New from AD??

[Hillg2784]

How difficult is it to get a new RO from an AD? I called the closest one which is NY. Before I could be registered or placed on a waiting list I would need to visit the store in person, which is about 5 hours away. Before I spend money and time making a trip to NYC for a weekend, I wanted to see if I am just wasting my time???


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[value.target]

I've heard it is very hard to get a RO as your first watch in NYC boutiques!

[huncho]

which RO? most likely a waste of time though

[dkg1616]

The grey market on RO has come down very significantly…better off flying to NY and hitting the diamond district to buy one on the spot.

[dchang81]

If you're going to NYC and doing other stuff like going to a nice dinner or a show etc sure. But just to visit AP , hell no.

[messikens]

Don't waste your time. Buy one grey and get it tomorrow... Much better ways to spend time and money

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by messikens

Don't waste your time. Buy one grey and get it tomorrow... Much better ways to spend time and money

100%. Don’t waste your time. Locals have tried for years and haven’t gotten ROs as their first

[Hillg2784]

That’s what I was thinking. I want the RO 38 stainless and I’m sure it’s not the most thought after RO but a RO nonetheless and will be hard to get.


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[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by Hillg2784

That’s what I was thinking. I want the RO 38 stainless and I’m sure it’s not the most thought after RO but a RO nonetheless and will be hard to get.


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You can buy this new for under MSRP + tax right now

[SN2354]

NYC quoted me 20 years for a 26715, about 10-12 years on a RO 15550

I went grey and got a 15300

[rjohnston713]

Originally Posted by SN2354

NYC quoted me 20 years for a 26715, about 10-12 years on a RO 15550

I went grey and got a 15300

These are wild numbers. I was on the list for Atlanta for over 2 years for both these references and got nowhere and then the boutique closed. They are opening another here but would just be starting the process all over again.

[Hillg2784]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

You can buy this new for under MSRP + tax right now

Where?


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[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by Hillg2784

Where?


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Moda

Also depends if blue or grey, but grey definitely. I just got brand new white 26240ST for under (by a few hundred)

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

Moda

Also depends if blue or grey, but grey definitely. I just got brand new white 26240ST for under (by a few hundred)

Nice? That one traded? I am so happy to see new ROs below retail again

[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Nice? That one traded? I am so happy to see new ROs below retail again

Ya I picked one up two weeks ago. Got 17 on trade for my white SkyD (which is super generous) and traded in at $41.5 value of 26240ST

[rjohnston713]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

Moda

Also depends if blue or grey, but grey definitely. I just got brand new white 26240ST for under (by a few hundred)

How is buying on Moda? I am part of the group and have followed a long time but have never bought as it it seemed a lot less secure than something like Chrono. Is it pretty reputable?

[Gandor]

Originally Posted by rjohnston713

How is buying on Moda? I am part of the group and have followed a long time but have never bought as it it seemed a lot less secure than something like Chrono. Is it pretty reputable?

MODA is just a bunch of dudes selling to each other. It's ripe for fraud with no recourse. If you're already spending 5-6 figures on a watch it makes no sense to save 10% on a shady sale.

[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by Gandor

MODA is just a bunch of dudes selling to each other. It's ripe for fraud with no recourse. If you're already spending 5-6 figures on a watch it makes no sense to save 10% on a shady sale.

You are very wrong and ill informed. While yes there are “dudes” just selling to each other, most big names are legit brick and mortar stores or wholesalers. You are just too accustomed to the DavidSW model. There is no difference to buying / selling from someone like chase from Nashville watch…

I’d trust moda vs TRF any day of the week. At the end of the day you gotta buy the seller…and just like there are TRF dealers there are Moda ones who do millions a year in watch sales.

[TheMethod]

Originally Posted by rjohnston713

These are wild numbers. I was on the list for Atlanta for over 2 years for both these references and got nowhere and then the boutique closed. They are opening another here but would just be starting the process all over again.

Yeah, I was surprised that the one in Lenox closed; I believe they were run by Watches of Switzerland, and the new AP that will open up in Buckhead Village will be run by AP themselves.

[Emery]

Originally Posted by Gandor

MODA is just a bunch of dudes selling to each other. It's ripe for fraud with no recourse. If you're already spending 5-6 figures on a watch it makes no sense to save 10% on a shady sale.

