Rolex 14060m 2 liner vs 4 liner

[Jcy90]

Hi All which would you get and why? Which so you think will be more collectable and why? I think the 2 liner is cleaner, but a 4 liner is a lot rarer.

[Old Expat Beast]

The four line is less common, but not rare by any measure. There are plenty to go around. Just get the one you prefer the look of.

[Clay]

I have owned both. You can’t go wrong with either one!

[Gimoozaabi]

I much prefer the cleaner looks of the two liner.

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[JR16]

I went through the same debate, ultimately decided on the two liner (cleaner dial, had a more “vintage” appeal, and differentiated even more from my SubC Date), waited patiently to find a mint condition one w B&P, and couldn’t be happier w my choice.


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[sensui]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

The four line is less common, but not rare by any measure. There are plenty to go around. Just get the one you prefer the look of.

Exactly. Personally I favor the two liners as well.

[brandrea]

The 2 line is much cleaner looking and I prefer it to the 4. Just my

[Tony64]

Two liner is my preference. I'm generally not a fan of superfluous dial text, and agree with the others who feel that it's a cleaner look for this reference.

As Adam has said neither is particularly rare, so it should be a personal aesthetic choice.

[The Libertine]

Makes no difference to me. Either 2 or 4 line, you’ll get the case with lug holes = #win.

[offrdmania]

I am a bit biased but my vote is for a 2 liner. A vintage flare with modern materials as well as a modern movement. I even went one step further on mine and added a glide lock clasp for comfort.

[Byrdguy]

Now THAT's the way to go. The glidelock clasp is all the pre ceramic subs need.

[Blingtone]

Originally Posted by Byrdguy

Now THAT's the way to go. The glidelock clasp is all the pre ceramic subs need.

Exactly !! I have the 2 liner and will be adding the glidelock.....

[JR16]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

I am a bit biased but my vote is for a 2 liner. A vintage flare with modern materials as well as a modern movement. I even went one step further on mine and added a glide lock clasp for comfort.

Nice look! Was considering doing this.. where did you source your glidelock?


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[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by JR16

Nice look! Was considering doing this.. where did you source your glidelock?


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Found mine through a private sale, took me 6 months to source it. They dont come up too often since Rolex wont sell them for retail, warranty only.
When they do come up for sale, they sell for an arm and sometimes a leg. A complete 97200 bracelet just sold in the classifieds for $2200. It took less than 9 hours to sell.

[subtona]

Either choice is perfect.

Find the best example you can.

I have had a couple of 2 liners but ultimately settled on 4 liner, after owning a sub date for so many years, I missed the additional text.

I also modified my bracelet with a different clasp, I am using the clasp from the 93250 bracelet for the locking dive extension.

[daveo5]

I have to vote for the four liner. I purchased mine, NITB, back when Rolex first issued the four line Sub. At that time the reason for the COSC rating was the movement's edges were more finely beveled and other parts finished to meet COSC, rather than the lesser finished on the two liner. Same movement just a higher level of finishing. Both fine pieces.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by daveo5

I have to vote for the four liner. I purchased mine, NITB, back when Rolex first issued the four line Sub. At that time the reason for the COSC rating was the movement's edges were more finely beveled and other parts finished to meet COSC, rather than the lesser finished on the two liner. Same movement just a higher level of finishing. Both fine pieces.

I was not aware of this fact. I thought the later movements of the 14060M were identical, 2 line or 4, the only difference being one was sent for COSC verification and the other not.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Tony64

I was not aware of this fact. I thought the later movements of the 14060M were identical, 2 line or 4, the only difference being one was sent for COSC verification and the other not.

Unaware of any extra movement finishing but could be?

However the later model 4 liners have incorporated the parachrome blue hairspring, but not certain if it was all of them or just the last couple of years?

[Chewbacca]

i own both but if i had to keep one, it would be the 2L.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by subtona

Unaware of any extra movement finishing but could be?

However the later model 4 liners have incorporated the parachrome blue hairspring, but not certain if it was all of them or just the last couple of years?

I thought both the 2 line and 4 line 14060m used the identical 3130 movement. The ones sent for certification got the 4 line designation, the others were 2 liners. I didn't know that they were finished differently.

The 14060 used the cal 3000 movement, but when the 14060m was introduced around 2000, they switched to the 3130. In 2006 Rolex sends it for COCS certification and the 4 liner is born. I wasn't previously aware of any differences in finishing among the same movements though.

[Hamish]

Owned both....definitely 2 liner

[Jcy90]

2 liner is definitely way cleaner. It’s funny that on the older versions the 2 liners are cleaner, but on the ceramics the 4 liner fits perfectly

[run23]

Definitely two liner for me. Love that clean vintage-like look. As long as my watch is reasonably accurate I don’t care at all if it’s CoSC certified, and I don’t really need to be reminded about it if it is (-;

Subs are all over the place in NYC, but I don’t think I’ve spotted another two-liner on someone’s wrist. I’m sure there are lots of them, I just haven’t seen one in the wild.

[Oat Willy]

Absolutely the 2 liner. Closer nod to vintage

[maylebox]

Given the choice I'm in the "less is more" camp

[GradyPhilpott]

My four-liner has the same movement as the 114060, so that's the reason I prefer it, not because of the number of lines on the dial.

Beyond that, it's purely a matter of taste or perhaps which watch is the better deal.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Oat Willy

Absolutely the 2 liner. Closer nod to vintage

There are four-line vintage Subs, you know.

[Nikrnic]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

There are four-line vintage Subs, you know.

I liked the look of the 2 liner and it always ran within cosc. Traded it for a 114060

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[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I liked the look of the 2 liner and it always ran within cosc. Traded it for a 114060
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As Peter has noted many times, the movements in the 2-liners, while not certified by COSC, were more than capable of such accuracy and your experience confirms that.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Found mine through a private sale, took me 6 months to source it. They dont come up too often since Rolex wont sell them for retail, warranty only.

When they do come up for sale, they sell for an arm and sometimes a leg. A complete 97200 bracelet just sold in the classifieds for $2200. It took less than 9 hours to sell.

Thanks for the info, and wow!


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