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22 October 2019, 12:32 AM | #123 |
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No one wears suits anymore buddy
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22 October 2019, 01:00 AM | #127 |
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22 October 2019, 01:06 AM | #129 |
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22 October 2019, 01:35 AM | #130 | |
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22 October 2019, 03:06 PM | #131 |
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And no one wear Reebok shoe now days..lol....
That is so 80s.......
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23 October 2019, 06:36 PM | #132 |
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I have been on the waiting list for a 5711 with an AD for nearly 3 years. Called in for a chat about how things are progressing and I was told that if I buy any non-allocation PP watch, my chances of getting the 5711 within the next ~12 months would be excellent, compared to my current position of 'you're on the list, but big collectors/spenders take priority'. I have no purchase history with this AD, but we get on great and I am local. I tried on a lot of dress watches. Only a perpetual calendar (5140-P-017) really sang to me, but it is a lot more than I would like to spend on/have money in watches for the next few years at least. I also looked at a World Time on White Gold and annual calendars in rose. Nice pieces, but I am not keen to buy either these or the perpetual at full MSRP.
Hence I ask you guys, A) would you consider this? and B) If so, should I be asking for and getting good discount (how much?), even with the 'promise' of the 5711 (my grail). Thanks! Forgive me if I should have started a new thread here. |
23 October 2019, 06:59 PM | #133 |
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you can buy the WT, see it at a loss and add that on to the price tag of the 5711. then you know whether it works for you or not.
or you sell the 5711 and get the WT almost for free:::))) |
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23 October 2019, 07:41 PM | #135 | |
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Here in the Us every AD basically says they cannot sell u a 5711 without prior purchase history... |
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23 October 2019, 07:46 PM | #136 | |
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23 October 2019, 07:54 PM | #137 | |
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23 October 2019, 08:01 PM | #138 |
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Really appreciate your insights - thanks. I did get on the 'list' 3 years ago (which closed officially a month later), before everything got as crazy as it is now. I actually wanted to buy what I liked - a 5711. Hence I don't think I would be waiting 150 years! But I do take your point it could be a longer wait than most people want. Russell, on principle I may take your advice, as £38K or more on a watch that is a gateway purchase is a bit much. I was also thinking if the market drops significantly, through global downturn, we might see wait lists shrink a bit. PS If I did get a 5711 I can't see me ever selling it, even for a large profit.
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23 October 2019, 08:03 PM | #140 |
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I’ll give u alternative advice... wait for the prices to drop and buy it from a grey dealer. Buying it from a AD only if you plan on buying a lot more watches... it’s a commitment. If u can buy it from a multi brand AD.
The mark-up is just the price of access, u would lose that much investing in the relationship unless u love dress watches.. cause they are so cool. |
23 October 2019, 08:05 PM | #141 | |
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Hopefully this won't depress you but as many on the forum know I waited 8 years for my first PP. |
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23 October 2019, 08:06 PM | #142 |
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23 October 2019, 08:08 PM | #143 | |
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23 October 2019, 09:00 PM | #144 |
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I guess I am lucky because I think dress watches, like my recent purchase of a 5205G-013, are absolutely gorgeous and to me are almost as desirable as the 5711. I did ask them to put me on a “5711 list,” whatever that means, and content to wait. The anticipation makes the reward all that much better. If grey prices get close to parity then simple to pull the ripcord and jump to grey. My preference is AD however.
Btw...what really is the “list?” An official document sent to Patek, or a napkin in a drawer at the AD? |
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Over here at SEA, the Patek agent (GMT) gives the AD full discretion to allocate their watches. It is very unlikely for new applicants to receive hot watches without any history. |
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23 October 2019, 09:27 PM | #146 |
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congrats on your stamina. i waited three months on my first nauti from my AD some two years back and thought that was long.
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23 October 2019, 09:28 PM | #147 | |
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23 October 2019, 09:28 PM | #148 |
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I was never interested in the Nautilus.
I bought a 5170, a 5205, a 5270, and only then casually asked about their "cheapest" Nautilus the 5711. Given that was "only" £18k at the time and not much more than a RG Daytona, I said, "sure, if you have one, I'll take it." It came about a year later by which time I'd bought a 5146 as well. I'd forgotten about it. That's probably why I got one. The AD knows me and knows that I couldn't care less about the hype/flipping etc. That's the thing, I believe PP is actually, truly, really about their dress watches. That's where their skills really come to life and I find it surprising how people can get into their sports watches but not get into PP's true calling. Sports watches, by being big and brash, lend themselves better to status signalling - especially amongst the un-initated. In the Instaloser/Facebrat world we live in, that's what people want. A 5327 PC is far too subtle. I find it AMAZING that people would rather have a 5711 than a 5070. My mind boggles. Sign of the times. |
23 October 2019, 09:30 PM | #149 |
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It’s that age old debate of changing trends ... people are less formal. When Goldman Sachs shifts from suit and tie to a business casual policy. U know dress watches are marked for death.
Case in point I wear shorts to work...no I’m not an IT guy |
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It's what so many dealers actually report. |
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