Hulks are on their way to your local AD!

[AK797]

New all time high of £9.5K on the LVc at WF. Lots of new watches, esp BLNRs, listed at the moment, all flippers trying to take advantage before Basel and possible supply rise.

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/search?q=116610

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by AK797

New all time high of £9.5K on the LVc at WF. Lots of new watches, esp BLNRs, listed at the moment, all flippers trying to take advantage before Basel and possible supply rise.

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/search?q=116610

I realise this question doesn't have a definite answer, but how likely do you think it is that there will be a supply increase this year in Blighty?

The LVc will be my next watch but my AD won't even put me on the list yet. I won't pay grey prices on principal.

[aquatimerfla]

Originally Posted by HorologyK

Aquanauts are not exclusive. I found one the other day calling an AD I worked with years ago. Another AD called me this morning with one and I passed.

Much more exclusive than a Daytona C

Never mind the Nautilus

[daytonastl]

An Aquanaut is lovely in certain iterations. Classic Patek vibe. But it is never exclusive. A 5016 or 5074 or 3939 is exclusive. If we give that title to an Aquanaut, we misuse the word ‘exclusive.’ Even my 5070, while relatively rare, is not exclusive and there are far less of them than Aquanauts.

‘Hard to find’ works better as a proper state of the union on the subject.

As for a flood of SS, high-demand Rolex Sport models appearing in the next 30-60 days—it likely won’t happen. Certainly there will be far more than in last Q4. There has to be in order to maintain brand trust and dealer traffic. But an essential component of true luxury brands is partial ‘scarcity’ and Rolex plays that to perfection. If there were two SS Ceramic Daytonas continually, forever available in every ADs case, it would fundamentally change the Rolex marketing strategy, which is to create an intense and extended level of involvement with their brand. It’s a strategy that would and could not last as long it has with full supply of all goods typically at the ready. They need more than the ‘one and done’ customer. They need us—and they have us.

Rolex Brand Evangelists aren’t created by a Datejust any longer.

Originally Posted by aquatimerfla

Much more exclusive than a Daytona C

Never mind the Nautilus

[amh]

Originally Posted by aquatimerfla

Something happened this past year w Rolex. I know many want the limited supply and grey market premiums but it was never like that in the past and probably will not be in the future as well. Bubble just burst. Lack of patience cost alot of people alot of money.

Lmao

I would not be surprised if they had a fire on the production floor or something.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by daytonastl

As for a flood of SS, high-demand Rolex Sport models appearing in the next 30-60 days—it likely won’t happen. Certainly there will be far more than in last Q4. There has to be in order to maintain brand trust and dealer traffic. But an essential component of true luxury brands is partial ‘scarcity’ and Rolex plays that to perfection. If there were two SS Ceramic Daytonas continually, forever available in every ADs case, it would fundamentally change the Rolex marketing strategy, which is to create an intense and extended level of involvement with their brand. It’s a strategy that would and could not last as long it has with full supply of all goods typically at the ready. They need more than the ‘one and done’ customer. They need us—and they have us.

Despite being new to the brand, from doing a lot of reading on here I know what you’ve written to be true. However I don’t think I’ve seen it articulated as well you have in this paragraph.

The bit in bold describes everyone in here.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by HorologyK

Aquanauts are not exclusive. I found one the other day calling an AD I worked with years ago. Another AD called me this morning with one and I passed.

Not that I would call aquanaut exclusive but I called a few ADs and couldn’t find one , was told waiting list at least 6 months .


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[cht]

Originally Posted by BillA

Hulks are on their way to your local AD, per conversation with local AD.

He told me he got 2 in this past week, sold them both, he does not take lists, but puts them in the display case.
He told me that he speaks to other AD's and that Rolex is starting to ship to AD's in the US after not shipping since last November. He does not know what is coming in, but he thought demand for SS sports watches would start to be satisfied at AD's by end of February/March.

I see many Hulks for sale on this forum way above MSRP, good luck to the sellers who are flipping.

And even if he DID, is this anything more than just some guy saying something that is unsubstantiated?

