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Sg6067 · 6 August 2020, 04:18 AM

Curious how everyone here on the AP forum feels about this? This is from a current thread (today) on the Rolex general forum. I’m sure this kind of thing happens across all brands in the watch industry. I guess for a 15500 or 15450 it is less bothersome. But when so many collectors who have established relationships with AP (and have spent a lot of money) are begging for an allocation of 15202st, is this sort of thing really happening?! Would AP allow this? I thought 15202 allocations had to be approved by the manager of the boutique? Please see the screenshot attached and the reply of OP to my comment. The original context is that OP posted asking which he should buy a 15500 blue a 15202 or a Rolex DD. Maybe I should make friends in London?

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Seddyspaghetti · 6 August 2020, 04:39 AM

I doubt AP would allow this (obviously). But good for that guy though, i'm not going to hate on his connections.

Sg6067 · 6 August 2020, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

I doubt AP would allow this (obviously). But good for that guy though, i'm not going to hate on his connections.

Yeah me either, you can see what I responded. Not meaning for this thread to come off as like I’m policing the situation. Just genuinely shocked that AP would allow it. Good for him!

Burlington · 6 August 2020, 05:48 AM

Await the incoming

Uros · 6 August 2020, 06:08 AM

I bought mine 15202 in AD without purchase history (in 2016)...

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eskiserkan · 6 August 2020, 06:11 AM

If you are the direct relative or close friend of the boutique owner that you can eat&drink together, than ofcourse you can get it without buying 100k of useless watches. Otherwise, dont think anybody in anywhere around the world can get it directly.
Some shops use this relations to feed greymarket too. So, dont panic nobody gets anything free :)

Sg6067 · 6 August 2020, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Uros

I bought mine 15202 in AD without purchase history (in 2016)...

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2016 was a different world, congrats!

RolexZen · 6 August 2020, 07:12 AM

2016 was indeed a different world. Even 2018, I dare say.

But even today, I am surprised that people are so quick to say "No chance", or "only if you buy X or spend $Y".

There are always going to be people who find a way. I didn't have much luck on the Ceramic Daytona before I lost interest in it, but I knew it was possible (even at retail).

In this case, I know nothing about the guy that says he can get a Jumbo quickly. Is he a troll? Is he well-connected? Is he a potential whale? Is he an influencer? Doesn't really matter, either he can get it or he can't. *Shrug*

If he does have connections, the SA or AD or Boutique must be willing to give up a significant amount of goodwill towards other customers to allow this guy to cut in line. And if that's the case, he must be of some value to them.

cmcm3 · 6 August 2020, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexZen

But even today, I am surprised that people are so quick to say "No chance", or "only if you buy X or spend $Y".

Just got a 15202st as my first boutique AP and second ever AP (not even sure they knew I had had the first one) and with no connections, so it’s definitely possible. You just have to be a lovely guy like me!

RolexZen · 6 August 2020, 07:48 AM

Ha ha, count me in on the “personality goes a long way” club.

Analysing You · 6 August 2020, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexZen

2016 was indeed a different world. Even 2018, I dare say.

But even today, I am surprised that people are so quick to say "No chance", or "only if you buy X or spend $Y".

There are always going to be people who find a way. I didn't have much luck on the Ceramic Daytona before I lost interest in it, but I knew it was possible (even at retail).

In this case, I know nothing about the guy that says he can get a Jumbo quickly. Is he a troll? Is he well-connected? Is he a potential whale? Is he an influencer? Doesn't really matter, either he can get it or he can't. *Shrug*

If he does have connections, the SA or AD or Boutique must be willing to give up a significant amount of goodwill towards other customers to allow this guy to cut in line. And if that's the case, he must be of some value to them.

THIS!

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Sg6067 · 6 August 2020, 08:33 AM

I should have posed my question better, sorry guys I was at work when I wrote this

. I’m not trying to be one of those jealous people with an, I’m mad someone else got something I wanted thread. I’m happy for the guy if he can get it, that’s awesome for him! The point was simply that I thought AP moved to a boutique only format to avoid situations like this. Meaning an employee can’t sell hot watches like the 15202 to his friends. I would think AP would have to approve the purchase of small batch hot watches with their allocation system? Merely surprised and asking what others thought of this?

sgwatchguy · 6 August 2020, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cmcm3

You just have to be a lovely guy like me!

LOL. Now if I only knew how to pull that off!

Sg6067 · 6 August 2020, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cmcm3

Just got a 15202st as my first boutique AP and second ever AP (not even sure they knew I had had the first one) and with no connections, so it’s definitely possible. You just have to be a lovely guy like me!

