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RLXSTR · 23 July 2010, 06:18 AM

Normally I do not burst the bubble of a potential Rolex owner, but today...I did it in a whisper. A couple comes in to look for another Rolex for himself. He stated that he has a DeepSea and wanted to look for something more of an everyday Rolex. No problem, I'll show you what I have. He then asks me what is the DeepSea worth right now. I saw the DSSD on his wrist and asked him if I could see it. So he removed it from his wrist and handed it too me.

I inspected the watch and right in front of him...I spun the caseback off...with my fingers. I lended over the counter in a whisper and said..."You see this 'gold' movement? It's not Rolex. You also cannot spin the caseback off with your fingers on a any Rolex, let alone a DeepSea. As to it's worth, about $200." He asked me how I know it's not real. I told him, you should not be able to spin the back off a DSSD as the watch is rated at 12,800ft...and the movements are not gold plated. I showed him some other characteristics why it wasn't real.

He was very calm about the whole thing, which told me...he already knew he bought a fake. I told him if he did indeed buy it under the assumption it was real, I'd go back to where you bought it and have a word with the salesperson.

....and that has been the 3rd fake today....a stainless ladies prez and a stainless ladies masterpiece....hmmmm....

HockeyBrand · 23 July 2010, 06:21 AM

Still $200 for that?

Always buy from AD or reputable TRF Sellers!

Evan614 · 23 July 2010, 06:34 AM

Let me see if I understand you.
1)he wanted to trade is DSSD in for another watch (that is why he asked what it was worth)
2) he knew it was a fake.
so (3) he was trying to screw you over.

nice catch

Johny · 23 July 2010, 06:38 AM

3 fakes in one day perhaps a team of conmen doing the rounds.

smallcandle · 23 July 2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan614

Let me see if I understand you.
1)he wanted to trade is DSSD in for another watch (that is why he asked what it was worth)
2) he knew it was a fake.
so (3) he was trying to screw you over.

nice catch

Exactly what I was thinking!

RLXSTR · 23 July 2010, 06:59 AM

No he wasn't trying to trade it in...because he stated he spent $9300 for it...w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r....

The other two fakes were from one woman...as she opens to little bitty box and says, here is my Rolex it's very delicate....Yeah....okay...

HockeyBrand · 23 July 2010, 07:00 AM

I can imagine the scene in Grifters when John Cusak's character tried to make change from his $20 (switching it to a $1 or $5?) and then promptly got his hand smashed with a Baseball bat by the Bartender!

Good to hear he wasn't trying to scam.

RLXSTR · 23 July 2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HockeyBrand

I can imagine the scene in Grifters when John Cusak's character tried to make change from his $20 (switching it to a $1 or $5?) and then promptly got his hand smashed with a Baseball bat by the Bartender!

Good to hear he wasn't trying to scam.

He was shocked on how much I knew...especially when I tell people, I used to sell Rolex's 30 years ago and they look at me like....huh?

HockeyBrand · 23 July 2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HoustonGoldExchange

He was shocked on how much I knew...especially when I tell people, I used to sell Rolex's 30 years ago and they look at me like....huh?

You sold Rolexes when you were 10?!

RLXSTR · 23 July 2010, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HockeyBrand

You sold Rolexes when you were 10?!

Huh....yeah....

Remind me to book you on Letterman.

Captainz · 23 July 2010, 07:22 AM

He Don! Nice catch!

BTW, u look twenty years younger clean shaven

Looks good!

Al

RLXSTR · 23 July 2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainz

He Don! Nice catch!

BTW, u look twenty years younger clean shaven

Looks good!

Al

Thanks Al....you hitting on me?

rolexnovice · 23 July 2010, 07:37 AM

A couple came in you say..? Sounds like those conmen/women are becoming craftier by the second. I'm glad you were not the mark.

RLXSTR · 23 July 2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexnovice

A couple came in you say..? Sounds like those conmen/women are becoming craftier by the second. I'm glad you were not the mark.

I don't think they were trying to con me...but trying to be somebody they weren't.

No one gets past me on replica's...I make no bones about it. Most of the time I can tell by feel, others...I will do the full blown 'visor/goggles' scenario.

The most popular fakes that I see come in are DSSD's, Masterpiece Pearlmasters, 2-tone DJ's and Cartier Tanks.

It is amazing the brand of watches that are brought in to sell. I'm interested in most, but the probably the #1 watch I always turn down is a Jacobs & Co. There is no market for the over-blinged watches. My wholesale outlets won't even buy them.

I had a former NBA player come in one day with 2 Franck Muller watches he paid $70,000 for...fully encrusted diamond cases. I told him, I would only take them on consignment. To try to find a buyer for those, is like trying to sell a Bentley to a homeless guy.