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

I realise this question doesn't have a definite answer, but how likely do you think it is that there will be a supply increase this year in Blighty?

The LVc will be my next watch but my AD won't even put me on the list yet. I won't pay grey prices on principal.

Hard to be confident as we all can hardly remember the last time popular models were regularly in windows, but I hope they will resupply as better this year, only issue is with Rolex's star so on the rise, demand may also remain high and so we don't really notice any real change.

[VicLeChic]

Could be the end of the green fever. I remember preowned hulks selling for EUR 6.5k two years back.

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by daytonastl

An Aquanaut is lovely in certain iterations. Classic Patek vibe. But it is never exclusive. A 5016 or 5074 or 3939 is exclusive. If we give that title to an Aquanaut, we misuse the word ‘exclusive.’ Even my 5070, while relatively rare, is not exclusive and there are far less of them than Aquanauts.

‘Hard to find’ works better as a proper state of the union on the subject.

As for a flood of SS, high-demand Rolex Sport models appearing in the next 30-60 days—it likely won’t happen. Certainly there will be far more than in last Q4. There has to be in order to maintain brand trust and dealer traffic. But an essential component of true luxury brands is partial ‘scarcity’ and Rolex plays that to perfection. If there were two SS Ceramic Daytonas continually, forever available in every ADs case, it would fundamentally change the Rolex marketing strategy, which is to create an intense and extended level of involvement with their brand. It’s a strategy that would and could not last as long it has with full supply of all goods typically at the ready. They need more than the ‘one and done’ customer. They need us—and they have us.

Rolex Brand Evangelists aren’t created by a Datejust any longer.

The post that everyone should read but won’t so I just might quote it on every subsequent page. The “Rolex-will-make-as-many-watches-as-they-can-because they’re-in-it-to-make-a-profit” folks would be especially benefited by understanding what this gentleman so eloquently stated.

[ian6988]

I’ll visit the local ADs in Orange County and update TRF if I see any Batman or Hulk, but no before I purchase one first.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by aquatimerfla

Not really. The 116520 was next to impossible to obtain at first. Not so much later.

Whats funny is the Daytona C owners thinking they have an 'exclusive' watch.

A Patek Aquanaut it isnt

Guess we'll see.

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by BillA

Hulks are on their way to your local AD, per conversation with local AD.
He told me he got 2 in this past week, sold them both, he does not take lists, but puts them in the display case.
He told me that he speaks to other AD's and that Rolex is starting to ship to AD's in the US after not shipping since last November. He does not know what is coming in, but he thought demand for SS sports watches would start to be satisfied at AD's by end of February/March.

I see many Hulks for sale on this forum way above MSRP, good luck to the sellers who are flipping.

Yeah, but that's the last of the batch right? Why leave that out?

[RyanOC]

Well said.

Originally Posted by daytonastl

An Aquanaut is lovely in certain iterations. Classic Patek vibe. But it is never exclusive. A 5016 or 5074 or 3939 is exclusive. If we give that title to an Aquanaut, we misuse the word ‘exclusive.’ Even my 5070, while relatively rare, is not exclusive and there are far less of them than Aquanauts.

‘Hard to find’ works better as a proper state of the union on the subject.

As for a flood of SS, high-demand Rolex Sport models appearing in the next 30-60 days—it likely won’t happen. Certainly there will be far more than in last Q4. There has to be in order to maintain brand trust and dealer traffic. But an essential component of true luxury brands is partial ‘scarcity’ and Rolex plays that to perfection. If there were two SS Ceramic Daytonas continually, forever available in every ADs case, it would fundamentally change the Rolex marketing strategy, which is to create an intense and extended level of involvement with their brand. It’s a strategy that would and could not last as long it has with full supply of all goods typically at the ready. They need more than the ‘one and done’ customer. They need us—and they have us.

Rolex Brand Evangelists aren’t created by a Datejust any longer.

[SG56]

About time.

They were in the displays in september, then someone said something about discontinuation and the craziness started.

IMO *we* created the hype and the demand.

[Golf&Watches]

Originally Posted by aquatimerfla

Not really. The 116520 was next to impossible to obtain at first. Not so much later.

