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Old 19 March 2023, 09:14 AM   #1
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Vacheron Boutique at SCP - Mgt change?

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I heard the entire team was fired recently for potential gray market crap. Anyone have any insight?
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Old 19 March 2023, 09:37 AM   #2
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From what I heard it wasn't grey market..... But I know they were cleared out the moment management at Richemont found out. Was very sudden from what my friends told me across the way watching them.
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Old 19 March 2023, 11:01 AM   #3
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I’d be shocked if quid pro quo wasn’t the norm at half these retail outlets for various brands. Good on richemont for sending them packing.
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Old 21 March 2023, 11:01 AM   #4
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I am sure there are enough people here got empty promise - if they buy this watch, they get this allocation. When Richemont got enough complaints, things exploded.

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Old 21 March 2023, 11:36 AM   #5
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I am sure there are enough people here got empty promise - if they buy this watch, they get this allocation. When Richemont got enough complaints, things exploded.

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Same. "If you want the 222, you need to buy XYZ and I can deliver it in 6 months instead of 3-5 years."
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Old 22 March 2023, 01:58 PM   #6
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So who's applying?

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Old 22 March 2023, 06:02 PM   #7
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Honestly I'm not surprised, my purchase experience with them was less than stellar and it left a bad taste in my mouth. A true shame considering they are so high up on the Richemont ladder. I'm glad they actually did something about it. Head over to ALS to experience what service should be. Piaget and Chopard knock it out of the park as well.
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Old 22 March 2023, 08:38 PM   #8
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Very amusing. Now that the economy is slowing down they all of a sudden care about this type of nonsense. I remember inquiring about an Overseas about 4 years ago and the Richmont AD telling me that to get my name on the list I had to spend at least $15k. This was supposedly VC’s rules. When I reached out to someone high up the VC chain I was told that is not the case and that Richmont AD moved on about its business. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy anything from them again
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Old 23 March 2023, 12:47 PM   #9
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Same thing happened to AP last year at SCP
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Old 23 March 2023, 01:06 PM   #10
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Very amusing. Now that the economy is slowing down they all of a sudden care about this type of nonsense. I remember inquiring about an Overseas about 4 years ago and the Richmont AD telling me that to get my name on the list I had to spend at least $15k. This was supposedly VC’s rules. When I reached out to someone high up the VC chain I was told that is not the case and that Richmont AD moved on about its business. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy anything from them again
I got an orange strap and a white strap from the boutique but no watches. My buddy received 3 overseas (4500v blue, 5500v black, and 7900v blue) and we both approached SCP at roughly the same time.
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Old 23 March 2023, 03:53 PM   #11
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I got an orange strap and a white strap from the boutique but no watches. My buddy received 3 overseas (4500v blue, 5500v black, and 7900v blue) and we both approached SCP at roughly the same time.
That orange rubber strap is more rare than the overseas itself! 😂
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Old 23 March 2023, 04:04 PM   #12
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That orange rubber strap is more rare than the overseas itself!

It’s soo easy to get


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Old 23 March 2023, 10:32 PM   #13
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Oh really? Thought at one point it was limited to only 100 worldwide. I'll have to reach out and reintroduce since the entire staff is different now.
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Old 23 March 2023, 11:33 PM   #14
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Try the Vangerai straps and call it a day. Quality isn’t bad and they have all different color rubber straps.
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Old 24 March 2023, 06:33 AM   #15
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Same thing happened to AP last year at SCP
I heard someone took in a total of 1 million in bribe..and fled back to Asia. What law did she actually break?

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I heard someone took in a total of 1 million in bribe..and fled back to Asia. What law did she actually break?

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Old 24 March 2023, 10:51 AM   #17
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Wow. Very interesting! I was in there a weekend before last and didn't recognize any of the people there, I guess this would explain it.

