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Old 10 August 2013, 09:23 AM   #1
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Regulating a Rolex by position

There has been a a lot written over the years about how leaving a mechanical watch one way or the other in a resting position (e.g., dial or crown up/down) will cause the watch to run faster or slower.

What are your Rolex experiences in this regard? In which position does the watch run fastest or slowest? How much variation (in seconds per day) have you noticed by position or compared with time on your wrist?

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Old 10 August 2013, 09:29 AM   #2
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Old 10 August 2013, 09:58 AM   #3
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Thanks Peters. In addition to this written material, what are your personal experiences with self-regulating a Rolex? Oddly, I have one that loses time on my wrist but gains time crown up.

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Old 10 August 2013, 10:02 AM   #4
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IMO the Rolex guide on this issue is just that, a guide. Each watch will react a little differently. I have an M series EXP II and a G series DJ. Both will gain a second overnight in the face up position. With crown up, both will lose a second. Resting them crown down has zero effect. Therefore, my two models seemingly react the same. This is fine with me since both will gain a second during a day's wearing time so I can regulate them very easily. In my case this consistency is probably just the luck of the draw.
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Old 10 August 2013, 10:49 AM   #5
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It makes very little difference with my Sub at all. With my Omega and DOXA I can self regulate by a couple seconds either way but the Rolex stays the same no matter what. I just wear it 24/7 now so it really doesn't matter... looses about .7 second per 24 hours.
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Old 10 August 2013, 11:12 AM   #6
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Has more of an effect on older Rolex. I doubt it affects modern movements significantly. I could be wrong.
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Old 10 August 2013, 11:28 AM   #7
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Same

My Milgauss gains a little under one second/24hrs whichever way it lies overnight.
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Old 10 August 2013, 12:38 PM   #8
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my DSSD with my wear pattern is doing -2 sec per day... after placing it face up I am able to reset the difference slowly... currently it is +1 sec after a week

Explorer II only -1 sec when I wear it to sleep... weird
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There has been a a lot written over the years about how leaving a mechanical watch one way or the other in a resting position (e.g., dial or crown up/down) will cause the watch to run faster or slower.

What are your Rolex experiences in this regard? In which position does the watch run fastest or slowest? How much variation (in seconds per day) have you noticed by position or compared with time on your wrist?

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In my experience this simply does not wrk...not unless you leave it that position over night . I tried very Rolex I have every had and it does not make any difference.
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Old 10 August 2013, 02:31 PM   #10
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While I am not too anal about precise timing, to answer the OP - laying both my new and older watches overnight in the different positions does alter the timing as Rolex suggests. Good luck...
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Old 10 August 2013, 04:52 PM   #11
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Has more of an effect on older Rolex. I doubt it affects modern movements significantly. I could be wrong.
Quite true but why worry about a second or two out of 86400 in a day.Last time I checked my wearing watch was two weeks ago just checked now its less than a minute fast.
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Old 10 August 2013, 06:00 PM   #12
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There has been a a lot written over the years about how leaving a mechanical watch one way or the other in a resting position (e.g., dial or crown up/down) will cause the watch to run faster or slower.

What are your Rolex experiences in this regard? In which position does the watch run fastest or slowest? How much variation (in seconds per day) have you noticed by position or compared with time on your wrist?

Thanks.
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Using this method, I regulated my three month old Exp II down to 4-6 seconds a day fast, coming from 15s/day. I expect I can bring it down some more.

A colleague at work had problems with her DJ and told her this method and she also noticed that after a few night the watch ran slower.

Biggest problem is that you have to take your watch of for the night!

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Old 10 August 2013, 06:08 PM   #13
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Using this method, I regulated my three month old Exp II down to 4-6 seconds a day fast, coming from 15s/day. I expect I can bring it down some more.

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I find this hard to believe, it's more likely that your new watch is settling in.
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Old 10 August 2013, 07:01 PM   #14
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my 114060 (3130 mov't) =

will gain about +1 sec if left dial up for approx. 16 hrs

it will drop -1 sec if left crown down for the same time

crown up doesn't seem to do anything either way

using this method, my watch is within 1 sec of the atomic clock after 4 weeks since it was set

for what it's worth.... my rolex sits longer on the dresser at the weekend, so I tend to leave it crown down every night (as it runs faster on the wrist) and then on a Friday if I'm inclined to check the timing (which I usually am!!) then I make call whether it needs to be left face up or crown down over the longer periods of not being worn on the weekend
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Old 10 August 2013, 07:41 PM   #15
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Get one of these and then you won't worry about a few seconds here or there:

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Is this also work for another mechancial movement, like ETA?
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Is this also work for another mechancial movement, like ETA?
Yes all mechanical movements are basically built the same with the same age old problem the effect of gravity.
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Old 10 August 2013, 08:08 PM   #18
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From experience, the modern Rolex is more prone to temperature changes than anything else. When you take it off, it cools down and this is likely what is causing the variations and not the position itself.
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Yes all mechanical movements are basically built the same with the same age old problem the effect of gravity.
Thats the trouble with that gravity...just can't trust it...
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From experience, the modern Rolex is more prone to temperature changes than anything else. When you take it off, it cools down and this is likely what is causing the variations and not the position itself.
Thats interesting Dan...I cannot say I've noticed but I'm going to check. I'm always in 90 degrees one minute then 70 degree office etc etc...
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Great information about self regulation.
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The whole self regulation thing can be skipped with a good watch winder
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Yes all mechanical movements are basically built the same with the same age old problem the effect of gravity.
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