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Old 4 February 2023, 07:05 AM   #3091
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I question how they leave the hands of whoever is selling them with the stickers on...?

When I received mine, my SA had all the stickers and the plastic shell already removed.
I didn't ask to keep them either but it would certainly have raised eyebrows if I HAD told them that is rather take the full watch with all stickers out the store...
I guess they could have fake ones on them, no? Don't seem too hard to replicate.
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Old 4 February 2023, 08:07 AM   #3092
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Nah. The seller is very reputable. Hes been selling for a long time. Hes not going to last in business if he has stolen watch or if he doesnt standby his product.
That guy seems to be the king of naked watches. I would venture to say 35-40% of his posts are of naked watches.
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Old 4 February 2023, 08:35 AM   #3093
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Black 15500 fullset mint went for 33k on Loupe This. Lowest I’ve seen it on a mainstream grey/auction channel.

This exact configuration sold in May ‘22 on the same site for 58.3k.
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Old 4 February 2023, 08:38 AM   #3094
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Black 15500 fullset mint went for 33k on Loupe This. Lowest Iíve seen it on a mainstream grey/auction channel.

This exact configuration sold in May Ď22 on the same site for 58.3k.
Haha Vince donít do this to me ó now I have another site to watch (instead of getting work done) lol.
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Old 4 February 2023, 08:42 AM   #3095
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Haha Vince donít do this to me ó now I have another site to watch (instead of getting work done) lol.
Haha! Thankfully their volume is quite low. Pretty easy to track
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Old 4 February 2023, 10:27 AM   #3096
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Haha! Thankfully their volume is quite low. Pretty easy to track

Vince what are you seeing VTNR gmt going for? (Iím not on Facebook mode etc)


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Old 4 February 2023, 11:08 AM   #3097
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Vince what are you seeing VTNR gmt going for? (Iím not on Facebook mode etc)


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GGMT I saw one the other day on MODA for around $22k. Can't recall if it sold or not.
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Old 4 February 2023, 11:11 AM   #3098
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GGMT I saw one the other day on MODA for around $22k. Can't recall if it sold or not.
This guy here has 4 listings on TRF priced below market. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=889503

VTNR listed for $21K.

It could be a legitimate seller, but doesn’t look right. All pieces new or like new.
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Old 4 February 2023, 11:14 AM   #3099
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never put anything past anyone.
That is why you always do reference check so you got something to fall back but i doubt that guy sells stolen watch.
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Old 4 February 2023, 11:47 AM   #3100
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This guy here has 4 listings on TRF priced below market. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=889503

VTNR listed for $21K.

It could be a legitimate seller, but doesnít look right. All pieces new or like new.

VTNR have moved quickly in 22.9 range. Probably worth looking into.
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Old 4 February 2023, 12:04 PM   #3101
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Decline for AP continues. Even on this forum Code11.59 Chrono is now advertised for 39k. Thats literally 15k off MSRP prior to tax

Wonder how quickly this will relay to declines on ROO... Still waiting for my turn but not at close to 60k after tax retail
The code was always selling below MSRP by a significant amount. Even at the height of the hype.

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Good idea. I'm gonna tell him to join MODA. Not sure though dont you need like to be trusted on there to list an actual sale? Or anyone can list on there?

I joined MODA a long long time ago but never sold anything on there.
Go consign with luxury bazaar, TPT, or watch Eric. They are all good guys. He'll get it sold at market price with little drama and relatively quick.
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Old 4 February 2023, 12:35 PM   #3102
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Black 15500 fullset mint went for 33k on Loupe This. Lowest Iíve seen it on a mainstream grey/auction channel.

This exact configuration sold in May Ď22 on the same site for 58.3k.
Loupe this does have a 10% buyer premium so that would get it closer to other pricing.
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Old 4 February 2023, 12:55 PM   #3103
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Loupe this does have a 10% buyer premium so that would get it closer to other pricing.
just for clarification. the final price reported by loupe this includes the 10% buyer's premium. go to results and click on bid history. you'll see the final
sales price is 10% higher than the highest bid.
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Old 4 February 2023, 01:08 PM   #3104
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Loupe this does have a 10% buyer premium so that would get it closer to other pricing.
Wrong

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just for clarification. the final price reported by loupe this includes the 10% buyer's premium. go to results and click on bid history. you'll see the final
sales price is 10% higher than the highest bid.
Yes
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Old 4 February 2023, 05:47 PM   #3105
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Rose gold rubber clad ROO fullset listed for $29.5k. Crazy for a gold ROO. Lowest Iíve seen.

And when you think these were in the low 20ís a just few years ago, like 2019-2020Ö should have grabbed one at the time.


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Old 4 February 2023, 07:31 PM   #3106
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And when you think these were in the low 20ís a just few years ago, like 2019-2020Ö should have grabbed one at the time.


