ROLEX GMT - Concorde $295

[Cryten]

Originally Posted by breitlings

Officially the fastest jet plane ever flown was designed and built in 1958.

Also the russians also had a super sonic jet. It is widely believed that USSR stole fake plans that had an intentional flaw which rendered the "concordski" unsafe.

Concordski is still not fully understood by the west. It was clearly a Concorde like design, but the Russians used retractable canards to assist with pitch control (small wing line surfaces behind the cockpit) which may have been an innovation as canards reduce wing loading in pitch, or more likely were masking a major aerodynamic flaw as the Concorde got by just fine without them.

The fastest passenger aircraft ever flown first flew in 1969, the same year as the moon landings. Humanity has only gotten poorer since then. The Boeing SST never got past the design phase, sadly history isn't as exciting as the conspiracy theories suggest.

[Russell44]

Flew it once from Singapore to London, had to do a rush trip to Head Office Denmark from the Philippines.

[oldsalt]

Had a few trips on "Speedbird" ... a wonderful aircraft, I miss her and will never forget my time in her - especially my visits to the cockpit (courtesy of Rolls Royce - who I worked for a long, long time ago)
I had the truly wonderful experience of flying in her on a test flight from Singapore up toward India after an engine change in 1975... only eight people on board... got up to 54 thousand feet and we were fairly whizzing along...!!!!! Something I'll never forget...

[WEST HAM ROLEX]

Thanks for all your comments reg flying the Concord with images etc.

Anyone on the forum get a GMT around this time period at $295

[oldsalt]

I looked at one in Sydney...$350 AUD - bought a Seiko divers watch instead... $120 AUD, wish I'd bought the Rolex .... oh well ....

cheers

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by Cryten

Concordski is still not fully understood by the west. It was clearly a Concorde like design, but the Russians used retractable canards to assist with pitch control (small wing line surfaces behind the cockpit) which may have been an innovation as canards reduce wing loading in pitch, or more likely were masking a major aerodynamic flaw as the Concorde got by just fine without them.

The fastest passenger aircraft ever flown first flew in 1969, the same year as the moon landings. Humanity has only gotten poorer since then. The Boeing SST never got past the design phase, sadly history isn't as exciting as the conspiracy theories suggest.

The russians didn't understand the concorsdki either.

If you want to believe that for the last sixty years (oxcart/sr-71 is from 1958) we haven't made a faster plane that is up to you. However there are clues and facts the stuff I am talking about has all been supplanted and will likely be declassified within the next 20 years. Its interesting that to suggest an invention or product was taken off market for national security reasons, one they clearly built and had tooling for, is a conspiracy theory. Many inventions my grandfather worked on were taken off the market for "National Security" including lasers that measured vibration and more. It happens a lot, the gov't has to pay for the use and you have to prove how much they use it (which is difficult).

If you want proof/strong clues of the USA SST and its purpose look up all of the 20,000'+ landing strips. There are a lot in many places where such a runway is completely useless. For example a Runway at DIA can land the space shuttle.

Now here's the thing the thing, we don't even use scram Jets and Rockets in our most advanced and planes and space carriers we use truly disruptive tech. We have had working scramjets since the late 90s and early 00's. The Airforce confirmed they have scramjets after the PR agency "NASA" blew one up. It was also confirmed to me that project Aurora flew, and was incredibly fast, faster than ox cart, but it took "half a continent" to turn around, even Aurora is old now. To think that every other piece of technology from the sixties has improved but spaceships and planes means that classification and secrecy is working.

I can tell you 100% that the USA intelligence community is at least 15-25 years more advanced than current known technology and that they try to stay ahead. Even some of the computer tech they are using in Utah is more advanced than anything sold to consumers.

[porschedude]

I would take a few at those prices

[Jfdomega]

can i get a deal if i buy four in steel? if only, lol.

[masyv6]

Such a cool advertisement

[William.L.]

Originally Posted by breitlings

The russians didn't understand the concorsdki either.