You should know by now Moda is primarily a B2B/wholesale platform.

[Hillg2784]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

Moda

Also depends if blue or grey, but grey definitely. I just got brand new white 26240ST for under (by a few hundred)

Excuse my ignorance but what is Moda?


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[neal.jy]

Originally Posted by Hillg2784

How difficult is it to get a new RO from an AD? I called the closest one which is NY. Before I could be registered or placed on a waiting list I would need to visit the store in person, which is about 5 hours away. Before I spend money and time making a trip to NYC for a weekend, I wanted to see if I am just wasting my time???


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Very few things are impossible - if you do make the trip, your chances will definitely be better than they would be if you don’t make the trip. If you do go, I recommend going to the AP House instead of the boutique - they have a small museum of sorts there that is worth checking out, and they usually have some exhibition pieces to try on.

Other route is to go grey as others have suggested.


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[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by Hillg2784

Excuse my ignorance but what is Moda?


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Facebook group of watch traders/sellers

[rjohnston713]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

You are very wrong and ill informed. While yes there are “dudes” just selling to each other, most big names are legit brick and mortar stores or wholesalers. You are just too accustomed to the DavidSW model. There is no difference to buying / selling from someone like chase from Nashville watch…

I’d trust moda vs TRF any day of the week. At the end of the day you gotta buy the seller…and just like there are TRF dealers there are Moda ones who do millions a year in watch sales.

What is the DavidSW biz model? Oddly enough I just stumbled across one of their Chrono listings.

[dkg1616]

Originally Posted by rjohnston713

What is the DavidSW biz model? Oddly enough I just stumbled across one of their Chrono listings.

High service, good marketing, etc.

[Rockland]

I got a Royal Oak as my first offering from the Atlanta boutique in 2020. Then waited 4 years to be offered an offshore.

[abrosz]

You’re wasting your time in NYC. The sales associates string you along trying to convince you that you have a chance at a RO, but steer every conversation to a Code. I had an hour long conversation with Natalie, the NYC manager a couple months ago.

New clients can’t get any RO with a blue or green dial.

She refuses to provide any estimate, however remote, on timing of anything

You can’t get a RO in precious metal.

She generally doesn’t know what she’ll have for sale or when because LeBrassus doesn’t communicate it to her.

Gray dial RO is a possibility, everything else is “very difficult.” If you hear those words, walk away.

Even if you buy a Code at retail, she makes no promises on a RO.

ROs are sold based on a tiered allocation system that favors big spenders.

My sales associate told me that of the “thousands” of clients he’s had, he’s only sold a RO to a new client twice in six years. But rest assured, I’m going to stand out as the guy he’s going to “advocate for” among “thousands” buyers. I’m not sure how any of the SAs keep their prospective clients straight.

Regardless of whether you’re offered something, the brand collects a whole lot of personal information to build a profile on you and market things to you it has no intention of offering. After learning all this, I had my “profile” deleted. No sense in having all that personal information out there when a sale isn’t likely.

The pursuit of a RO in Chicago and Dallas is the same. The guy in Chicago told me I was wasting my time.

Go gray. You might spend a bit more, but a) you’ll have your watch, and b) it’ll probably cost less in the long run than buying things you don’t want (I.e. Codes) with no guarantee you’ll ever be offered what you want.

[creid213]

Originally Posted by Gandor

MODA is just a bunch of dudes selling to each other. It's ripe for fraud with no recourse. If you're already spending 5-6 figures on a watch it makes no sense to save 10% on a shady sale.

Lol, 6 figure deals occurring daily with dozens of brick and mortar dealers backing up and vouching deals with their own money. Grow up Peter Pan

[Bartolo]

I would not recommend a trip to the NYC boutique in hopes of acquiring a RO as a first-time AP purchaser. The odds against them ever delivering a watch to you are just too great.

As many others here have said, I too would go gray/used from a reputable seller at this time and in this market.

[0nly5iv3Digits]

Originally Posted by dkg1616

Moda

Also depends if blue or grey, but grey definitely. I just got brand new white 26240ST for under (by a few hundred)

+1. Moda is by invitation only now. Has been for a little bit. Too late for OP to get in, but yes, Moda is excellent. No platform is perfect, but most are solid in the group.