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Old 3 April 2018, 03:23 AM   #31
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it does look like a replica or fake
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:23 AM   #32
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Serious note, a few things really do look suspect on this watch, especially on the first pic. Card looks fine.
Almost shaking here... But it is, believe it or not, the same watch in both pictures.
Does the second look good?
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:24 AM   #33
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Wow, the 1st picture reminds me of a replica TT Sub Maxi dial I've encountered before in the infamous flea market in Petaling Street ,Kuala Lumpur. That watch was of a high grade Swiss made Rolex Clone Solid 904L SS 18K YG PVD plated, Swiss made ceramic insert, the Crown was atypical like this one, the Arabic numerals on the diving scale were subtly different esp the '3' in 30 , and the '4' in 40
Careful, they just outlawed fake news in Malaysia, punishable by up to six years in jail.
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:25 AM   #34
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Shine a UV on the card if you have one
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:30 AM   #35
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Looks to me like it could just be the angle of the picture making the Cyclops look off like that. Can you put the watch on a flat surface and take a photo straight on?
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:30 AM   #36
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i am 99% sure its a replica.
you are 99% wrong my friend. The watch is perfectly fine. It has gen dial, gen insert, gen bracelet, gen crystal. The case is also genuine as it has the latest matrix rehaut.
The crystal could have easily been replaced with a service one and maybe at that time it wasnt aligned perfectly.
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:33 AM   #37
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The warranty card is correct and the watch also looks original.
No need to worry, the first photo that did not look nice, but need not worry.
For me everything is 100%
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:38 AM   #38
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you are 99% wrong my friend. The watch is perfectly fine. It has gen dial, gen insert, gen bracelet, gen crystal. The case is also genuine as it has the latest matrix rehaut.
The crystal could have easily been replaced with a service one and maybe at that time it wasnt aligned perfectly.
I agree. I think there are some people here, who are appearing to speak from a position of knowledge and authority, yet are unnecessarily alarming the OP with their misstatements of fact. Something is off with the crystal/cyclops, but I see no basis for the replica/fake claims. Pretty reckless claims, in my opinion. Maybe some apologies in order.
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:42 AM   #39
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This is quite a common problem. I had my sub date cyclops replaced because the date was not magnified 2.5x and also the bezel adjusted because it wasn't perfectly alligned with the counters. I've seen another member posting recently on the date magnifier problem. Also my GMT2 master had the same exact problem as you have. Just bring it back to RSC and it will be rectified.
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:44 AM   #40
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Careful, they just outlawed fake news in Malaysia, punishable by up to six years in jail.
I'm very impressed you're following the current news in Malaysia.Yes, The Anti Fake News legislation(as a preventive measure against the spread of unverified or fake news) was just passed in Parliament today ahead of the general elections and yes, it carries a heavy punishment of upto 6 years in prison and a maximum fine worth 14 Rolex GMT Master II Pepsi Ref 126710 BLRO at MSRP !!
On the other hand, Petaling Street is a very well known flea market in the heart of KL
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:47 AM   #41
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I'm very impressed you're following the current news in Malaysia.Yes, The Anti Fake News legislation(as a preventive measure against the spread of unverified or fake news) was just passed in Parliament today ahead of the general elections and yes, it carries a heavy punishment of upto 6 years in prison and a maximum fine worth 14 Rolex GMT Master II Pepsi Ref 126710 BLRO at MSRP !!
On the other hand, Petaling Street is a very well known flea market in the heart of KL
Lol
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:48 AM   #42
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i am 99% sure its a replica.
Looks fake to me as well, although I'm far from an expert. The "4" is a little off, the machining of the ridges in the rotating bezel isn't right, hands aren't correct (or at least not original), etc. That said, pics are VERY often deceiving and you'll be taking it in anyway to get the cyclops fixed, so you'll have a resolution soon anyway.

Edit: I take some of that back, I think it may just be the angle of your photos. If your hands are indeed YG, you're probably golden! Apologies for any heart in throat caused!
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:48 AM   #43
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How does it look like a replica? The first pic was probably taken at an angle where the gold markers don't seem gold. People who are saying it's fake aren't backing anything up as to why it's fake. If you look at his subsequent pics, seems fine.


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Old 3 April 2018, 03:51 AM   #44
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It is tremendously ridiculous how people blurt out ridiculous claims about this piece being fake.