If you want to believe that for the last sixty years (oxcart/sr-71 is from 1958) we haven't made a faster plane that is up to you. However there are clues and facts the stuff I am talking about has all been supplanted and will likely be declassified within the next 20 years. Its interesting that to suggest an invention or product was taken off market for national security reasons, one they clearly built and had tooling for, is a conspiracy theory. Many inventions my grandfather worked on were taken off the market for "National Security" including lasers that measured vibration and more. It happens a lot, the gov't has to pay for the use and you have to prove how much they use it (which is difficult).

If you want proof/strong clues of the USA SST and its purpose look up all of the 20,000'+ landing strips. There are a lot in many places where such a runway is completely useless. For example a Runway at DIA can land the space shuttle.

Now here's the thing the thing, we don't even use scram Jets and Rockets in our most advanced and planes and space carriers we use truly disruptive tech. We have had working scramjets since the late 90s and early 00's. The Airforce confirmed they have scramjets after the PR agency "NASA" blew one up. It was also confirmed to me that project Aurora flew, and was incredibly fast, faster than ox cart, but it took "half a continent" to turn around, even Aurora is old now. To think that every other piece of technology from the sixties has improved but spaceships and planes means that classification and secrecy is working.

I can tell you 100% that the USA intelligence community is at least 15-25 years more advanced than current known technology and that they try to stay ahead. Even some of the computer tech they are using in Utah is more advanced than anything sold to consumers.

Probably the coolest post I've ever read on an Internet forum.

[shedlock2000]

Originally Posted by Cryten

The only thing Boeing built was this mock up, which was sadly lost to the weather because it ended up being parked outside:







Their plans for the SST were too big and too optimistic for the technology available, it was never going to happen. Had an SST ever flown Boeing would be shouting from the roof tops.



The Concorde only got off the ground because the French and English signed a contract that neither would let the other out of, even thought the cost overruns were massive. That Anglo-French rivalry took centuries to develop and is responsible for one of the most amazing engineering feats of the modern age.



It's such a shame that one crash (that wasn't even the fault of the aircraft) brought it all to an end. The last bit of aviation glamour is gone, now the skies are just full of flying busses.

True story. Where has all the splendour and pride gone in engineering today?

I'm also properly pissed they grounded the Concord for sucking up a piece of dodgy old DC10 or something that littered the runway with debris! Am I right in thinking that the concord had one of the best mechanical reputations of any plane (breakdowns and component failures I mean)?


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[WEST HAM ROLEX]

Originally Posted by oldsalt

Had a few trips on "Speedbird" ... a wonderful aircraft, I miss her and will never forget my time in her - especially my visits to the cockpit (courtesy of Rolls Royce - who I worked for a long, long time ago)
I had the truly wonderful experience of flying in her on a test flight from Singapore up toward India after an engine change in 1975... only eight people on board... got up to 54 thousand feet and we were fairly whizzing along...!!!!! Something I'll never forget...

Just seen your photo
Thanks for sharing

[padi56]

Originally Posted by porschedude

I would take a few at those prices

Yes so would many but $295 in 1970 equals around $1,889.19 in 2017,so Rolex watches are more expensive in today's age..

[Grace]

Love old adverts like that. Thanks for sharing!

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by padi56

Yes so would many but $295 in 1970 equals around $1,889.19 in 2017,so Rolex watches are more expensive in today's age..

Yeah, no kidding. I guess that’s why they had to reinvent Tudor and bring it back to the US, since Tudor is essentially what Rolex used to be.

[Rocco21]

If only you could go back in time and buy a bunch of them.

[WEST HAM ROLEX]

Originally Posted by Rocco21

If only you could go back in time and buy a bunch of them.

Yes, and we all miss Concorde also.

I was lucky enough to fly her twice NY to London, only because my finance at the time worked for BA and had the hotline deal.

Wish I also purchased a few GMT pieces, but 1990 not 1970

[CaveDweller]

Never flew Concord, but watched it many times from the London approach flight path – she will be missed

A couple of useless facts – Concord needed to use the after burners to take off – not enough “flaps” without them, (which would probably have got in the way as she went through the barrier) – don’t know if this was where the Russkies went wrong with their design

The SR71 “Blackbird” was also an interesting aircraft – the thing leaked fuel like a sieve until it got up to speed …..

