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Old 23 April 2021, 10:21 PM   #1
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Case and Lug Size Differences Between 3 Versions of Batman GMT Master II

Hello guys

Because of the contradicting information over the net as well as the forum I got confused about whether there is any case size difference between;

- 2013 Batman 2013 116710BLNR (with Oyster Bracelet)
- 2019 Batman 126710BLNR (with Jubilee Bracelet)
- 2021 Batman 126710BLNR (with Oyster Bracelet)

According to the previous topics on the forum some said that 126710BLNR (with Jubilee bracelet) had slimmer lugs and case body comparing to 116710BLNR (with Oyster Bracelet), and some said that lugs of these two models are the same but the Jubilee bracelet itself was making the look of the lugs thinner and tells nothing about the case body thickness with the new movement.

First I would like to know which of these two different information is the right one.

Secondly, I would like to know whether the new (the most recent) 2021 Batman 126710BLNR (with Oyster Bracelet) has exactly same size
1- Case body thickness 2- lug thickness as the 2019 Batman 126710BLNR (with Jubilee Bracelet)?

I can accept that the 2021 Batman 126710BLNR (with Oyster Bracelet) is very recent and nobody would not have any experience yet, but according to the Official Rolex Website (Configure Your Rolex) link when you keep moving between the Jubilee and Oyster, the watch size (in terms of lug thickness) appears same on the interface..So I believe Rolex to be very sensitive at giving the customer right information with their product configuration interface at their official website.

I would appreciate your responses.
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Old 23 April 2021, 10:44 PM   #2
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I believe if you measures the lugs at the end between the 11 vs the 12 it would be fractions of a mm smaller on the 12. I think the lug profile on the 12 over all is slimmer giving the appearance it's much thinner then it actually is.



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Old 24 April 2021, 06:30 AM   #3
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I believe if you measures the lugs at the end between the 11 vs the 12 it would be fractions of a mm smaller on the 12. I think the lug profile on the 12 over all is slimmer giving the appearance it's much thinner then it actually is.



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Old 24 April 2021, 07:01 AM   #4
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Batman Returns case is exactly the same as Batgirl case. The OG Batman is different.
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Old 25 April 2021, 01:24 AM   #5
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Batman Returns case is exactly the same as Batgirl case. The OG Batman is different.
That was my second question, thank you very much for the quick reply.

You can say that from Rolex Website (Watch Configurator) that the case remains same regardless of the bracelet when you play with the configuration feature?
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Old 25 April 2021, 01:28 AM   #6
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Batman Returns case is exactly the same as Batgirl case. The OG Batman is different.
Is Batman Returns the general consensus name for it now? Haha that cracks me up.
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Old 25 April 2021, 01:31 AM   #7
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Batman, Batgirl, Batman returns lol
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Old 25 April 2021, 10:59 PM   #8
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I will enquire for one. will see when and if I will get one.
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Old 28 April 2021, 12:10 AM   #9
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Interesting...

I have a 116710 c. 2016 w/ Oyster bracelet.
So what is actually being said here? Is the Oyster bracelet different or only the Lugs when compared to the Oyster bracelet used on the 126710?
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Old 28 April 2021, 12:12 AM   #10
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Batman Returns is an awesome nickname for it lol
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Old 28 April 2021, 12:23 AM   #11
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When the BLRO was released in 2018 Rolex implied that the case/lugs were somehow different. When people started receiving them and actually measuring them with calipers there was NO difference from the existing LN and BLNR GMT’s other than the size and placement of the springbars. People began swapping bracelets using the springbars that came with that bracelet.
I don’t know why the myth that the lugs were slimmed down or reshaped has persisted, it was debunked by June of 2018.

PS: I owned an Oyster BLNR when my BLRO came in. Never swapped or removed bracelets but no visible differences in the case/lugs were present.
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Old 28 April 2021, 02:00 AM   #12
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When the BLRO was released in 2018 Rolex implied that the case/lugs were somehow different. When people started receiving them and actually measuring them with calipers there was NO difference from the existing LN and BLNR GMT’s other than the size and placement of the springbars. People began swapping bracelets using the springbars that came with that bracelet.
I don’t know why the myth that the lugs were slimmed down or reshaped has persisted, it was debunked by June of 2018.

PS: I owned an Oyster BLNR when my BLRO came in. Never swapped or removed bracelets but no visible differences in the case/lugs were present.
This is incorrect. Bracelet is 20mm on both watches. 126710 case is different from 116710. Lugs are slightly slimmer and shape is a bit different.
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Old 28 April 2021, 04:41 AM   #13
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This is incorrect. Bracelet is 20mm on both watches. 126710 case is different from 116710. Lugs are slightly slimmer and shape is a bit different.
If you search back to mid 2018 you will find a couple of threads where people actually measured them, they were not different.
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Old 28 April 2021, 04:51 AM   #14
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Dumb, Dumber, Dumberer is what these nicknames have become.

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Old 28 April 2021, 05:06 AM   #15
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Dumb, Dumber, Dumberer is what these nicknames have become.

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love em or hate em it's the world we live in. Most AD SAs call them by their nicknames. Last time I asked about a BLNR I got a completely blank stare

Even the Rolex.com search function recognizes Batman. But not Batgirl haha.
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Old 28 April 2021, 05:14 AM   #16
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Batgirl/Batman Returns vs OG Batman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tuz-sFTkHY&t=4s
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Old 28 April 2021, 09:28 AM   #17
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Batgirl/Batman Returns vs OG Batman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tuz-sFTkHY&t=4s
Yes this is the video. I’ve posted it before too. The lug shape is different on the 12 series. The Batman returns has the same new case the 126710BLNR had hence the new reference number. Just look at the watches closely and you’ll see.
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