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74porsche914 · 7 September 2021, 12:35 PM

Recently purchased this gorgeous Tudor submariner 79190 from a watch show. Watch has box and punched papers which match the case accordingly. Papers dated 5/97 with serial B93XXXX. I did notice one thing however that concerned me. I’ve never seen another black bezel Tudor sub that had the white gold Lume dial indices. I’ve only seen the steel polished bezel version with these dial indices. Could something have been swapped? Or could this be correct? Thanks in advance. Pics attached

alwayshere · 7 September 2021, 01:34 PM

you talking about the lume pip / dot at 12 o clock on the bezel insert?

Without going into checking what version of the insert that is, that looks like the correct acrylic pearl. I think its just a reflection / angle. It should be clear with luminous material within the pearl. No metal surrounding it.

74porsche914 · 7 September 2021, 01:48 PM

Sorry to be confusing. I was referring to the white gold indices that hold the lume on the dial. With extensive googling I've only seen this dial with the polished steel bezel. I haven't seen this dial with the black bezel.

alwayshere · 7 September 2021, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 74porsche914

Sorry to be confusing. I was referring to the white gold indices that hold the lume on the dial. With extensive googling I've only seen this dial with the polished steel bezel. I haven't seen this dial with the black bezel.

understood now your question.

hmmm does appear that way. Black bezel / Blue bezel generally with the matte dial not WG.

linesiders · 7 September 2021, 09:32 PM

This is a service dial, not the original dial.

mineral · 8 September 2021, 03:10 AM

Swapping out insert is common. Based on my initial views on your photos. Your 79190 looks perfectly fine :) the bezel font is correct too for that serial.

Just my personal opinion, Tudor did make this serial with blue, black and polished bezel. While the blue and polished bezel are more commonly seen. The black is correct too. Again just my opinion. Stand to be corrected ..

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74porsche914 · 3 January 2022, 02:51 AM

Appreciate all the help!! I actually quite WG service dial

A2-rolex · 3 January 2022, 03:11 AM

awesome watch! congrats :)

thelinendial · 2 February 2023, 07:29 AM

Hi, very very old thread but hoping the OP might answer.

Did you paper describe this with a black dial too?

As far as I know, Tudor originally released the 79190 with your dial (gold surround) only with a steel bezel in their last run.

I actually really like the configuration and was thinking how I could go about doing the same.

thelinendial · 2 February 2023, 07:54 AM

Here's my research so far. I've not found out definitively when the gold surround was added to the dial.

Tudor released the 79190 in 1995 and it came with a black bezel and matte indices.

Then in 1997 changed to polished steel bezel inserts.

7 September 2021, 09:32 PM	#5
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8 September 2021, 03:10 AM	#6
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	Swapping out insert is common. Based on my initial views on your photos. Your 79190 looks perfectly fine :) the bezel font is correct too for that serial. Just my personal opinion, Tudor did make this serial with blue, black and polished bezel. While the blue and polished bezel are more commonly seen. The black is correct too. Again just my opinion. Stand to be corrected .. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

7 September 2021, 01:34 PM	#2
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,511	you talking about the lume pip / dot at 12 o clock on the bezel insert? Without going into checking what version of the insert that is, that looks like the correct acrylic pearl. I think its just a reflection / angle. It should be clear with luminous material within the pearl. No metal surrounding it.

7 September 2021, 01:48 PM	#3
74porsche914 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Highland Park, IL Posts: 26	Sorry to be confusing. I was referring to the white gold indices that hold the lume on the dial. With extensive googling I've only seen this dial with the polished steel bezel. I haven't seen this dial with the black bezel.

3 January 2022, 02:51 AM	#7
74porsche914 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Highland Park, IL Posts: 26	Appreciate all the help!! I actually quite WG service dial

3 January 2022, 03:11 AM	#8
A2-rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: N/A Posts: 47	awesome watch! congrats :)

2 February 2023, 07:29 AM	#9
thelinendial "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Markham Posts: 15	Hi, very very old thread but hoping the OP might answer. Did you paper describe this with a black dial too? As far as I know, Tudor originally released the 79190 with your dial (gold surround) only with a steel bezel in their last run. I actually really like the configuration and was thinking how I could go about doing the same.

2 February 2023, 07:54 AM	#10
thelinendial "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Markham Posts: 15	Here's my research so far. I've not found out definitively when the gold surround was added to the dial. Tudor released the 79190 in 1995 and it came with a black bezel and matte indices. Then in 1997 changed to polished steel bezel inserts.

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