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19 June 2018, 10:10 AM | #1 |
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I would like to know how to check the authenticity of my Rolex GMT Master II just by the casing or serial number. I suspect that the watch I bought is false but the seller is claiming that I changed the clock machine while keeping the casing casing. I'm in big trouble! |
19 June 2018, 10:12 AM | #2 |
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I don't think that you are in big trouble. If you were sold a counterfeit product then the seller is in big trouble. Notify the authorities.
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19 June 2018, 10:14 AM | #3 |
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I see you are from the country...
Well, in your case you should call Rolex Brasil in São Paulo. They won't give you info by just telling them the S/N. They are going to ask you to take the watch there to verify it, along with the S/N. There, they can say if it's a Fake or Stolen... Either cases, they will keep the watch there and won't give it back to you !
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This one is tough OP.
I understand the dilemma. The problem is that the OP doesn’t know if he was sold a fake watch, or if it was real and the watchmaker swapped the movement, and now it is fake. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
19 June 2018, 12:06 PM | #6 |
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This is a valuable lesson. Unless you 100% trust the watchmaker, you stay there while he takes the case back off so you can see the movement. Then you make him show you the movement when you pick it up.
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19 June 2018, 01:08 PM | #8 |
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all the GMT Master II have the model written in green?? Below are pictures of my watch, if you can take a look, I thank you.
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Yes, I clearly see your problems.
The seller said the case was good but the movement was fake?
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Any pix of the movement?
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19 June 2018, 01:15 PM | #11 |
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Sorry looks fake
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19 June 2018, 02:11 PM | #15 |
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Looks like a bad fake and not just the 'movement'. Take the watch to another AD or Rolex watchmaker. Get a 2nd opinion. I see so many issues with that dial and those hands.
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Looks fake. Hands are too short, inconsistent thickness of font on bezel, doesn’t have green text for “GMT Master II”... green sticker on the caseback could be there aftermarket but is not era correct for 6 digit references.
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Hot Mess..........
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No, everything about that watch is fake, including the bracelet and case. Go to the authorities and let them sort out who is being honest or not.
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19 June 2018, 06:30 PM | #19 |
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Sorry to say, but nothing about that watch is real. Looks like you have been scammed. I’m in no doubt.
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19 June 2018, 06:49 PM | #20 |
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Like others have said, everything about that watch is fake .. There was nothing real about it .. There were no real parts swapped with fake parts .. You really need to go to athorities and file a complaint because you you taken
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19 June 2018, 08:35 PM | #21 |
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Terrible trash. Not even remotely close to authentic.
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19 June 2018, 09:50 PM | #22 |
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Looks like a very bad fake. How much you paid for it and expected it to be genuine? $100? lmao
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19 June 2018, 10:42 PM | #23 |
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Disaster.
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19 June 2018, 11:41 PM | #24 |
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Who did you buy this from?
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not looking good sorry. How much did you pay?
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20 June 2018, 01:08 AM | #26 |
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Hope OP paid with CC or PayPal, otherwise its an expensive(?) lesson. Also choose a different watchmaker next time for your appraisals. Crazy
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20 June 2018, 01:36 AM | #27 |
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The state of the lugs would have been enough to put me off.
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20 June 2018, 03:41 AM | #28 |
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Friends, one more question:
Does the bezel turn on two sides? Or just counterclockwise? |
20 June 2018, 04:32 AM | #29 |
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Who did you buy this from?
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20 June 2018, 05:11 AM | #30 |
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I bought from ''friend''. It is a used watche. I payed ~ $8000 US. I already contacted the police, and, it will resolve nothing, because no ones assumes the blame and, I am in Brazil!!!! Fucked country! The police said me to try resolves by myself...
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