[Quailhunter]

On my flights from London to NYC, the after burners were used to take off and then cut off until we were over the ocean. They were relit for the climb to altitude and cruising speed. It was a very dramatic experience.

[ras47]

Originally Posted by breitlings

The russians didn't understand the concorsdki either.

If you want to believe that for the last sixty years (oxcart/sr-71 is from 1958) we haven't made a faster plane that is up to you. However there are clues and facts the stuff I am talking about has all been supplanted and will likely be declassified within the next 20 years. Its interesting that to suggest an invention or product was taken off market for national security reasons, one they clearly built and had tooling for, is a conspiracy theory. Many inventions my grandfather worked on were taken off the market for "National Security" including lasers that measured vibration and more. It happens a lot, the gov't has to pay for the use and you have to prove how much they use it (which is difficult).

If you want proof/strong clues of the USA SST and its purpose look up all of the 20,000'+ landing strips. There are a lot in many places where such a runway is completely useless. For example a Runway at DIA can land the space shuttle.

Now here's the thing the thing, we don't even use scram Jets and Rockets in our most advanced and planes and space carriers we use truly disruptive tech. We have had working scramjets since the late 90s and early 00's. The Airforce confirmed they have scramjets after the PR agency "NASA" blew one up. It was also confirmed to me that project Aurora flew, and was incredibly fast, faster than ox cart, but it took "half a continent" to turn around, even Aurora is old now. To think that every other piece of technology from the sixties has improved but spaceships and planes means that classification and secrecy is working.

I can tell you 100% that the USA intelligence community is at least 15-25 years more advanced than current known technology and that they try to stay ahead. Even some of the computer tech they are using in Utah is more advanced than anything sold to consumers.

Aurora. That’s probably what replaced the SR-71. A lot of those atmospheric quakes in California were probably caused by Aurora test flights.

By the time we admit to having something like the Blackbird we are 2-3 generations beyond it. If you’re in NYC, they have an SR-71 on the deck of the USS Intrepid and it’s quite a sight.

[Quailhunter]

A very long time ago, I was on a commercial flight into LA. We were over the desert. I was gazing out the window and saw a strange delta shaped aircraft below. I was working in the military aircraft industry at that time and knew it wasn’t a normal aircraft. Years later, the stealth F117 lead the first wave of planes into Iraq. That was what I saw over the desert.

[tommy91]

Enjoyed reading everyone's stories, my grandad flew concord a few times he used to tell me.

[fivedime]

Originally Posted by CaveDweller

The SR71 “Blackbird” was also an interesting aircraft – the thing leaked fuel like a sieve until it got up to speed …..

More to the point, it leaked like a sieve until it got up to temperature...which was concurrent with speed, so, yeah...

[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by Cryten

The last bit of aviation glamour is gone, now the skies are just full of flying busses.

Bah, nonsense. There's plenty of glamour left in commercial aviation. We will agree to disagree.

[rudestew]

Recently worked on its new hanger in Filton Bristol , would always fly over at 11am such a great icon and even better to see it take off and land so many times .

[RW16610]

Ah, the good old days! I've seen one fly in person but never been on one of those.

[Ticknaway]

I was stationed at Beale AFB in the 80s and let me tell you to see a SR 71take off was something!

P.S. the double cockpit trainer is displayed at the California Science Museum in LA it’s pretty cool.

[the_natural]

I love this thread.

[WEST HAM ROLEX]

Originally Posted by the_natural

I love this thread.

Yes, I suppose so many members on this forum have a love for Aviation & vintage Rolex

[Daytonaman799]

I flew Concorde from London to JFK in 1994. It was an amazing flight. The lounge was fantastic and the service on the plane was great. Caviar, Krug, just great. Mick Jagger was a few rows up. It was like something out of a movie and the bonus was you were home in about half the time which was just awesome. It was my one and only time and I wore my 1675 which is now long gone....