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Old 22 June 2008, 07:02 PM   #1
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Bracelet authentication?








Was sold to me as authentic, from a well trusted user at another forum (as part of a trade, needed something to even it out, and this was offered as cash wasn't an option for him) but still, just want to be sure.

The engravings are really rather sharp, and the bracelet 'feels' really nice and buttery..

anyway, any help you can give determining whether it is legit or not would be most appreciated.

Cheers

(hope this is the right section.. seems weird to be posting in the 'watch out!' section )

EDIT: Read the rules, and this may be the wrong section eh?

"6. Any allegation that a watch is a 'fake' must be supported with reason/s otherwise the post will be removed forthwith without notice."

I cannot meet that, I'm asking for assistance, and i've no idea if it is fake or not..
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Old 22 June 2008, 10:31 PM   #2
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It looks nice. I believe it is also O.K. to put here as you were unsure of the authenticity. By the way, welcome to TRF since this is your first post. I hope that you get involved and stick around. There are a lot of good people here and knowledge to learn. What model Rolex (s) do you have?

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Old 22 June 2008, 11:17 PM   #3
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Fake!!!!!!!!!

Run....run....run........:thum bsdow

the coronet is wrong on the folding clasp. The LINKS are not correct for a 7206-genuine 7206 have folded links. The springbar connector is not correct. The folding clasp number does not correspond with the number on the first link. FAKE!!!!
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Old 22 June 2008, 11:43 PM   #4
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Wow. I knew I was out of my league with bracelets. I was looking at the numbers and codes and believing that made it genuine.

Thanks Stan, I am truly humbled. I will have to learn from the master.

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Old 22 June 2008, 11:44 PM   #5
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That Z10 code would indicate that the clasp was made in Oct of '97. I don't think they were making riveted bracelets back then.
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Old 22 June 2008, 11:52 PM   #6
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This chart might help:

My Rolex Report (which I don't think is correct) says that a 78753 corresponds to a TT Oyster bracelet and that 7206 is a 18K oyster bracelet. The chart above says it came off of a Sub, an EXP or a GMT. Too many question marks for my liking.
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Old 23 June 2008, 12:01 AM   #7
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Allan:

Where did you get that chart? That would come in handy for me as I am a novice at bracelets. They are a mystery to me along with Tudors. I leave the Tudors to Stan and Steve and the bracelets to Springer and Stan.

This chart would make a nice reference guide for me.

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Old 23 June 2008, 12:10 AM   #8
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Where did you get that chart?
Bo posted it
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Old 23 June 2008, 12:43 AM   #9
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Got it. Thank-You.

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Old 23 June 2008, 01:29 AM   #10
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Spot on Stan,

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Old 23 June 2008, 02:28 AM   #11
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NOW that is CORRECT!!!

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Old 23 June 2008, 02:36 AM   #12
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Wow. I knew I was out of my league with bracelets. I was looking at the numbers and codes and believing that made it genuine.

Thanks Stan, I am truly humbled. I will have to learn from the master.

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....so damned many fake and mix-matched bracelets out there! I even saw a "reputable" person on another forum selling as genuine a fake band. Have even seen ang, hessfine, and astorlive with some fake stuff running on the bay. Just goes to show you that EITHER they had one slip by them or were trying to be slick thinking they would not be questioned because of their FB or supposed reputation.

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Old 23 June 2008, 03:43 AM   #13
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Stan...Mike...VERY well done!
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Old 23 June 2008, 07:05 AM   #14
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Run....run....run........:thum bsdow

the coronet is wrong on the folding clasp. The LINKS are not correct for a 7206-genuine 7206 have folded links. The springbar connector is not correct. The folding clasp number does not correspond with the number on the first link. FAKE!!!!
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Eeep! Guess I have a lot to learn! Thanks for the reply... guess you never can be too careful.

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It looks nice. I believe it is also O.K. to put here as you were unsure of the authenticity. By the way, welcome to TRF since this is your first post. I hope that you get involved and stick around. There are a lot of good people here and knowledge to learn. What model Rolex (s) do you have?

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Actually, I do not have a rolex anymore. (whoops!). I have a moon watch, an anonimo, and an older JLC (being serviced at the moment).

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....so damned many fake and mix-matched bracelets out there! I even saw a "reputable" person on another forum selling as genuine a fake band. Have even seen ang, hessfine, and astorlive with some fake stuff running on the bay. Just goes to show you that EITHER they had one slip by them or were trying to be slick thinking they would not be questioned because of their FB or supposed reputation.

Stan.
So, the call is 100% bogus 'fauxlex' or mix and match? Ugh, that's really disappointing.
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Old 23 June 2008, 07:09 AM   #15
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hrm, last message went to 'moderation', not sure if i used some banned word.. anyway, thanks for your help. My 'in moderation' message had more detail.. hopefully it will show up.
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Old 23 June 2008, 12:36 PM   #16
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100% Fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

100% FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:th umbsdow
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Old 23 June 2008, 12:49 PM   #17
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100% FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:th umbsdow
Sigh.. guess i'll bin it, or toss it in my parts box.. sonofa...
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Old 23 June 2008, 01:27 PM   #18
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...send the band back and GET your money back!!

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Do not sit by and let them get away with it.