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As were the 15500s (except blue at 29-31). Pretty good deal if it comes back.
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Old 4 February 2023, 08:56 PM   #3107
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This guy here has 4 listings on TRF priced below market. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=889503

VTNR listed for $21K.

It could be a legitimate seller, but doesnít look right. All pieces new or like new.
Well, you could have a middleman from Moda do the verification and release payment after that. Or you could fly to Ukraine and pick it up :P

It looks like some of their listings have their nick written in them, but this piece selling for 16k uses the same pics as Faizan's BLRO sold at 19k in late Dec

Unless Faizan can confirm he sold it to them, I would proceed with caution

Edit: Seriously though, mods. With the amount of scam checking tike71 and I do, you should probably give us a free pledge membership
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Old 5 February 2023, 01:30 AM   #3108
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That is a total scam. ^^^
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Old 5 February 2023, 02:15 AM   #3109
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Well, you could have a middleman from Moda do the verification and release payment after that. Or you could fly to Ukraine and pick it up :P

It looks like some of their listings have their nick written in them, but this piece selling for 16k uses the same pics as Faizan's BLRO sold at 19k in late Dec

Unless Faizan can confirm he sold it to them, I would proceed with caution

Edit: Seriously though, mods. With the amount of scam checking tike71 and I do, you should probably give us a free pledge membership

Anyone push red flag on these? I easily passed over these because they were obviously under priced and sitting, but I couldnít confirm scam.


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Total scam. Another good catch brother. You are the man
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Old 5 February 2023, 02:47 AM   #3111
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There wasn't much doubt, but Faizan has confirmed in PM that it's not his buyer. Reported.
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Old 5 February 2023, 03:12 AM   #3112
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Well, you could have a middleman from Moda do the verification and release payment after that. Or you could fly to Ukraine and pick it up :P

It looks like some of their listings have their nick written in them, but this piece selling for 16k uses the same pics as Faizan's BLRO sold at 19k in late Dec

Unless Faizan can confirm he sold it to them, I would proceed with caution

Edit: Seriously though, mods. With the amount of scam checking tike71 and I do, you should probably give us a free pledge membership

Mods finally got it lol. They doin spot check now after you called it out


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Old 5 February 2023, 03:51 AM   #3113
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Maybe I can build a bot to automate this
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Old 5 February 2023, 04:39 AM   #3114
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Well, you could have a middleman from Moda do the verification and release payment after that. Or you could fly to Ukraine and pick it up :P

It looks like some of their listings have their nick written in them, but this piece selling for 16k uses the same pics as Faizan's BLRO sold at 19k in late Dec

Unless Faizan can confirm he sold it to them, I would proceed with caution

Edit: Seriously though, mods. With the amount of scam checking tike71 and I do, you should probably give us a free pledge membership
Listings are still up DESOMOJI is the seller. Thatís why I initially posted these.
Doesnít look right.
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Old 5 February 2023, 05:28 AM   #3115
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Listings are still up DESOMOJI is the seller. Thatís why I initially posted these.
Doesnít look right.
ANd desimoji already loggd in and saw it and didnt do amnything. Total scam
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Old 6 February 2023, 03:34 AM   #3116
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghfCn23TRwk


Eric is probably my favorite YT watch guy. But I think he is being overly optimistic on this one. Lol the fact he spent all of 30 seconds on Royal Oaks shows you exactly where they are headed price wise.
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Old 6 February 2023, 03:54 AM   #3117
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Eric is probably my favorite YT watch guy. But I think he is being overly optimistic on this one. Lol the fact he spent all of 30 seconds on Royal Oaks shows you exactly where they are headed price wise.
100% heís my favorite too as he keeps it realer than most.

But itís very clear that heís feeling some pain now. Idk if you guys follow him on IG, but heís been posting a lot more items ďfor saleĒ and ďdealsĒ, and the sense of desperation is quite salient.

I wish him the best though - seems like a super cool guy and the best watch personality imo.
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Old 6 February 2023, 04:31 AM   #3118
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I watched this one also, I was thinking the same thing. He's being pretty optimistic I think we have yet to hit the bottom.
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Old 6 February 2023, 04:53 AM   #3119
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I watched this one also, I was thinking the same thing. He's being pretty optimistic I think we have yet to hit the bottom.
Rolex I could see coming up a little bit the last couple of weeks (whether that is real or artificial is a different matter) but ROs are tanking.
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Rolex I could see coming up a little bit the last couple of weeks (whether that is real or artificial is a different matter) but ROs are tanking.
Re: Rolex. Yea Iíve seen asking prices creep up, but theyíre still only moving at their previous sales price.

Royal oaks - they are falling with no tested bottom. Itís clear that thereís way more runway to goÖ
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