116610LV Really good fake or real?

[Onikage]

I can now say with certainty that I will never buy a SubC or probably any modern Rolex. The fact that long time TRF members were arguing over authenticity of a highly zoomed 3135 movement has spooked me immensely. I've seen a few chinese clones and there was nothing I could see in the initial pics that looked fake. NOTHING. If they're getting that good I'm out. I'll never own a SD4K.

[Mnicolini300]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I can now say with certainty that I will never buy a SubC or probably any modern Rolex. The fact that long time TRF members were arguing over authenticity of a highly zoomed 3135 movement has spooked me immensely. I've seen a few chinese clones and there was nothing I could see in the initial pics that looked fake. NOTHING. If they're getting that good I'm out. I'll never own a SD4K.

I believe fakes are getting really good but I wouldn't steer away from them just yet as many reputable dealers on trf will certainly make sure you don't get screwed.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[HeartRolex]

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

Take a close look at the bottom of case pic where the end links mate up to the case! Crude. My genuine Hulk does not look like that, I will repeat, the watch is a higher end replica, but not the real deal. I am wearing my Hulk as I type this.

Not wearing a Hulk but I agree it's fake or Franken. Bezel color is off and font size is not consistent for all numbers. There is a definite crudeness that one doesn't see on an authentic Hulk.

[GLADIATOR]

Watch was 100% genuine - are you reading the thread?

[HeartRolex]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Watch was 100% genuine - are you reading the thread?

Yes thank you, I AM reading and noted issues on the bezel which many have also questioned. Now I look forward to hearing the updated report from RSC when the watch is fully serviced and returned.

For whatever reason it seems the "is it authentic" threads seem to take a nasty turn, which doesn't make sense because this is suppose to be a forum where people can and will speculate. There is also the likelihood that comments may not post immediately and/or overlap with a new response.

Please calm down...it's watch forum, we're not trying to cure cancer.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by HeartRolex

Yes

Please calm down...it's watch forum, we're not trying to cure cancer.

Trust me I am calm, just thought you had missed the conclusion circa page 2 and 3.
The movement is surely genuine.

But I agree "we are not here to cure cance" - just identify fakes lol

[HeartRolex]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Trust me I am calm, just thought you had missed the conclusion circa page 2 and 3.
The movement is surely genuine.

But I agree "we are not here to cure cance" - just identify fakes lol

Thanks, just confirming that my initial and later posts were about the bezel and coincide with similar comments. I'm always happy to see fakes identified so we can be sure there is one less person being taken advantage of.

[MattCH]

Are the people commenting experts technicians?
Everyone talking like the are into watchmaking since years.... And i don't think most of the posters even opened a Rolex case back.

[imperio]

Originally Posted by mattiamalchiodi

Are the people commenting experts technicians?
Everyone talking like the are into watchmaking since years.... And i don't think most of the posters even opened a Rolex case back.

Lol this made my day

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I can now say with certainty that I will never buy a SubC or probably any modern Rolex. The fact that long time TRF members were arguing over authenticity of a highly zoomed 3135 movement has spooked me immensely. I've seen a few chinese clones and there was nothing I could see in the initial pics that looked fake. NOTHING. If they're getting that good I'm out. I'll never own a SD4K.

This is why I stay with my Rolex AD. I will pay a little more if need be to not have to worry about it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[mapalfa]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I can now say with certainty that I will never buy a SubC or probably any modern Rolex. The fact that long time TRF members were arguing over authenticity of a highly zoomed 3135 movement has spooked me immensely. I've seen a few chinese clones and there was nothing I could see in the initial pics that looked fake. NOTHING. If they're getting that good I'm out. I'll never own a SD4K.

I have to say I'm tempted to agree with you.

Originally Posted by Mnicolini300

I believe fakes are getting really good but I wouldn't steer away from them just yet as many reputable dealers on trf will certainly make sure you don't get screwed.

As said above if people with hundreds of years experience between them of looking closely at photos of movements, plus others with genuine technical experience, can get into this big a dog fight over whether or not this particular one is genuine, then I've absolutely no doubt whatsoever that any seller (no matter how honest and genuine) could get caught out. The fact that they don't intend to pass on a fake wouldn't alter the fact that one could be passed on.

Originally Posted by bdex75

This is why I stay with my Rolex AD. I will pay a little more if need be to not have to worry about it.

I've bought Rolex, Tudor, Omega, Grand Seiko and Breitling from ebay, plus Tudor and Hublot from high street used dealers, but I'm going to be taking a lot more care in future after this case has polarised opinions so much. I'm not really in the AD income bracket, and normally prefer to buy a few more decent used pieces than save for one BNIB from an AD, but that might have to change.

[Max Payne]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I can now say with certainty that I will never buy a SubC or probably any modern Rolex. The fact that long time TRF members were arguing over authenticity of a highly zoomed 3135 movement has spooked me immensely. I've seen a few chinese clones and there was nothing I could see in the initial pics that looked fake. NOTHING. If they're getting that good I'm out. I'll never own a SD4K.

Seriously, if the long time members here can't identify a Sub being THAT obviously genuine, they are not interested in Rolex watches, blind or doing something wrong.
The problem is, that people think post count equals reputation, which it doesn't.
Some assertions in this thread made me cringe.
People with absolutely ZERO knowledge come by and make a false statements so confident, it makes me jealous of their self-awareness!
No one blames you, if you don't know something and admit it or keep quiet though.

[cajunron]

In my honest opinion, as long as you go by the TRF Golden Rule, "Buy the seller, not the watch", you should not worry about buying a pre-owned watch of any kind. Plenty of trustworthy sellers here. This is where I bought my first 'high end' watch. I would never risk thousands of dollars to someone unknown to me, regardless of any money back guarantee.

[amg55]

was there any laser etching ?

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by amg55

was there any laser etching ?

Yes
A

[Max Payne]

Originally Posted by amg55

was there any laser etching ?

Yes, so it must be fake.

[amg55]

Having read through this thread, it really is scary. I think all my future purchases will be through an AD. As much as I'd like to think that TR know their stuff but you just don't really know, do you?

[indywatchguy]

Yes LV is fake....lume tells it all...to dim.

[rolexhuakbar]

The OP's photos are very bad quality, makes everything look cruddy and fake. but as cruddy as the photos are, it cant make the adjustment screws disappear.. what happened to the adjustment screws? if I can see the spokes I should be able to see the screws which are about just as thick. I call fake on this one.... or maybe a clearer photo will reveal?