Explorer 1016 retailed by Cartier

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Ladydimic

Update....the watch was authenticated and acquired by a very serious collector who knew exactly what he was looking at. No relumed dial....it was nice to have so responses and opinions. You all have been helpful. It was hard to part with, however.....

[yessir69]

Please make it stop...

[robisan]

I'm interested how much did it go for too..

[joe100]

Sigh

[tommyz24]

In your first post you say your parents bought it for you, then on post#17 you say it was your husbands from his parents....

[Lavajava14]

***sniff*** sniff*** anyone smell something?...hmmm...

[Cc1966]

This story has really taken on a larger than life persona! I am wondering.....

[s4dan]

As we're talking Rolex/Cartier - What about this baby...Oh and with papers of authenticity

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/2/...wser-this.html

[ralpie]

Originally Posted by Ladydimic

Update....the watch was authenticated and acquired by a very serious collector who knew exactly what he was looking at. No relumed dial....it was nice to have so responses and opinions. You all have been helpful. It was hard to part with, however.....

When the "collector" "backs out due to family issues" make sure you have your pledge member status ready to post in the FS forum.

We are not idiots here, if you want to perpetrate a scam, you've picked the wrong place.

[joe100]

Originally Posted by ralpie

When the "collector" "backs out due to family issues" make sure you have your pledge member status ready to post in the FS forum.

We are not idiots here, if you want to perpetrate a scam, you've picked the wrong place.

Agreed!

[Ladydimic]

Wow! Not that it matters, but a few of you treat others with respect....and I thank you....while some of you are just downright arrogant! The watch was sold 3 days ago. Out of respect for the buyer, i do not wish to disclose for how much. Respect....hmmmmm. I am an educated business owner and My posts were all respectful as I respected this was a forum of knowledgeable individuals who know more than me about this and may be able to help us in our search for information. I never posted it for sale here or lied.....my husband received it as a gift from his parents 30 years ago and it was bought from an estate sale. "Smell" whatever you want.....I smell many people who reek of pretentiousness. For those of you who treated me like a real person, not the #%^# under their feet, thank you for you kind efforts.

[springer]

Originally Posted by s4dan

As we're talking Rolex/Cartier - What about this baby...Oh and with papers of authenticity

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/2/...wser-this.html

That is a real beauty. Very nice Cartier.

[watchcrank]

Interesting JB. Regardless of opinions it would have been nice to know more about this rare bird. Usually only seen by the big collectors but sometimes on a forum :-) you get a peek. very best to all. M

[Ladydimic]

Originally Posted by watchcrank

Interesting JB. Regardless of opinions it would have been nice to know more about this rare bird. Usually only seen by the big collectors but sometimes on a forum :-) you get a peek. very best to all. M

Thank you watchcrank. I have a feeling you'll learn more about the watch in the future. Someone that you all "respect" has the piece and I'm sure, the resources to follow everything through. We will love to more about it and only wish that we could have seen it through. I, myself will be keeping an eye out for it.

[joe100]

No one said co-branded Rolex/Cartiers don't exist, it's just that they are faked an awful lot. WITHOUT paperwork, provinance is impossible to prove.

You have to understand we are a skeptical lot by nature. So when someone comes to us with a big story, they'd better have something to back it. Yours was a little inconstant. Then you sold it. Folks use TRF to post pictures of a watch and after we ooh and aah over it, use the thread as proof it's real. Most of us won't jump on that. Unless the photos are crystal clear, otherwise you get what you got here, an inconsistent and mostly skeptical opinion.

[marcello pisani]

Originally Posted by joe100

No one said co-branded Rolex/Cartiers don't exist, it's just that they are faked an awful lot. WITHOUT paperwork, provinance is impossible to prove.

You have to understand we are a skeptical lot by nature. So when someone comes to us with a big story, they'd better have something to back it. Yours was a little inconstant. Then you sold it. Folks use TRF to post pictures of a watch and after we ooh and aah over it, use the thread as proof it's real. Most of us won't jump on that. Unless the photos are crystal clear, otherwise you get what you got here, an inconsistent and mostly skeptical opinion.

[Risqui]

Hi everybody, how are you all? have a similar case, just acquired a very strange watch, made a down payment reserve in second hand shop going to pick it up next week, and then to local Rolex retailer to check watch. Funnily enough I went to Rolex shop and told them about this watch with Cartier logo and the first thing they told me is these watches don't exist, so I had to correct them.

[Risqui]

Would like to add picture but don't know how, could someone help me?

[Risqui]

Ok picture isn't the best I zoomed in from another one I took, I'll send that one too,should I risk the hassle of buying it, worse scenario I'm sure I could give it back if it isnt100%genuine

[Risqui]

It's so weird it would be crazy someone would fake it, I read somewhere that space dwellers retailed by Cartier exist, but space dweller font isn't right!!! plus outer ring !!!!
I will take of bracelet before I pay the rest money to check that its at least a 1016 and right period before I take a chance.

It's super weird , space dweller font don't match original more outer ring, but I read that there is a space dweller retailed by Cartier

[Risqui]

I will take of bracelet before I make full payment so I can check that it is a 1016 and also check that it is from correct period

[Risqui]

If you could choose a jubilee bracelet instead of the oyster one would it be possible to have chosen a different outer ring for the watch? And would somebody fake such rare model like the space dweller, use the wrong size and put a Cartier logo? It's defenetly a really strange case, that's why I had to buy into it;) hope I get some feedback from you guys, cause I'm sure you are as intrigued as me.

[harry in montreal]

Hi there
You seem sincere and a nice guy. Risqui, that watch is VERY risky! get your money back man. Buy something else...

[Haywood_Milton]

Space-Dweller.....Cartier.....15010 bezel? Uh-huh.

Chunky arabic numerals and those chapter ring markings? Mmmm.

HM

[kyle L]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Space-Dweller.....Cartier.....15010 bezel? Uh-huh.

Chunky arabic numerals and those chapter ring markings? Mmmm.

HM

One of the weirdest pieces I've seen in a while...elements from many different pieces.

[datejust24]

The space dweller ...haha I've seen it all..

[Old Expat Beast]

As far as I know the Space Dweller was only sold in Japan, so a Cartier branded model is highly unlikely.

[Risqui]

Thanks for quick response, I'm going to shop on Monday so I'll take bracelet off to see if it is marked right, the shop changed the plexiglass in authorized dealer, so apparently the watch is real ,or so they claim, I will also ask for receipt of that. Looks like a Frankenstein, but who would do such a bizarre build, it just doesn't look right, deffenetly cought my eye.
I will keep you posted on how I get on. Hopefully Monday I will know more, bare in mind time difference, I'm in Spain, thanks again

[Risqui]

I'm sure I can get money back from shop if it is not the right model, cause they are selling it as a space dweller, so if anything wasn't right they are obliged by law to return the money, even after I've payed for the full amount. If when I check model I see it's not a 1016 time right model I will not buy it and write a complaint in the shop so they correct the product description, but if it turns out to be a 1016 model with serial numbers matching between 1963-1967 should I risk buying it?

[Risqui]

I'll go there on Monday and check if it is a 1016 model time right, if it isn't I will write a complaint so they change description and ask for my deposit back, but if it turns out to be a 1016, with serial number from 1963-1967 should I risk buying it? I'm sure if it turns out not be real a space dweller as described, they will be obliged by law to return my money. I don't have to pay the full amount until the 16-11-15, so first I'll check that and let you know, thanx