I put my name in there for a FiftySix boutique edition about a year and half ago and then put my name in at the Beverly Hills boutique for the same watch in July. I got the call from Beverly Hills in December, but never heard a peep from SCP.
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Old 24 March 2023, 01:19 PM   #18
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I’m curious, which fiftysix is a boutique edition?
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Old 24 March 2023, 01:25 PM   #19
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I’m curious, which fiftysix is a boutique edition?
The blue dial on bracelet is only available at boutiques. (Link)
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Old 24 March 2023, 01:26 PM   #20
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Probably my girl. She ghosted me
either she is now working in Tiffany downstairs or she is in Asia. I heard it's the boutique director that fled.

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Old 24 March 2023, 02:24 PM   #21
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I heard someone took in a total of 1 million in bribe..and fled back to Asia. What law did she actually break?

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Does her name start with an S?
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Old 24 March 2023, 02:25 PM   #22
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either she is now working in Tiffany downstairs or she is in Asia. I heard it's the boutique director that fled.

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What happened to Brad? Is he still there?
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Old 24 March 2023, 02:31 PM   #23
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I think there has been some changes in the NYC boutique as well.

I finally got the call on my Overseas time-only black dial. Wears like a charm.
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Old 24 March 2023, 02:38 PM   #24
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all these people did it to themselves. Taking advantages of people. Not to give a break to who offered the bribes, hope Richemont banned them too, even if it was not the customer idea to begin with. What do you think?

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Old 24 March 2023, 05:36 PM   #25
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I feel this quickly became a wide-spread problem also over in Hong Kong. I'm a repeat customer that stood on the waitlist for a long time for a 4500v silver, so not a overly popular watch. I know for a fact they have got allocation of the specific watch and people that turned down their allocation, still no call to me. They are giving out the watches to their friends, the list is no longer a list.

The sales guy I talk to last time I was there hinted it would help if I had an important business card, senior enough and famous company. Why the f**k should that matter, I'm already an exisiting VC customer!? Give me my freaking watch, I get worked up just writing about this. It's gone to the point now that I don't want a VC from them anymore, I'm sure they call when they watches go below list in Grey, then their "friends" don't want them anymore.. ..jeez. Ok I'm done blowing off steam :)
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Old 24 March 2023, 07:51 PM   #26
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I feel this quickly became a wide-spread problem also over in Hong Kong. I'm a repeat customer that stood on the waitlist for a long time for a 4500v silver, so not a overly popular watch. I know for a fact they have got allocation of the specific watch and people that turned down their allocation, still no call to me. They are giving out the watches to their friends, the list is no longer a list.

The sales guy I talk to last time I was there hinted it would help if I had an important business card, senior enough and famous company. Why the f**k should that matter, I'm already an exisiting VC customer!? Give me my freaking watch, I get worked up just writing about this. It's gone to the point now that I don't want a VC from them anymore, I'm sure they call when they watches go below list in Grey, then their "friends" don't want them anymore.. ..jeez. Ok I'm done blowing off steam :)
You should report this possible nepotism activity to Richemont HQ in Geneva. Not Hong Kong HQ.

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Does her name start with an S?

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I think there has been some changes in the NYC boutique as well.

I finally got the call on my Overseas time-only black dial. Wears like a charm.
That’s also what I’ve heard. I wonder what happened. The folks there are great.

Congrats on the Overseas!
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That’s also what I’ve heard. I wonder what happened. The folks there are great.

Congrats on the Overseas!

Was this recent? The people I’ve worked with there have seemed upstanding…
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Old 25 March 2023, 03:03 AM   #30
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Stories like this just make me angry. I get it, there is no right to buy a luxury watch. But if bribes were taken, whether a direct bribe, or a "subtle bribe" such as "buy this amount and I'll get you one", it just feels slimy and dirty to the point I figure why even bother.

The rich and powerful will always get theirs first I suppose, but man, if society can't even throw a single bone to the regular guy from time-to-time.
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