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Old 25 January 2015, 11:30 AM   #1
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Cyclops question

Looking for some opinions, just picked up a Sub and the cyclops looks to magnify a bit less than other older models/examples I've seen. Curious the groups thoughts on this? Is this normal? A change in the way they are being produced? Or just part of varied QC? Pic for example:
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:31 AM   #2
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And here's my vintage datejust for comparison:
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:40 AM   #3
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Here's mine for reference. Sorry it's not a close up but the best pic I had. Yours seems fine to me.


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Old 25 January 2015, 11:40 AM   #4
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Not normal but has been showing up a decent amount here on the forums. Bring it back if it bothers you.
Check out this thread http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=386768
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:47 AM   #5
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Not normal but has been showing up a decent amount here on the forums. Bring it back if it bothers you.
Check out this thread http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=386768
Bought from a trusted seller here. Just trying to figure out if this is bad or just the new standard? The watch itself is great though.
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:49 AM   #6
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I would return the watch. I don't like the latest batch of cyclops with sub-par magnification at all. Hopefully Rolex fixes this ASAP.
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:51 AM   #7
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Here's mine for reference. Sorry it's not a close up but the best pic I had. Yours seems fine to me.


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Thats what it should look like IMO. OPs magnification is way too small.
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:52 AM   #8
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Bought from a trusted seller here. Just trying to figure out if this is bad or just the new standard? The watch itself is great though.
rolex will change out the crystal for you at no charge so I would guess that this is a bad batch of droplets. There's no way that that is 2.5 magnification.
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Old 25 January 2015, 12:07 PM   #9
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Price rising and magnification falling. Brave new world.
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Old 25 January 2015, 12:13 PM   #10
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I've posted about this topic on numerou occasions. I have what I assume was one of the original batch of BLNRs back in 2013 (got first one my AD received) and the magnification always bothered me. In fact I had the opportunity to buy one at another AD before then but I declined because I thought there was a defect in the mag. Anyway when I was seeing that universally I went ahead with the purchase. Now that it's been a couple of years and I've seen some (not many) BLNRs with the correct mag, just today I took it back to the AD and asked them to send it to the RSC for warranty crystal replacement. It will be on the way Monday and I'll update everyone on what happens.
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Old 25 January 2015, 12:14 PM   #11
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Old 25 January 2015, 12:15 PM   #12
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I forgot to mention that I had a correct version and mine side by side and I noticed that the cyclops sits higher on mine than the correct one. On correct one it rises gently off the crystal. On mine it sits up a millimeter or two.
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Old 25 January 2015, 12:40 PM   #13
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X2. Not the Rolex magnification they have developed for decades.

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I would return the watch. I don't like the latest batch of cyclops with sub-par magnification at all. Hopefully Rolex fixes this ASAP.
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Old 25 January 2015, 02:08 PM   #14
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Should be 2.5X. I would ask to have the cyclops replaced. If it doesn't bother you.. just leave it.
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Old 25 January 2015, 02:14 PM   #15
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The angle that you take the picture at and look at the watch makes a huge difference. Can't really compare pictures unless it's the identical angle. I agree that there is some variance going on with Rolex. Some of the date wheels seem a lot more bolded font than others that appear thinner and smaller
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Old 25 January 2015, 02:18 PM   #16
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I've posted about this topic on numerou occasions. I have what I assume was one of the original batch of BLNRs back in 2013 (got first one my AD received) and the magnification always bothered me. In fact I had the opportunity to buy one at another AD before then but I declined because I thought there was a defect in the mag. Anyway when I was seeing that universally I went ahead with the purchase. Now that it's been a couple of years and I've seen some (not many) BLNRs with the correct mag, just today I took it back to the AD and asked them to send it to the RSC for warranty crystal replacement. It will be on the way Monday and I'll update everyone on what happens.
So the answer is its not right take the watch back
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Old 25 January 2015, 02:25 PM   #17
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There is another thread on this.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=388477
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Old 25 January 2015, 06:21 PM   #18
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I dropped two of mine at RSCNY this past Friday. They initially told me their tech didn't see a problem, but I decided to leave them for a second opinion on Monday. I'll keep everyone updated. Here are the watches.
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Old 25 January 2015, 06:22 PM   #19
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And the BLNR
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Old 25 January 2015, 06:31 PM   #20
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Most importantly, congrats on the new watch! A great choice.

Re: the cyclops, yes, that would bug me. It looks aftermarket? So, I would have an AD or boutique fix it ASAP.

Rolex mystifies me sometimes.
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Old 25 January 2015, 09:07 PM   #21
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Thanks guys. It's 6 months old purchased pre-owned with the warranty card. I love the watch but I think I'll head into AD today and see what can be done. It's a minor issue to me now, but may bug me in the future.
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Old 25 January 2015, 10:38 PM   #22
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It's strange because I'm seeing this more and more lately. During recent AD visits I've spotted the mag to be noticeably different on many of them.
Beginning to wonder if they are changing the process in how the cyclops is produced (and if so, why after all these years)?
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:02 PM   #23
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Hope you get it sorted. Mine was exactly the same and my AD arranged the return to the RSC. Took a couple of weeks but now it's tip-top (before and after shots below)!

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Old 25 January 2015, 11:11 PM   #24
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I dropped two of mine at RSCNY this past Friday. They initially told me their tech didn't see a problem, but I decided to leave them for a second opinion on Monday. I'll keep everyone updated. Here are the watches.
both your watches look ok to me from those pictures.
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:11 PM   #25
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Hope you get it sorted. Mine was exactly the same and my AD arranged the return to the RSC. Took a couple of weeks but now it's tip-top (before and after shots below)!

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ahh much better. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:12 PM   #26
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Thanks guys. It's 6 months old purchased pre-owned with the warranty card. I love the watch but I think I'll head into AD today and see what can be done. It's a minor issue to me now, but may bug me in the future.
good luck!
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:25 PM   #27
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Thanks guys. It's 6 months old purchased pre-owned with the warranty card. I love the watch but I think I'll head into AD today and see what can be done. It's a minor issue to me now, but may bug me in the future.

If the AD doesn't help call the RSC yourself and arrange for it to be sent in
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Old 25 January 2015, 11:36 PM   #28
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What does it entail to replace a crystal? Does it require the case back to be cracked open?
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Old 26 January 2015, 01:10 AM   #29
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When I picked up my new YM a week or so ago, I was talking with my AD about this - and we looked through most of their stock of sport models and they didn't have any with reduced mag...they are on the lookout though.

I wouldn't buy one with the lower mag.

But for those who have - I would personally consider sending them in for warranty crystals put on.

But that's just me.
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Old 26 January 2015, 01:31 AM   #30
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I would not like a smaller magnification. I would send it back & have them change the Cyclops. This seems to be something with the newer models.
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