Perhaps I’ve been drinking too much of the AP kool aid and 15202 isn’t unobtanium. It was my impression it was reserved for long time clients but of course there will be occasional exceptions.
My thread should have been worded more directly, the problem I had was with the thought a 15202 could be sold directly to an SA’s friends who have no prior relationship with the boutique.

macrowatch · 6 August 2020, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sg6067

Perhaps I’ve been drinking too much of the AP kool aid and 15202 isn’t unobtanium. It was my impression it was reserved for long time clients but of course there will be occasional exceptions.
My thread should have been worded more directly, the problem I had was with the thought a 15202 could be sold directly to an SA’s friends who have no prior relationship with the boutique.

It pays to be on good terms with the owners. That axiom applies beyond watch shops too.

Caramba · 6 August 2020, 09:44 AM

There's a lot of I-rub-your-back--and-you-rub-my-back in this industry for sure. Ultimately allocation is down to a select few individuals making decisions that suits their agenda. Maybe his contacts have purchase history? Maybe his contact is an SVP in AP? Maybe his contact is a celebrity or VIP?

6 August 2020, 04:18 AM	#1
Sg6067 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Sean Location: US Watch: AP 15450ST Blue Posts: 249	15202st without purchase history Curious how everyone here on the AP forum feels about this? This is from a current thread (today) on the Rolex general forum. I’m sure this kind of thing happens across all brands in the watch industry. I guess for a 15500 or 15450 it is less bothersome. But when so many collectors who have established relationships with AP (and have spent a lot of money) are begging for an allocation of 15202st, is this sort of thing really happening?! Would AP allow this? I thought 15202 allocations had to be approved by the manager of the boutique? Please see the screenshot attached and the reply of OP to my comment. The original context is that OP posted asking which he should buy a 15500 blue a 15202 or a Rolex DD. Maybe I should make friends in London? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 August 2020, 05:48 AM	#4
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,634	Await the incoming __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

6 August 2020, 04:39 AM	#2
Seddyspaghetti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Uranus Watch: 116500LN Posts: 4,622	I doubt AP would allow this (obviously). But good for that guy though, i'm not going to hate on his connections.

6 August 2020, 06:08 AM	#5
Uros "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 391	I bought mine 15202 in AD without purchase history (in 2016)... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 August 2020, 06:11 AM	#6
eskiserkan "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bursa Watch: 116500LN Posts: 493	If you are the direct relative or close friend of the boutique owner that you can eat&drink together, than ofcourse you can get it without buying 100k of useless watches. Otherwise, dont think anybody in anywhere around the world can get it directly. Some shops use this relations to feed greymarket too. So, dont panic nobody gets anything free :)

6 August 2020, 07:12 AM	#8
RolexZen "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Atlanta Watch: No Rolex Posts: 722	2016 was indeed a different world. Even 2018, I dare say. But even today, I am surprised that people are so quick to say "No chance", or "only if you buy X or spend $Y". There are always going to be people who find a way. I didn't have much luck on the Ceramic Daytona before I lost interest in it, but I knew it was possible (even at retail). In this case, I know nothing about the guy that says he can get a Jumbo quickly. Is he a troll? Is he well-connected? Is he a potential whale? Is he an influencer? Doesn't really matter, either he can get it or he can't. Shrug If he does have connections, the SA or AD or Boutique must be willing to give up a significant amount of goodwill towards other customers to allow this guy to cut in line. And if that's the case, he must be of some value to them.

6 August 2020, 07:48 AM	#10
RolexZen "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Atlanta Watch: No Rolex Posts: 722	Ha ha, count me in on the “personality goes a long way” club.

6 August 2020, 08:33 AM	#12
Sg6067 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Sean Location: US Watch: AP 15450ST Blue Posts: 249	I should have posed my question better, sorry guys I was at work when I wrote this . I’m not trying to be one of those jealous people with an, I’m mad someone else got something I wanted thread. I’m happy for the guy if he can get it, that’s awesome for him! The point was simply that I thought AP moved to a boutique only format to avoid situations like this. Meaning an employee can’t sell hot watches like the 15202 to his friends. I would think AP would have to approve the purchase of small batch hot watches with their allocation system? Merely surprised and asking what others thought of this?

6 August 2020, 09:44 AM	#16
Caramba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Singapore Posts: 111	There's a lot of I-rub-your-back--and-you-rub-my-back in this industry for sure. Ultimately allocation is down to a select few individuals making decisions that suits their agenda. Maybe his contacts have purchase history? Maybe his contact is an SVP in AP? Maybe his contact is a celebrity or VIP?

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