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jag32 · 29 May 2019, 04:15 PM

I decided to sell only my 5035J, which I anticipate will net me about $18-19kk given the current market and I want to replace it with another Patek in the $20k range or under. I already have a 5296G Calatrava so I don’t want another Calatrava. What are some good Pateks I should look at in the $20k and under range? From what I can find, the only option for a Patek with complications is the travel time 5034, 5015, and 5055. What else is there I should consider?

ts3 · 29 May 2019, 06:45 PM

Uh, oh... some good Pateks for up to $20k but no Calatrava?

There you go, some more Pateks in that price range, depending on what you like more good or less good ...
- 5167A Aquanaut from the AD if you are ready to wait some... and then some...
- Midsize steel gold 3800 Nautilus or quarz 5064 and automatic 5066 Aquanauts
- 5110J Worldtime if you are ready to add a few grand...

No offense intended, but trying to replace one Patek w another Patek in the same limited price range w/o lusting for a specific piece appears a little strange. How does it fit into your Cartier/Gondolo thread from 1 or 2 days ago? Why not just sell the 5035J and take your time until you find sth you really love?

jrs146 · 29 May 2019, 10:24 PM

I’d shoot for a 5167 at retail. Not an easy task but a darn nice Patek for under 20k

kneedeep · 29 May 2019, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

I’d shoot for a 5167 at retail. Not an easy task but a darn nice Patek for under 20k

This plus lots of patience.

dannyp · 29 May 2019, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ts3

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- 5167A Aquanaut from the AD if you are ready to wait some... and then some...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrs146

I’d shoot for a 5167 at retail. Not an easy task but a darn nice Patek for under 20k

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Originally Posted by kneedeep

This plus lots of patience.

This is what I would do. Then again, were I in the market for my first new PP this is the piece I'd gravitate towards regardless.

Tan · 30 May 2019, 12:09 AM

The 5035 is a piece that I believe has a ton of upside potential. One actually recently sold at auction a few weeks ago at Sotheby's for $32,000 and Govberg has one listed up for $23,500 without B&P.

That watch is probably the best bang per buck Patek you can get at that price range so I think you'll have a hard time replacing it for something of equal quality without putting in some extra coin.

GB-man · 30 May 2019, 12:21 AM

5065 maybe?

AK797 · 30 May 2019, 12:57 AM

I'd look at Lange, lots of serious watches in your budget.

enjoythemusic · 30 May 2019, 03:41 AM

Would keep the 5035. Had the rg version when they were first released and, yeah, the date numbers don't line up all the time but it is what it is. 5110 might be the next choice, though there are A LOT of great vintage Calatrava Pateks in the 33 to 38mm range for under $20k. If you have to sell the 5035, go vintage for sure. The hand craftsmanship is far better with those earlier pieces too imho.

https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...ava--mod93.htm

Tan · 30 May 2019, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Would keep the 5035. Had the rg version when they were first released and, yeah, the date numbers don't line up all the time but it is what it is. 5110 might be the next choice, though there are A LOT of great vintage Calatrava Pateks in the 33 to 38mm range for under $20k. If you have to sell the 5035, go vintage for sure. The hand craftsmanship is far better with those earlier pieces too imho.

https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...ava--mod93.htm

I personally think the 5035 has more upside potential than the 5110 since it was the world's first Annual Calendar. Quite undervalued today, but it has everything going for it especially when it's priced at similar levels to like 5127s.

Justindo · 30 May 2019, 12:43 PM

With that budget, I'd keep what you have.

Chute · 30 May 2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Justindo

With that budget, I'd keep what you have.

Agreed, unless there is some new 1031 exchange in the tax code for Patek’s.

Trying to find a sub $20k Patek will be difficult unless you can get a 5167

enjoythemusic · 31 May 2019, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tan

I personally think the 5035 has more upside potential than the 5110 since it was the world's first Annual Calendar.

100% agree the 5035 is a keeper, plus Patek made so many variants of the 5110 WT it's almost become a cliché of itself

PatekSF · 31 May 2019, 08:06 AM

5134G with $ leftover!

soundserious · 31 May 2019, 09:43 AM

Did $15k to your 5035 and get a platinum datograph. No dealer would refuse that offer.

Edit: actually start at $10k. It’s a Dato after all.

Mr.Rolex1 · 5 June 2019, 03:27 AM

You could consider selling 5035J & 5296G for a vintage calatrava and 5110j

Do you really wear the Calatrava that much?

29 May 2019, 04:15 PM	#1
jag32 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: DC Watch: PP/AP/BP/UN Posts: 1,015	$20k and under used Pateks I decided to sell only my 5035J, which I anticipate will net me about $18-19kk given the current market and I want to replace it with another Patek in the $20k range or under. I already have a 5296G Calatrava so I don’t want another Calatrava. What are some good Pateks I should look at in the $20k and under range? From what I can find, the only option for a Patek with complications is the travel time 5034, 5015, and 5055. What else is there I should consider?

29 May 2019, 10:24 PM	#3
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	I’d shoot for a 5167 at retail. Not an easy task but a darn nice Patek for under 20k __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

30 May 2019, 12:21 AM	#7
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	5065 maybe? __________________

30 May 2019, 03:41 AM	#9
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,401	Would keep the 5035. Had the rg version when they were first released and, yeah, the date numbers don't line up all the time but it is what it is. 5110 might be the next choice, though there are A LOT of great vintage Calatrava Pateks in the 33 to 38mm range for under $20k. If you have to sell the 5035, go vintage for sure. The hand craftsmanship is far better with those earlier pieces too imho. https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...ava--mod93.htm __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

31 May 2019, 08:06 AM	#14
PatekSF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Client n.9 Location: Upper Volta Watch: what I like to do Posts: 437	5134G with $ leftover! __________________ I don't mind patina as long as it's my patina.

29 May 2019, 06:45 PM	#2
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,223	Uh, oh... some good Pateks for up to $20k but no Calatrava? There you go, some more Pateks in that price range, depending on what you like more good or less good ... - 5167A Aquanaut from the AD if you are ready to wait some... and then some... - Midsize steel gold 3800 Nautilus or quarz 5064 and automatic 5066 Aquanauts - 5110J Worldtime if you are ready to add a few grand... No offense intended, but trying to replace one Patek w another Patek in the same limited price range w/o lusting for a specific piece appears a little strange. How does it fit into your Cartier/Gondolo thread from 1 or 2 days ago? Why not just sell the 5035J and take your time until you find sth you really love?

30 May 2019, 12:09 AM	#6
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,258	The 5035 is a piece that I believe has a ton of upside potential. One actually recently sold at auction a few weeks ago at Sotheby's for $32,000 and Govberg has one listed up for $23,500 without B&P. That watch is probably the best bang per buck Patek you can get at that price range so I think you'll have a hard time replacing it for something of equal quality without putting in some extra coin.

30 May 2019, 12:57 AM	#8
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,218	I'd look at Lange, lots of serious watches in your budget.

30 May 2019, 12:43 PM	#11
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	With that budget, I'd keep what you have.

31 May 2019, 09:43 AM	#15
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Did $15k to your 5035 and get a platinum datograph. No dealer would refuse that offer. Edit: actually start at $10k. It’s a Dato after all. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

5 June 2019, 03:27 AM	#16
Mr.Rolex1 Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Mike Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Submariner Posts: 1,197	You could consider selling 5035J & 5296G for a vintage calatrava and 5110j Do you really wear the Calatrava that much?

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