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Old 15 July 2012, 08:14 PM   #1
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Anyone know where to get one of these springbar pliers used by Rolex?

One of these pliers, at the 3:44 mark in this video:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ArSjYlJ9Y

I have the Bergeon 6825-PF pliers, however the fine 'PF' forks (that Bergeon has specifically claimed to have produced especially to fit through smaller Rolex bracelet end link gaps to reach the springbar), are still too wide and doesn't fit though the end link gap to reach the springbar on my SubC and DSSD.

Hence the 6825-PF cannot be used for my SubC and DSSD.

Anyone know where to get one of these pliers that Rolex used to quickly put the bracelet onto the TT GMTIIc in this video?
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Old 15 July 2012, 10:00 PM   #2
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One of those tools would be handy.... no clue where to get one though.
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Old 15 July 2012, 10:13 PM   #3
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One of these pliers, at the 3:44 mark in this video:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ArSjYlJ9Y

I have the Bergeon 6825-PF pliers, however the fine 'PF' forks (that Bergeon has specifically claimed to have produced especially to fit through smaller Rolex bracelet end link gaps to reach the springbar), are still too wide and doesn't fit though the end link gap to reach the springbar on my SubC and DSSD.

Hence the 6825-PF cannot be used for my SubC and DSSD.

Anyone know where to get one of these pliers that Rolex used to quickly put the bracelet onto the TT GMTIIc in this video?
It's a tool named Ref 3200 and it's very hard to find. Only the dealers can buy it and it's not for sale to regular people.
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Old 15 July 2012, 10:27 PM   #4
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That tool is friggin' awesome. I was recently struggling with my bracelet and the spring bar tool I had was no help at all. That tool is a must for all Rolex owners.

After wasting hours at home trying to put my bracelet back on and taping up my watch it still didn't work. I finally took it to a dealer and they got everything back on in less than a minute. They must have had that tool!

Got get me one of those!
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Old 15 July 2012, 11:50 PM   #5
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That tool is friggin' awesome. I was recently struggling with my bracelet and the spring bar tool I had was no help at all. That tool is a must for all Rolex owners.

After wasting hours at home trying to put my bracelet back on and taping up my watch it still didn't work. I finally took it to a dealer and they got everything back on in less than a minute. They must have had that tool!

Got get me one of those!
Hours? I HOPE you're exaggerating!
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Old 15 July 2012, 11:55 PM   #6
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2 minutes on a bench grinder and my Bergeon tool works fantastic! Start with the "FF" Fine Forks and grind 0.00000001mm from each side and they work great.
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Old 16 July 2012, 12:01 AM   #7
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It's a tool named Ref 3200 and it's very hard to find. Only the dealers can buy it and it's not for sale to regular people.
Thanks Jocke

Me wants one...
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Old 16 July 2012, 12:11 AM   #8
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2 minutes on a bench grinder and my Bergeon tool works fantastic! Start with the "FF" Fine Forks and grind 0.00000001mm from each side and they work great.
+1....or using a #8 file took me about 20 minutes to get the forks just right.
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Old 16 July 2012, 12:13 AM   #9
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If you're changing bracelets frequently, then I suppose a tool like that is a justifiable investment, but for me, the end of a metal kebab skewer works fine for me. Costs <$1, and takes me 30 secs to remove my bracelet. It just takes a bit of practice and once mastered, it's really easy ...
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Old 16 July 2012, 12:39 AM   #10
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Can the Bergeon 6825-PF make micro adjustments on daytonas? I recently got the 6111 to use on my daytona and it was a pain trying to push each side and once out getting the springbar back in.
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Old 16 July 2012, 12:48 AM   #11
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It's a tool named Ref 3200 and it's very hard to find. Only the dealers can buy it and it's not for sale to regular people.
Tried goggling for "ref 3200" and couldn't find anything. I'm suprised there's no aftermarket supplier for this. It looks like an amazing tool - especially for those that like to change their bracelets/straps regularly.

Anymore details of the tools and possibly where to buy?
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Old 16 July 2012, 03:44 AM   #12
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Have not seen that one.
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Old 16 July 2012, 03:54 AM   #13
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Yeah thats what the girl used when I went to the RSC. It looked so easy. Doesn't look like it is available.

http://watchmakingblog.com/2011/10/1...-bar-tweezers/
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Old 24 September 2013, 09:37 PM   #14
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I just received mine today. Didn't even had time to unpack and assemble it ...


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Old 24 September 2013, 09:48 PM   #15
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I just received mine today. Didn't even had time to unpack and assemble it ...


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Old 24 September 2013, 11:04 PM   #16
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Love to get one of these!
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Old 24 September 2013, 11:22 PM   #17
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Looks like the next best thing to lug holes
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Old 24 September 2013, 11:33 PM   #18
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I have been using a tiny fork tool from otto frei/bergeon, it works great & is similarly sized (a bit thinner) as the tool that comes with a sea dweller.
Its both inexpensive and readily available.

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Old 25 September 2013, 12:14 AM   #19
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That's the devil they use at the front desk at RSC, the strap is off in a flash, like a magic trick
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Old 25 September 2013, 12:16 AM   #20
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I recently removed the bracelet on my 39mm Explorer 1 and did so with relative ease with 2 small screwdrivers. Removing it was easy but putting it back on was rather more challenging, I tried for about 20 minutes and ended up refitting it simply with my bare hands, no tools needed and no scratches :-)

I will think twice before putting a Nato on it again though :-)

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Old 25 September 2013, 01:32 AM   #21
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I ordered a tweezer tool from Ofrei that they said fits Rolexes. Well I received it and it does not fit. I'ts also a pain to do it with the bracelet on since the tweezer doesn't fit around it like the above tool does.
Sure I could file it down but I didn't pay to file it down nor do I have the tools to file it down, so now I just have a useless piece of metal.
I also got the other tool that every one talks about 6111 and it works but you could sure end up scratching the crap out of your watch, also in trying to get the springbar out you tend to sometimes use the edge of the lug unknowingly which I can see that causing micro dents.

Need to definitely get one of those or it's an AD visit for me every time.
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Old 25 September 2013, 04:54 AM   #22
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Once assembled ...

I tried it and it took me 1 sec to remove bracelet from my Gmt, and 3 secs to put it back ... without any scratch.

Definitely THE tool to have



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Old 25 September 2013, 05:14 AM   #23
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Old 25 September 2013, 05:16 AM   #24
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Old 25 September 2013, 05:25 AM   #25
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Only a Rolex AD can order it ... If you know one, ask him , that's the only way to get it.
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Old 25 September 2013, 08:17 AM   #26
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Once assembled ...

I tried it and it took me 1 sec to remove bracelet from my Gmt, and 3 secs to put it back ... without any scratch.

Definitely THE tool to have



really- that easy to put bracelet back on?
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Old 25 September 2013, 08:24 AM   #27
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really- that easy to put bracelet back on?

To be honnest, it's two times what I wrote previously ... bracelet have two sides ....
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Old 25 September 2013, 11:15 AM   #28
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Old 25 September 2013, 04:06 PM   #29
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Sound like a idea to work up with one of those 3D printers.
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Old 26 September 2013, 08:36 AM   #30
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To be honnest, it's two times what I wrote previously ... bracelet have two sides ....
thank you- love to change out for leather but currently hate the time it takes to put bracelet back on - this tool sounds great. the other tool posted i found to be nearly worthless and sent it back.
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