Whats funny is the Daytona C owners thinking they have an 'exclusive' watch.

A Patek Aquanaut it isnt

Thankfully the Aquawart it is not, the most awful (IMO) PP.

[cdbeaver66]

Originally Posted by AK797

New all time high of £9.5K on the LVc at WF. Lots of new watches, esp BLNRs, listed at the moment, all flippers trying to take advantage before Basel and possible supply rise.

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/search?q=116610

I noticed this on the weekend too, ridiculous prices at the moment but i guess people are still stumping up the cash.

[jjhansen]

From a small dealer about 90 miles from Mpls. Stopped in on a whim and there it was.

[BillA]

Also checkout some of the FS posts on this forum for Batman, prices for LNIB at List or close to it

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Golf&Watches

Thankfully the Aquawart it is not, the most awful (IMO) PP.

Stop trying to make Aquawart happen, it never will, it's more popular than ever.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by cdbeaver66

I noticed this on the weekend too, ridiculous prices at the moment but i guess people are still stumping up the cash.

Hope the tide is turning, five unsold on there now for first time in ages, and one of those 2017s has been there for over 2 months now.

[aquatimerfla]

Watch forums are blowing up with threads talking about availability all of a sudden. WUS, Timezone, TRF.

Its clear Rolex is back in business of selling watches from ADS to customers. I feel bad for the one's who paid BLNR 116610LV premiums the past 3-4 months.

[Seaswirl]

Originally Posted by aquatimerfla

Watch forums are blowing up with threads talking about availability all of a sudden. WUS, Timezone, TRF.

Its clear Rolex is back in business of selling watches from ADS to customers. I feel bad for the one's who paid BLNR 116610LV premiums the past 3-4 months.

Do you feel bad for them? Really? In post 6 of this thread you write LMAO regarding those who might have recently over paid. Classy.

[aquatimerfla]

Originally Posted by Seaswirl

Do you feel bad for them? Really? In post 6 of this thread you write LMAO regarding those who might have recently over paid. Classy.

Correct. Heres what I originally wrote:

Something happened this past year w Rolex. I know many want the limited supply and grey market premiums but it was never like that in the past and probably will not be in the future as well. Bubble just burst. Lack of patience cost alot of people alot of money.

Lmao

I do feel bad that the greys/flippers duped them. If people dont panic and dont pay than the prices would not have been so outrageous.

Supply in demand??? For a current model? spare me. Rolex makes 1 million watches per year.

Already this year a few have picked up Daytonas @ MSRP FROM ADS.

[cdbeaver66]

Originally Posted by AK797

Hope the tide is turning, five unsold on there now for first time in ages, and one of those 2017s has been there for over 2 months now.

Let’s hope so.


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[Mezz72]

Maybe rolex down the line in the last quarter to increase capacity for 2018. Those in the manufacturing industry should find this a very possible reason? Just saying.


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[coolaking]

Still don't understand why Rolex would hold supply at Christmas which is surely the busiest retail time and flood the market in January when nobody has any cash and we are doing our tax returns in the UK!

Doesn't matter to me as I got the call for my Daytona last week - from a UK AD

[Duende01]

This gives more credence to the fact that Rolex might have just reached its sales goals for the year and had no intentions of increasing production just to appease the masses at TRF (do we even make a 0.5% of their consumer base? Who knows?). It had been stated and discussed more than once on this very forum. To me, that sounds like a strong plan to not flood the market with items that will go unsold.

BTW, a lot of these companies close for the holidays. I was just in Glashütte right before the New Year and stopped by Glashütte Original, Wempe, Nomos, and A. Lange & Sohne and they were all closed. The guards at Glashütte Originals were kind enough to let me go in and look thru their main lobby where they had a nice display of their collection.

[jaydav2306]

I've still never seen a SS Daytona, BLNR, DBLUE etc in an ADs window.

I have only ever seen 1 LVc sitting in a shop windows in Westfield Stratford in London a year ago and boy do I WISH i had bought that now.

It's all just hype at the moment and until Basel of course greys are going to say this model and that model are going to be discontinued, it's in their interest to