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Old 5 March 2022, 10:23 PM   #31
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Have to agree but many today look at watches through Rolex blinked glasses,and have know idea what they are talking about.
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Old 5 March 2022, 10:25 PM   #32
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a PM watch, is a PM watch, and should demand a premium if its a seiko, Tudor, Tag, etc., now resale may not be the same but cost of materials is a big factor.
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Old 6 March 2022, 02:08 AM   #33
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Dude, Tudor brand is almost 100 years old and started manufcature in mid 40ties.

Tudor was founded much earlier than the hype over Rolex that is today. Plenty of people who own and buy Rolex also own Tudor not just because it is “available”. To say that Hans founded Tudor century ago to fool/force You to buy “a poor man’s Rolex” is well…. wrong.


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This post above is a "drop mic" comment and truly demonstrates an understanding of the history of horology.

I own both brands and have for more than 40 years. My choices have nothing to do with price point of either one. Anyone who thinks Tudor exists as a poor man's Rolex could not consider themselves a WIS and should refrain from claiming so.
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Old 6 March 2022, 02:52 AM   #34
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“ I'm sorry, but a solid yellow gold Tudor really does scream poor man's Rolex to me”

In stopped reading the rest of the message after this bullshit




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Old 6 March 2022, 02:58 AM   #35
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Its now $16K+ check the web site.
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Old 6 March 2022, 04:01 AM   #36
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Have to agree but many today look at watches through Rolex blinked glasses,and have know idea what they are talking about.
totally agree! Blinded by a whole lot of tunnel vision....Im wearing a beautiful Tudor right now and loving every moment of it just as I do my Rolexes..
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Old 6 March 2022, 07:07 AM   #37
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"Poor man's Rolex" screams your ignorance out loud...

But...you do you.
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Old 6 March 2022, 07:14 AM   #38
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12 Grand for a Tudor?

I actually like Tudor for the watches they make. Is that a thing?


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Old 6 March 2022, 07:16 AM   #39
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Tudor is Tudor and Rolex is Rolex. Two different brands and two different discussions.
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Old 6 March 2022, 07:16 AM   #40
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“ I'm sorry, but a solid yellow gold Tudor really does scream poor man's Rolex to me”

In stopped reading the rest of the message after this bullshit
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Old 6 March 2022, 07:30 AM   #41
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for those that have to have a solid gold sports watch its actually not too bad
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Old 6 March 2022, 08:15 AM   #42
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Love the watch, hate the price.
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Old 6 March 2022, 08:26 AM   #43
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OP has image issues. Others do not. I sold a SubC for a BB58 because I like it more. If the BB58 gold had an integrated bracelet I’d consider it.
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Old 6 March 2022, 03:21 PM   #44
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I don’t understand debating brand status, but okay.
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Old 6 March 2022, 03:23 PM   #45
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Love the watch, hate the price.

Indeed, I can not justify paying more for this than I did for my two tone CHNR. If it had a bracelet, maybe.


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Old 6 March 2022, 03:54 PM   #46
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Arguably nicer and more modern updated watches.

The silver BB58 and Titanium Pelagius are something Rolex would likely never do.

70 hour PR
More agreeable lug profile
Variety of colors.

a gold Rolex or a gold Tudor, same difference to me, both are dressing up a SS sports watch to allow a steep price increase.
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Old 6 March 2022, 03:59 PM   #47
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Put a full gold bracelet and solid caseback on this model and I'm all over it. The watch doesn't make sense to me on a strap while showing off a bland movement.
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…for 12k they don’t even give you a solid gold case back! cheap skates!
Exactly what do you get when you buy a 12K Gold Rolex? Nothing!
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Old 7 March 2022, 08:52 PM   #49
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Tudor was making solid gold watches in the 1950s and 1960s. Just FYI.
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Old 8 March 2022, 12:29 AM   #50
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You do realize that Rolex is really a mid tier luxury watch maker right? Stop putting it on pedestal.

Just because it is a hype brand right now does not make it any more luxurious. Tudor is doing exactly what Rolex is doing. Riding the watch wave and trying to upscale the brand.
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Old 8 March 2022, 12:36 AM   #51
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Exactly! Unfortunately people who know nothing about watches think otherwise, and this forum is now populated with people who know nothing about watches and everything about brands.

I know someone who has a massive collection of serious pieces and a deep understanding of watch history, easily a $20-30m collection. The watch i see him wear most is a Pelagos.



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You do realize that Rolex is really a mid tier luxury watch maker right? Stop putting it on pedestal.

Just because it is a hype brand right now does not make it any more luxurious. Tudor is doing exactly what Rolex is doing. Riding the watch wave and trying to upscale the brand.
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Old 8 March 2022, 01:00 AM   #52
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People should buy what they want. I don't want to hear anything that $12k is entry level. I think it was an interesting watch, some people just prefer Tudor. If it had a blue dial I would probably save up for it. Maybe that is the how Rolex differentiates from Tudor where Rolex usually reserves blue for precious metals.
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Old 8 March 2022, 01:07 AM   #53
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I haven’t logged in for a while… this thread just reminded me why
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:04 AM   #54
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I think in 5-10 years, people will miss the days that they could get a nice Tudor for a few grand.

As for the solid gold bb58, it's not my cup of tea. Just design/looks wise, but I don't see an issue with it being available in their catalogue. I'll stick with my steel bb58!
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:12 AM   #55
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not sure if this comment is relevant or not, but I paid top dollar for a 9411 and I have no regrets. I wear it more than any other watch I have (and for those of you wondering what the watch collection is, it includes 5 rolexes). I never really got caught up in the "poor man's rolex" argument. That is stupid one and you cannot win when arguing against stupid.
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Old 8 March 2022, 03:03 AM   #56
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“ I'm sorry, but a solid yellow gold Tudor really does scream poor man's Rolex to me”

In stopped reading the rest of the message after this bullshit
Yep.
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