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Old 23 June 2008, 01:45 PM   #19
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Do not sit by and let them get away with it.

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it was part of a trade, and im not keen on trading back if it comes to that...

i'll shoot him a message and see what can be done.
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Old 23 June 2008, 03:28 PM   #20
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I sent Mullholland a message last week on that band or a band like it with the same band numbers. It contains two different band part numbers and the clasp number is from a two tone band clasp number from an 80's vintage band.

This band appears to be a counterfeit band. Also, 7206's should be folded link bands. The links on the pictured band appear counterfeit, and the band is a mismatch of part numbers. I'd run as fast as Forest from this band.

Stan, I just saw your post, after my reply. Looks like a bad dream. Also, if you exam the scrollwork around the crown (first photo) you'll notice that this is typical of a counterfeit as it is different than that on a genuine band.

7206 was available in full stainless steel with folded links, Swiss made.
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Old 24 June 2008, 03:11 PM   #21
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Was sold to me as authentic, from a well trusted user at another forum (as part of a trade, needed something to even it out, and this was offered as cash wasn't an option for him) but still, just want to be sure.
Err buddy...if ya don't mind telling...who's the fellow that sold you this bracelet...??
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Old 24 June 2008, 09:37 PM   #22
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I sent Mullholland a message last week on that band or a band like it with the same band numbers. It contains two different band part numbers and the clasp number is from a two tone band clasp number from an 80's vintage band.

This band appears to be a counterfeit band. Also, 7206's should be folded link bands. The links on the pictured band appear counterfeit, and the band is a mismatch of part numbers. I'd run as fast as Forest from this band.

Stan, I just saw your post, after my reply. Looks like a bad dream. Also, if you exam the scrollwork around the crown (first photo) you'll notice that this is typical of a counterfeit as it is different than that on a genuine band.

7206 was available in full stainless steel with folded links, Swiss made.

The 7206 does have rivit links, as I had a "memory moment" and confused this band with the 7836 band which has folded links. But, the rivit links in the depicted band are thicker than those found on the genuine band and are typical of the counterfeits being produced.
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Old 28 June 2008, 09:31 PM   #23
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Datejust band

Hello all,

Brand new to this forum but find it to be a wealth of info. I recently got into Rolexes with my Dad's Datejust, although Im just curious about bracelet authenticity. The clasp embossing says "RBGSFRKED SNSAWABE <ROLEX> D 12 STEELNOX 62523N.18" This seems like gibberish. Is it legit?

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Old 29 June 2008, 02:46 AM   #24
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Hello all,

Brand new to this forum but find it to be a wealth of info. I recently got into Rolexes with my Dad's Datejust, although Im just curious about bracelet authenticity. The clasp embossing says "RBGSFRKED SNSAWABE <ROLEX> D 12 STEELNOX 62523N.18" This seems like gibberish. Is it legit?

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Sight unseen.....FAKE!!!:b anghead:

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I sent Mullholland a message last week on that band or a band like it with the same band numbers. It contains two different band part numbers and the clasp number is from a two tone band clasp number from an 80's vintage band.

This band appears to be a counterfeit band. Also, 7206's should be folded link bands. The links on the pictured band appear counterfeit, and the band is a mismatch of part numbers. I'd run as fast as Forest from this band.

Stan, I just saw your post, after my reply. Looks like a bad dream. Also, if you exam the scrollwork around the crown (first photo) you'll notice that this is typical of a counterfeit as it is different than that on a genuine band.

7206 was available in full stainless steel with folded links, Swiss made.
the one I had was genuine made of of two different bands,the crown was nothing like that one.took it to hess to be sure.
also the 7206 does have folded links.
it is common that bracelets get Frankenstein'd together when the parts are not available in a timely manor.
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Old 29 June 2008, 11:41 AM   #26
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What gives it away that its fake? Are these not typical markings?
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Old 29 June 2008, 12:33 PM   #27
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What gives it away that its fake? Are these not typical markings?
Rolex never put giberish on their clasps or any other part of the watch.

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Hello all,

Brand new to this forum but find it to be a wealth of info. I recently got into Rolexes with my Dad's Datejust, although Im just curious about bracelet authenticity. The clasp embossing says "RBGSFRKED SNSAWABE <ROLEX> D 12 STEELNOX 62523N.18" This seems like gibberish. Is it legit?

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RBGSFRKED SNSAWABE
REGISTERED SWISSMADE

lol, is probably what it is *supposed* to say.
made by someone who did not speak english and looking for characters that matched?

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REGISTERED SWISSMADE

lol, is probably what it is *supposed* to say.
made by someone who did not speak english and looking for characters that matched?

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Oh my God! You're absolutely correct. Putting it together that way makes it obvious about the scam. That's too funny. That is like the Daytona that get's tossed around on the internet that says; "Winner AD Daytona" because they didn't know how to spell AT. So that is the number one way to spot that fake. Too funny other than it's serious business trying to sell fake garbage. Thank God they can't speak English and, let's hope they don't learn.

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Stan.[/QUOTE]

My uncle from Kuwait bought one of these watches from a genuine dealer. I would say this is one hundred percent real as kuwait a rich country in oil and gold do not do fakes from my own personal experience.
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