Captainz · 23 July 2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonGoldExchange

Thanks Al....you hitting on me?

echau · 23 July 2010, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyBrand

Still $200 for that?

Always buy from AD or reputable TRF Sellers!

$200 + your dignity.

1340jas · 23 July 2010, 10:36 PM

You would have been the mark if you had not shown a good deal of knowledge. a good con will continue even when he thinks he's been rumbled. He doesn't want the cops called. I wonder how many other shops they tried in the area?

RLXSTR · 24 July 2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 1340jas

You would have been the mark if you had not shown a good deal of knowledge. a good con will continue even when he thinks he's been rumbled. He doesn't want the cops called. I wonder how many other shops they tried in the area?

The Houston Police Department sits behind me at my Rolex counter...all day long....

23 July 2010, 06:34 AM	#3
Evan614 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckeye Nation Watch: out 4 Panerai bug Posts: 414	Let me see if I understand you. 1)he wanted to trade is DSSD in for another watch (that is why he asked what it was worth) 2) he knew it was a fake. so (3) he was trying to screw you over. nice catch __________________ #1 Two-Tone Yachtmaster, Blue -Z series #2 White Daytona SS - Z series #3 PAM 88 M Future dissolution of monetary funds will be for a Panerai 212

23 July 2010, 06:38 AM	#4
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	3 fakes in one day perhaps a team of conmen doing the rounds. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

23 July 2010, 06:59 AM	#6
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	No he wasn't trying to trade it in...because he stated he spent $9300 for it...w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r.... The other two fakes were from one woman...as she opens to little bitty box and says, here is my Rolex it's very delicate....Yeah....okay... __________________ '66 5513 Meters First \| '77 1675 Chocolate \| '85 DateJust 2-Tone \| Omega Planet Ocean Chrono XL Orange \| 1978 Omega Speedmaster 1st Walk on the Moon

23 July 2010, 07:22 AM	#11
Captainz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Aldo Location: Left Coast Watch: All of them Posts: 879	He Don! Nice catch! BTW, u look twenty years younger clean shaven Looks good! Al __________________ "The Rolex Sickness is Great, when your support group is TRF!" -CZ

23 July 2010, 06:18 AM	#1
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	Sir, it's not real... Normally I do not burst the bubble of a potential Rolex owner, but today...I did it in a whisper. A couple comes in to look for another Rolex for himself. He stated that he has a DeepSea and wanted to look for something more of an everyday Rolex. No problem, I'll show you what I have. He then asks me what is the DeepSea worth right now. I saw the DSSD on his wrist and asked him if I could see it. So he removed it from his wrist and handed it too me. I inspected the watch and right in front of him...I spun the caseback off...with my fingers. I lended over the counter in a whisper and said..."You see this 'gold' movement? It's not Rolex. You also cannot spin the caseback off with your fingers on a any Rolex, let alone a DeepSea. As to it's worth, about $200." He asked me how I know it's not real. I told him, you should not be able to spin the back off a DSSD as the watch is rated at 12,800ft...and the movements are not gold plated. I showed him some other characteristics why it wasn't real. He was very calm about the whole thing, which told me...he already knew he bought a fake. I told him if he did indeed buy it under the assumption it was real, I'd go back to where you bought it and have a word with the salesperson. ....and that has been the 3rd fake today....a stainless ladies prez and a stainless ladies masterpiece....hmmmm.... __________________ '66 5513 Meters First \| '77 1675 Chocolate \| '85 DateJust 2-Tone \| Omega Planet Ocean Chrono XL Orange \| 1978 Omega Speedmaster 1st Walk on the Moon

23 July 2010, 06:21 AM	#2
HockeyBrand Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Burnaby Posts: 265	Still $200 for that? Always buy from AD or reputable TRF Sellers!

23 July 2010, 07:00 AM	#7
HockeyBrand Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Burnaby Posts: 265	I can imagine the scene in Grifters when John Cusak's character tried to make change from his $20 (switching it to a $1 or $5?) and then promptly got his hand smashed with a Baseball bat by the Bartender! Good to hear he wasn't trying to scam.

23 July 2010, 07:37 AM	#13
rolexnovice Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: 16610 Posts: 366	A couple came in you say..? Sounds like those conmen/women are becoming craftier by the second. I'm glad you were not the mark.

23 July 2010, 10:36 PM	#17
1340jas "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: Wales Watch: SS Sub Date 'V' Posts: 199	You would have been the mark if you had not shown a good deal of knowledge. a good con will continue even when he thinks he's been rumbled. He doesn't want the cops called. I wonder how many other shops they tried in the area?

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