the time without judgement and sarcasm is what makes this forum so great. Frankly, I thought Larry's post was out of character. I wasn't going to write anything until I saw so many incorrectly criticizing Cimballi.
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Old 28 April 2016, 09:13 PM   #47
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Rivet pin and evidence of overdue cleaning in order :)
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Old 28 April 2016, 09:45 PM   #48
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Old 29 April 2016, 12:07 AM   #49
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By the way, I can tell you that Rolex is charging $525 for replacement clasps for the 78790A bracelets these days. I would imagine the 93150 clasps are the same.

That said, I'd think a repair would be possible in this case.
$525? Wow, do you know if they give you credit for a trade in on your old clasp?
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Old 29 April 2016, 12:30 AM   #50
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$525? Wow, do you know if they give you credit for a trade in on your old clasp?
No they don't. In fact, it's a replacement only part, meaning they will not sell a new one (even to a watchmaker with a Rolex parts account) without the old one being sent in and surrendered to Rolex.
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Old 29 April 2016, 01:23 AM   #51
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If a pin came out it isn't exactly "broke" is it ??
I completely agree if a pin comes out I wouldn't consider it broken, it's pretty easy to put the pin back in and if you're missing the pin any watchmaker can help you with that. In some cases you may have to replace the complete class which is about 500 to 600 dollars even dad is really no big deal
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Old 29 April 2016, 05:39 AM   #52
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Are pins, screws, and springbars on PM bracelets also made of PM? I guess the screws are as they are visible?


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Old 22 June 2016, 03:50 AM   #53
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Update - Back from Rik's

Just a quick update on this post. I got the watch back from Rik last week, and he did a wonderful job! I can tell the watch is much more accurate, and looks brand new.

Thanks for all who posted; I learned quite a bit!

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Old 22 June 2016, 09:09 AM   #54
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^^^Looks great!
Glad it got resolved.

How did you make it this long without wearing it?!?!
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Old 22 June 2016, 10:04 AM   #55
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Cht, pretty much late to everything...

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Old 22 June 2016, 10:46 AM   #56
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Just a quick update on this post. I got the watch back from Rik last week, and he did a wonderful job! I can tell the watch is much more accurate, and looks brand new.

Thanks for all who posted; I learned quite a bit!

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Nice, now enjoy the heck out of it!! Rik does it again.
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Old 22 June 2016, 10:48 AM   #57
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I have the same watch, wear it in good health
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Old 22 June 2016, 10:50 AM   #58
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It looks awesome! Great move and I'm glad it worked out
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Hey HogwldFLTR, are you on UMGF by chance?
Just read the post above. Yes, Sir, unabashed GASaholic that I am.
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