Nautilus 5711P

[unknown]

Yes, it does exist



I can share you this information which I got from 3 different people ( being my AD and 2 people who work for Patek. The 5711P is not a piece unique They made a very small numer of them, one source about 10 , another said 15. They were made only for the Patek salons .... BUT they will be made for the regular dealers too. The number will be very limited. It is not a limited edition but know that they won't or can't make a few hundred of them per year, probably a few dozen per year. The price is CHF 85K or almost the same as a 5960P which has an anual calendar + chrono. So the 5711P is a super nice and discrete watch but if you can get a 5960P for almost the same price ... not an easy choice anymore. Do you want to pay for rarity or do you prefer to get complications for that price ?

[PatekCollector]

Overpriced!!!.

I'd choose the complication1 for sure.

Thanks for the valuable details.

Khalid

[SearChart]

I'd certainly go for the 5960.

[Puffy]

i'd go PC for that kind of money.

if i wanted a heavy sports watch i'd buy a Deepsea

[Soly20]

I would prefer 5960P

[kilyung]

If money was no issue, I'd get the 5960 AND 5711P. Problem solved.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by kilyung

If money was no issue, I'd get the 5960 AND 5711P. Problem solved.

Money is Always an issue.

[topcat30093]

Without a doubt the 5960P :)

I would be more happy with 5711A blue dial

[R.J.]

I agree with all the above.

[FeelingTheBlues]

That Nautilus would be in my collection if I already have an awful lot of complicated Patek's. However nice it is I'd much rather get more features on a dial than a platinum watch, perhaps white gold would have been a good alternative to have it at a better price whilst enjoying a precious metal on the wrist.

[paverman]

For the same money, the AC chrono for sure.

[Vipes]

Ouch, that's very pricey. I would love to see one in the metal though.

[perpetualman88]

I would take it over a 5960 I know I know im just a huge Nautilus fan and if you are going to get a complicated piece id rather have a 5270

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

I would take it over a 5960 I know I know im just a huge Nautilus fan and if you are going to get a complicated piece id rather have a 5270

How dare you don't think exactly like I do!?

...Forgive me David, it was too tempting.

Allow me to ask you though, would you take it over, say, a 5980r on bracelet or another more complicated Patek because it's made of platinum? Provided that the style is the same, would you prefer the 5711P to a more complicated Nautilus? I'd be curious to read your thoughts my friend!

[perpetualman88]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

How dare you don't think exactly like I do!?

...Forgive me David, it was too tempting.

Allow me to ask you though, would you take it over, say, a 5980r on bracelet or another more complicated Patek because it's made of platinum? Provided that the style is the same, would you prefer the 5711P to a more complicated Nautilus? I'd be curious to read your thoughts my friend!

haha O man this must be a first

I am not a fan of the 5960 Carl. I would rather get a perpetual calendar

To me the nautilus is the ultimate sports watch. I do not think there is another production nauti that is rarer than the platinum if it does exists
for my own collection the 5960 would not be a piece I would be interested in for a simple reason the perpetual chrono always over shadows it. For the money we are talking I would much prefer to save and have the perpetual. (3970,5970,5270)

I see a solid collection going something like
Nautilus, annual calendar, world time, perpetual, perpetual chrono, double split, minute repeater.

for me there might be some other watches thrown in for good measure like a chrono (5070 or 5170) or even a regulator, aquanaut ect, but me for a solid collection would be redundant with a 5960 and a perpetual chrono

[myopiccoog]

I will stick with my SS 5711. It is a great beater! Platy would not be a great beater. Nice novelty however.

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

haha O man this must be a first

I am not a fan of the 5960 Carl. I would rather get a perpetual calendar

To me the nautilus is the ultimate sports watch. I do not think there is another production nauti that is rarer than the platinum if it does exists
for my own collection the 5960 would not be a piece I would be interested in for a simple reason the perpetual chrono always over shadows it. For the money we are talking I would much prefer to save and have the perpetual. (3970,5970,5270)

I see a solid collection going something like
Nautilus, annual calendar, world time, perpetual, perpetual chrono, double split, minute repeater.

for me there might be some other watches thrown in for good measure like a chrono (5070 or 5170) or even a regulator, aquanaut ect, but me for a solid collection would be redundant with a 5960 and a perpetual chrono

Very interesting read, thank you for your opinion and reply!

P.S.: My apologies for the small hijack to the OP.

[vc_watches]

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

haha O man this must be a first

I am not a fan of the 5960 Carl. I would rather get a perpetual calendar

To me the nautilus is the ultimate sports watch. I do not think there is another production nauti that is rarer than the platinum if it does exists
for my own collection the 5960 would not be a piece I would be interested in for a simple reason the perpetual chrono always over shadows it. For the money we are talking I would much prefer to save and have the perpetual. (3970,5970,5270)

I see a solid collection going something like
Nautilus, annual calendar, world time, perpetual, perpetual chrono, double split, minute repeater.

for me there might be some other watches thrown in for good measure like a chrono (5070 or 5170) or even a regulator, aquanaut ect, but me for a solid collection would be redundant with a 5960 and a perpetual chrono

I also think that once you have a perp-cal chrono it makes no sense to get a 5960.

