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Daniel Tan · 24 January 2012, 05:37 PM

Why a COSC certified watch like Rolex doesn't come with its CERTIFICATE when we purchase the Rolex watch? Why institute of COSC of Swiss wanna keep it instead of giving it to us? Can we request it from Rolex of Swiss?

Andad · 24 January 2012, 05:39 PM

You can request it but you won't get it Daniel.

I only represents the testing of the bare movement and proves that it is capable of meeting the COSC standard.
The important thing is how it runs on YOUR wrist IMO.

Passionata · 24 January 2012, 05:58 PM

In case omega you can have it ,they require a pic of your WCard and CHF 100 than you get it by post.i m just a mid of a purchase,lots if momey but i think fun to have it.

padi56 · 24 January 2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Tan

Why a COSC certified watch like Rolex doesn't come with its CERTIFICATE when we purchase the Rolex watch? Why institute of COSC of Swiss wanna keep it instead of giving it to us? Can we request it from Rolex of Swiss?

At one time you used to have a paper certificate but now all movement results for pass or fail are on computer.All the COSC test is that a bare uncased movement has passed the test at the time of testing only nothing more.And today most movements could if regulated correctly could pass the COSC test today.

The European Din standard for chronometers are to a higher standard than the Swiss COSC standard below is the copy of the German Din certificate for my Dreadnought watch,a Timefactors watch that cost then just £400 as you can see +0.4 seconds a day,not bad for a so called humble ETA 2824-T2 movement,less than half a second a day and still the same today after several years of hard wearing.

chronoman · 25 January 2012, 12:27 AM

Theorhetically, Rolex could not print "chronometer" on the dial if the movement was not COSC certified.

I always pretty much thought my certificate was printed on the dial.

azguy · 25 January 2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chronoman

Theorhetically, Rolex could not print "chronometer" on the dial if the movement was not COSC certified.

I always pretty much thought my certificate was printed on the dial.

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dddrees · 25 January 2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chronoman

Theorhetically, Rolex could not print "chronometer" on the dial if the movement was not COSC certified.

I always pretty much thought my certificate was printed on the dial.

Besides you can't wear a piece of paper, and typically all my stuff besides the watch just gets stored away in the closet anyways.

SS Oyster · 25 January 2012, 02:29 AM

It's Rolex ... it's in there.

Lion · 25 January 2012, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chronoman

Theorhetically, Rolex could not print "chronometer" on the dial if the movement was not COSC certified.

I always pretty much thought my certificate was printed on the dial.

Yup...as stated it's printed on the dial of your watch!!!

bayerische · 25 January 2012, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by azguy

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Daniel Tan · 25 January 2012, 08:01 PM

I see.... Thanks

bradbyrd1110 · 29 April 2012, 10:03 AM

I got mine from Omega for my PO. Looks cool, but can't understand some of it. It's just cool to have. I had to contact Omega by email, provide my proof of purchase, blah blah, pay them $100, now it sits in my closet. So, unless you just really want it to show it to everybody, don't waste your money.

SSG215 · 29 April 2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chronoman

Theorhetically, Rolex could not print "chronometer" on the dial if the movement was not COSC certified.

I always pretty much thought my certificate was printed on the dial.

X15000000

gwalker · 29 April 2012, 02:23 PM

Why would you pay $100 for a peice of paper???? I guess I'm confused but the dial and hang tag give me all I need to know.

padi56 · 29 April 2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gwalker

Why would you pay $100 for a peice of paper???? I guess I'm confused but the dial and hang tag give me all I need to know.

For the same reason that some pay for things like plastic bezel protectors,case back stickers,hang tags, boxes etc they must have more money than sense.

cosc · 29 April 2012, 06:35 PM

... provide a copy of it. I'm thinking about Breitling since I own one which came with some sort of certificate from COSC (can't access the box right now). It has also 'chronometer' printed on the dial. As useless as having the certificate is, I think it would be a nice detail from the marketing point of view.

padi56 · 29 April 2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cosc

... provide a copy of it. I'm thinking about Breitling since I own one which came with some sort of certificate from COSC (can't access the box right now). It has also 'chronometer' printed on the dial. As useless as having the certificate is, I think it would be a nice detail from the marketing point of view.

But other brands don't test the sheer volume that Rolex does,its just a bit of paper nothing more.The red chronometer tag is the certification plus its written on the dial.The COSC test is only to state that the bare uncased movement has been tested, and certification is at the time of testing.There is no guarantee the movement will perform to the COSC indefinitely.And I am sure if Rolex did produce a certificate many would be looking for the ones that say returned +2 seconds or less, and rejecting one that say returned +4 seconds.Much like today the must have the perceived latest case stamp serial hysteria.

Kingair · 29 April 2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

But other brands don't test the sheer volume that Rolex does,its just a bit of paper nothing more.The red chronometer tag is the certification plus its written on the dial.The COSC test is only to state that the bare uncased movement has been tested, and certification is at the time of testing.There is no guarantee the movement will perform to the COSC indefinitely.And I am sure if Rolex did produce a certificate many would be looking for the ones that say returned +2 seconds or less, and rejecting one that say returned +4 seconds.Much like today the must have the perceived latest case stamp serial hysteria.

Thanks for the info

HAGW

dddrees · 29 April 2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

You can request it but you won't get it Daniel.

I only represents the testing of the bare movement and proves that it is capable of meeting the COSC standard.
The important thing is how it runs on YOUR wrist IMO.

x2

Zed Homme · 30 April 2012, 01:08 AM

The little maroon hangtag is from CSOC. However, CSOC is nothing more than a marketing ploy.

mountbaldy · 30 April 2012, 02:43 AM

What led me to buy this watch is that I refused to give my business to Rolex because of their "can't have this" "can't have that", strong-arming their customers with the take it or leave it attitude. So I put my $4K on this watch and I got th COSC certificate. Here is what it looks like. I am keeping all my Rolexes but not buying anything new from Rolex ever-- but am buying two more of these behemoths....

24 January 2012, 05:37 PM	#1
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bradbyrd1110 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: 1110 Location: East Coast Watch: 126233 Posts: 318	I got mine from Omega for my PO. Looks cool, but can't understand some of it. It's just cool to have. I had to contact Omega by email, provide my proof of purchase, blah blah, pay them $100, now it sits in my closet. So, unless you just really want it to show it to everybody, don't waste your money. __________________ 16600, 126233

29 April 2012, 06:35 PM	#16
cosc Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: andorra Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 15	Other brands do... ... provide a copy of it. I'm thinking about Breitling since I own one which came with some sort of certificate from COSC (can't access the box right now). It has also 'chronometer' printed on the dial. As useless as having the certificate is, I think it would be a nice detail from the marketing point of view.

25 January 2012, 12:27 AM	#5
chronoman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Watch: 116520 & 3570.50 Posts: 255	Theorhetically, Rolex could not print "chronometer" on the dial if the movement was not COSC certified. I always pretty much thought my certificate was printed on the dial.

25 January 2012, 02:29 AM	#8
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 8,800	It's Rolex ... it's in there.

25 January 2012, 08:01 PM	#11
Daniel Tan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: daniel tan Location: Malaysia Watch: DSSD DJ EXPII PAM Posts: 210	I see.... Thanks

29 April 2012, 02:23 PM	#14
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Why would you pay $100 for a peice of paper???? I guess I'm confused but the dial and hang tag give me all I need to know.

30 April 2012, 01:08 AM	#20
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	The little maroon hangtag is from CSOC. However, CSOC is nothing more than a marketing ploy.

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