Help me choose the right Grand Seiko

[jag32]

I’ve been obsessing over GS the past week and NEED to buy one. My favorite GS is the SBGE211 GMT but it doesn’t have illuminated hands. I’ve spent countless hours reading reviews, watching videos, drooling on the GS website. They are unbelievable watches and I truly do “get it” now as a Patek/AP/VC guy.

My criteria I am looking for:

GMT complication
Stainless bracelet
Illuminated hands

What GS would you guys recommend?

[Cru Jones]

I personally would skip lume with GS in order to fully enjoy the beautiful finishing throughout the hands. Also, the models with lume are very sporty, and I prefer a little less intense look for Grand Seiko.

The recently announced LE, the SBGE249, could be one to consider, unless lume really is a 100% necessity for you.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=687806

[pickettt]

SBGE245 has all of your requirements and is a nice piece. It’s not my style, but it checks your boxes.

[jag32]

The Lume is pretty important to me on this piece.

[jag32]

Originally Posted by pickettt

SBGE245 has all of your requirements and is a nice piece. It’s not my style, but it checks your boxes.

That is quite nice and does check all my boxes, but the maroon colored dial is unattractive to me unfortunately! Do they produce this with a black or silver dial by chance?

[jag32]

So I found the SBGE201 which appears to have everything I’m looking for, thoughts on it?

https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/sbge201g

[Locust]

someone say Lume?


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[Locust]

How bout this guy?


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[subtona]

Sbgr305

None of what you are asking for but a super cool GS, imho worth looking at and considering.

[Locust]

Basically yes to your question. Sbge201, sbge248, or sbge245. Should be perfect for your first.

[Gotemandrew]

The SBGE245 is a really good watch, it would be my pick.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by Locust

Basically yes to your question. Sbge201, sbge248, or sbge245. Should be perfect for your first.

Or the LE SBGE021 or 29, if one of the 150/100 made can be found.
SBGE015/215, if gold hands are appealing… or the even rarer 30 pieces 241.

Oh, look what I found!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=673666

And for something not quite as big, the 200 pieces SBGE033

[jag32]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Or the LE SBGE021 or 29, if one of the 150/100 made can be found.
SBGE015, if gold hands are appealing… or the even rarer 30 pieces 241.

Oh, look what I found!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=673666

And for something not quite as big, the 200 pieces SBGE033

Amazing. Just sent him a PM

[jag32]

The SBGE248 is amazing and so unique!!! Just don’t know if I can justify paying $11k for a GS though.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by jag32

So I found the SBGE201 which appears to have everything I’m looking for, thoughts on it?

https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/sbge201g

BIg and thick watch ... for me I love the GS that are 41mm or smaller . This is just huge for a gmt IMO


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[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by PJ S

And for something not quite as big, the 200 pieces SBGE033

Yes. Grand Seiko - we need more of this.

[yoniman]

Originally Posted by jag32

The SBGE248 is amazing and so unique!!! Just don’t know if I can justify paying $11k for a GS though.

This just made my Bluesy blue.
Can't deny. This is gorgeous. What more in the wild?

Cheers

[jag32]

Originally Posted by yoniman

This just made my Bluesy blue.
Can't deny. This is gorgeous. What more in the wild?

Cheers

The SBGE248 appears identical to the SBGE245 just with gold accent on the dial. Is this really worth the $11,500 price tag for the 248 when a 245 can be had for around $5,000?? I love it just not the price.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by jag32

The SBGE248 appears identical to the SBGE245 just with gold accent on the dial. Is this really worth the $11,500 price tag for the 248 when a 245 can be had for around $5,000?? I love it just not the price.

Totally agree. They upped it 5k for No reason

[SUPERDOC]

Originally Posted by Locust

Totally agree. They upped it 5k for No reason

As much as I love GS... I have to agree here... if the gold extended into the bracelet I could accept the price.

But this seems a bit too much for the amount of gold provided...

[jag32]

Originally Posted by SUPERDOC

As much as I love GS... I have to agree here... if the gold extended into the bracelet I could accept the price.

But this seems a bit too much for the amount of gold provided...

I think their pricing will be a catastrophic mistake resulting in low sales numbers. I expect to see this on the gray market in unworn condition for maybe 8-9k. I would pay 8k but definitely not 11.5.

[jcarm981]

I was wondering the same thing. Feels like they over extended a bit on that price point.

[SUPERDOC]

totally agree.. which hurts brand Image -

Why not price it somewhat low... have it evaporate, and then command a premium on the secondary market ... if the priced at 7k, immediately sold out, then showed up at 8-9 k on the grey market - it would get its fair market value, and the GS brand would be buoyed by the idea of "value retention" and "investment potential" - a potential loss in some revenue - but sometimes a "loss leader" is a fair sacrifice for the long term betterment of the brand...