I just bought an 116613LB just like this one and mine appears crooked as well.
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Old 3 April 2018, 03:53 AM   #45
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Wow, can you take a look at the other picture I posted?
I won't be making any comments on the second photo but for total peace of mind, I suggest that you bring your watch to the RSC for a thorough examination since you bought it preowned
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Old 3 April 2018, 04:02 AM   #46
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Don‘t get too worried. The cyclops on my Exp II is also ever so slightly off. It doesn‘t bother me, though and no, it‘s not a fake
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Old 3 April 2018, 04:07 AM   #47
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Looks real, esp the second pic.

I've had maybe 1 in 4 Rolexes with wonky Cyclops so it is very common. A little wonk is fine but that seems excessive so needs changing.
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Old 3 April 2018, 04:23 AM   #48
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Could just be the angle - in this pic my Cyclops looks 'off' but viewed straight on I can assure you it's perfect.

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Old 3 April 2018, 04:27 AM   #49
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Card is fine

Watch also seems ok. Iíve looked at it for a while, comparing it to mine. The alignment of the dial looks fine.

My only reservation is the dial font and line markers look a little thin. But that could just be your photos

So currently the cyclops is the only thing thats off

Thing is that wouldnít have passed rolex QC

Donít panic, enquire first
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Old 3 April 2018, 04:42 AM   #50
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My cyclops on my BLNR is crooked too. Sent it to RSC in Toronto a couple weeks ago. Looks like this kind of stuff slips past Rolex QC every so often.
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Old 3 April 2018, 07:02 AM   #51
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Maybe ask for a new crystal may be worth checking to see if it has the little Rolex crown engraved in glass? Not sure they had it on this model though?
Other than that nice watch I think, I wouldn’t worry too much.
If it was a replica the serial number wouldn’t look as crisp as that on the Rehaut.
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Old 3 April 2018, 07:15 AM   #52
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Hello,

I have noticed that the cyclops on my new Sub is not perfectly aligned. Is this something that happens? Should I find it acceptable
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EDIT:

Iīm adding this picture, of the same watch to my original post!

Yes it does happen from time to time.
Your example appears to be at the very extreme end of the spectrum.
Take it back and ask RSC to rectify the issue if it bugs you.
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Old 3 April 2018, 07:16 AM   #53
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Looks real, esp the second pic.

I've had maybe 1 in 4 Rolexes with wonky Cyclops so it is very common. A little wonk is fine but that seems excessive so needs changing.
Yep - I've seen alot of wonky cyclops. Some are acceptable as its hardly perceivable but this one is quite bad.

Send it to RSC they will fix it.
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Old 3 April 2018, 07:26 PM   #54
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I've also had my hulk cyclops ever so slightly off. the lady at RSC looked at the cyclops positioning for a good 2 minutes and whilst she did not think i was crazy, she seemed to think it was aligned properly.

Like other members here have mentioned, it is rather common.. take it to RSC to have it re-aligned, and if watch or part is not genuine, you would also know there and then.
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Old 3 April 2018, 08:11 PM   #55
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At RSC, do they realign the cyclops alone or change it together with the crystal?
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Old 4 April 2018, 12:21 AM   #56
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Cyclops not perfectly aligned on Submariner

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i am 99% sure its a replica.


You are wrong. The watch is a gen. Even if the first pic looks off, it is 100% gen. Why do you think it is a rep? Look at the dial, hands and LEC. They are obvious check point for rep and gen.
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Old 4 April 2018, 02:41 AM   #57
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I'm not certain about the alignment of the cyclops; get a straight on photo for us. If that is the case with the first photo then I'd get it taken care of ASAP just so it doesn't bug you.. As far as fake or real. Almost any photo of a real Rolex will yield comments that it's a fake. I think there are those who don't believe that there are real Rolexes that people own.
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Old 4 April 2018, 02:49 AM   #58
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It's not a replica what are you guys talking about. It's 100 percent authentic some of you should not be talking unless you know what your talking about.

Op rsc will hook you up
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Old 6 April 2018, 10:52 PM   #59
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Cyclops does look slightly off in the pics, but the watch is 100% gen.

See if you can find the laser etched crown, could the be that the crystal needs to be realigned.
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Old 10 April 2018, 01:58 AM   #60
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OP said this was preowned right? So chances are the crystal has been replaced, probably by someone who didn't pay enough attention detail. Or, if it is the original crystal, it's obviously way off of Rolex specs.
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