However, I also know a bunch of guys who think that the 5960 is AWESOME because it is SELF-WINDING. Whereas the current line of Patek perp-cal chronos is awesome, of course, but that they do not prefer the MANUAL WINDING MOVEMENT.

I tell them they are INSANE.

[subtona]

Do you know if the dial in the platinum version an identical color blue as in the SS version or some variation?

[vc_watches]

Originally Posted by subtona

Do you know if the dial in the platinum version an identical color blue as in the SS version or some variation?

It appears that the SS version's dial has more of a gray tinge versus the more "electric blue" shade of the Plat (5711/1A on the left, 5711/1P on the right).

TONS of pics of the 5711/1P here:

http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-f.../gridviewer-1/

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by vc_watches

It appears that the SS version's dial has more of a gray tinge versus the more "electric blue" shade of the Plat (5711/1A on the left, 5711/1P on the right).

TONS of pics of the 5711/1P here:

http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-f.../gridviewer-1/

I like the platinum dial better...

[subtona]

Originally Posted by vc_watches

It appears that the SS version's dial has more of a gray tinge versus the more "electric blue" shade of the Plat (5711/1A on the left, 5711/1P on the right).

TONS of pics of the 5711/1P here:

http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-f.../gridviewer-1/

thanks for pics & link

That platy dial is stunning!

[vc_watches]

Originally Posted by subtona

thanks for pics & link

That platy dial is stunning!

Yes, it does stand out even beside the 5711/1A, 'no? What's interesting is that I THOUGHT my 5711/1A's dial pretty much looked like that. An electric blue that changes shade depending on how the light hits it. I guess it's not as bright blue as the 5711/1P's.

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I like the platinum dial better...

Me too. But because of the 5711/1A's comparable finishing - and the fact that I like wearing my 5711 as a "daily beater" of sorts - I am not sure if I would pay the speculated $95K or so at which the 5711/1P might retail at an AD, plus the several years wait time.

Because of its rarity it will also probably trade at a significant premium in the secondary market. Six figures for a no-complication Nautilus? Exchange my 3970P for a 5711/1P? Maybe not.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by vc_watches

Me too. But because of the 5711/1A's comparable finishing - and the fact that I like wearing my 5711 as a "daily beater" of sorts - I am not sure if I would pay the speculated $95K or so at which the 5711/1P might retail at an AD, plus the several years wait time.

Because of its rarity it will also probably trade at a significant premium in the secondary market. Six figures for a no-complication Nautilus? Exchange my 3970P for a 5711/1P? Maybe not.

Agreed. "Like better" ≠ "worth the price differential"....

[HauteHorlogerie]

Bringing this thread back to life (I've been doing that a lot lately). Any update on production numbers? How to get one (just at patek salons?) Confirmed msrp?


edit: taken from purists

"Now, the official answer from Patek is "we cannot answer in detail". But it seems to be certain that this is the LAST one left in their drawer - the story seems that someone very in the high in the customer list ordered 5 or so special order for this, but somehow one was left in the drawer and this new owner fetched during the factory trip. So, chances are they will never make this again and you can not order this one or buy one new...... Not sure this is 100% true, but this is what Patek and AD who kept bugging Patek to tell the story told us....


Anyway, yes, very pretty and beautiful piece. I used to own 3711G but G was a bit yellowish. This P is totally white metal and so nice.

Congrats! New owner!

Have a great week, everyone!

Best,
Ken"

[myopiccoog]

I have heard 100 5711P is the most likely scenario. They make production runs of 15 (Grand Comps), 25(Grand Comps to Comps) or 50 (everything else). The Nauti line is a production run of 50 minimally. So I know that they have made a least two given the distribution.

[jon_jon]

The production run makes sense. I wonder if the major ADs (non-salons) will get any allocation on the next production run.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by HauteHorlogerie

Bringing this thread back to life (I've been doing that a lot lately). Any update on production numbers? How to get one (just at patek salons?) Confirmed msrp?


edit: taken from purists

"Now, the official answer from Patek is "we cannot answer in detail". But it seems to be certain that this is the LAST one left in their drawer - the story seems that someone very in the high in the customer list ordered 5 or so special order for this, but somehow one was left in the drawer and this new owner fetched during the factory trip. So, chances are they will never make this again and you can not order this one or buy one new...... Not sure this is 100% true, but this is what Patek and AD who kept bugging Patek to tell the story told us....


Anyway, yes, very pretty and beautiful piece. I used to own 3711G but G was a bit yellowish. This P is totally white metal and so nice.

Congrats! New owner!

Have a great week, everyone!

Best,
Ken"

80K (euro)
imo insane
For that price you can buy much more interesting Pateks
After all it's just a simple entry nautilus with more or less 250 gram platinum

[Chasseur]

You're right
A simple entry Nautilus ��

[HauteHorlogerie]

Originally Posted by Chasseur

You're right
A simple entry Nautilus ��

I envy anyone with this piece. It's amazing. Puts the platona to shame IMHO.