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YachtMaster1127 · 29 February 2012, 11:26 AM

Been reading up on this card and its amazing that people can even afford the annual fee on this card!!

dbphotos · 29 February 2012, 11:28 AM

Unless your an attention grabbing celebrity, its like fight club.

Rememer the #1 rule of fight club...

Stonedcl · 29 February 2012, 11:33 AM

I just got my first Amex sky rewards..
I think you have to spend 1 million a year to get the card..

gwalker · 29 February 2012, 11:40 AM

I thought they waived the fees on those if you exceeded $1m a year. Thought you had to spend at least a hundred k to keep it. I've got a friend who bartends in Cape May and claims to have seen 2. I know he did see one because everyone that worked at the bar saw it too. I think there are a lot more out there than used to be.

Rsvrider · 29 February 2012, 11:46 AM

The Centurion's card annual fee may seem high (about $5000) but the concierge service that comes with it is just outstanding. I do NOT have one, but I've enjoyed the services from people that do. I agree that some may think of it as a tool for attention grabbing celebrities but there are others that do need the service and find the $5k annual cheaper than say owning a private jet etc. I only have a Plat and I cant tell you how many times it has helped me on travel, booking and emergencies. Dont think of it as unlimited purchase power limited. Its all about the concierge. Bad thing is that it is by invitation only and I believe the US membership is full. Thats ok bc I dont have the $ or the need to call in and have a Lear Jet for tomo morning with tickets to a U2 concert in Venice.

mjclark32 · 29 February 2012, 11:48 AM

I've seen one. In the pro shop of a golf club in Florida keys.

DARK_KNIGHT · 29 February 2012, 11:48 AM

Its $250,000.00 min per year. Not even that gets you in the door. It's invite only.

Rsvrider · 29 February 2012, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Its $250,000.00 min per year. Not even that gets you in the door. It's invite only.

Here's some facts:
The Centurion Card, which really is all black, and made of titanium, was introduced in 1999 and is extended to consumers on an invite-only basis. There is no formula for qualifying. "It's decided person by person. The general consensus is that eligibility involves some combination of a stellar credit score, a minimum of $250,000 a year – or roughly $21,000 a month – in charges, and at least one year's history as an American Express cardholder, as well as significant net worth.

American Express is tight lipped on the details. It is confirmed that there is a one-time, $5,000 initiation fee, and a $2,500 annual fee.

toph · 29 February 2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Its $250,000.00 min per year. Not even that gets you in the door. It's invite only.

z32turbo · 29 February 2012, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsvrider

Here's some facts:
The Centurion Card, which really is all black, and made of titanium, was introduced in 1999 and is extended to consumers on an invite-only basis. There is no formula for qualifying. "It's decided person by person. The general consensus is that eligibility involves some combination of a stellar credit score, a minimum of $250,000 a year – or roughly $21,000 a month – in charges, and at least one year's history as an American Express cardholder, as well as significant net worth.

American Express is tight lipped on the details. It is confirmed that there is a one-time, $5,000 initiation fee, and a $2,500 annual fee.

Well I gues you can count me out.

Andad · 29 February 2012, 06:51 PM

I have had the basic card since 1981.
I have never found anything that I couldn't buy with it.

bayerische · 29 February 2012, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

I have had the basic card since 1981.
I have never found anything that I couldn't buy with it.

So true.

Puffy · 29 February 2012, 07:02 PM

my boss's boss has one. it's brought out and put behind the bar on special occassions

i've got a bog-standard Amex i collect airmiles with. it can buy anything from chicken to patek watches so works pretty well

dysondiver · 29 February 2012, 07:24 PM

i have a friend who once paid with his amex to fill up three chinooks , with long range tanks. needless to say it was an emergency one off purchase, and he got re embursed for the costs , , but amex offered him a black card.
another friend of mine owned a gentlemans club , a rather exclusive one , and some of his celeb clients had them , there are more about than you would first imagine.
i dont even have a credit card ,,, so im out.

bayerische · 29 February 2012, 07:35 PM

We receive about one Black Amex a month at my restaurant. So there seems to be plenty around.

GothamG8or · 29 February 2012, 10:39 PM

I do not have one but I do know that back in the early 2000s they were much easier to come by (relatively speaking). AMEX has made a concerted effort to reduce the amount of new approvals. For a while it became a celebutard status symbol what the Lidsay Lohans & other attention grabbers were using ad naseum. AMEX did not like that type of publicity for the card b/c there was somebacklash against the people it was originally meant for: wealthy, discerning, high spenders who would find value in the concierge service especially.

As entioned earlier, the rule of thumb has been a couple years of 250k+ spending per year + some level of net worth + willingness to pay the initiation & annual fee.

mboverst · 29 February 2012, 11:22 PM

It's utterly just stupid to meet the requirements as a private card holder, and get the invite on top of that.

Now it is fairly easy to get one for business. Own your own business, charge everything to your platinum, have a reasonable net worth, and you will get an invite. It's kind of like cheating, but a heck of a lot easier.

Route 66 · 29 February 2012, 11:39 PM

I don't have an Amex Black card but I do have a Costco Amex card.

Does that count?

SLRdude · 1 March 2012, 01:19 AM

I have Platinum and that's about as high as I will ever get.
Their minimum spending far exceeds my income or spending ability and I could not even afford the yearly fee! That's a damn car payment.

I have a couple of friends with black cards and I occasionally see them around here when I am out and about.

azguy · 1 March 2012, 02:00 AM

I've seen a few dozen out here in Scottsdale over the past several years, they are wierd to hold; thick, heavy and made of metal. It does make a serious statment from the heft of the card alone.

wantonebad · 1 March 2012, 02:09 AM

I've seen quite a few in the Bahamas, One and Only Beach Club, Gray Cliff, I see at least one a trip and I've been there 7-8 times.

imono · 1 March 2012, 02:17 AM

I don't even know a Black Card like that existed!
Poor me will never be in line.

rr-nyc · 1 March 2012, 02:20 AM

The criteria for invitation varies by country but in the US, you need an ave annual spend of $250k. $5000 initiation fee plus $2500 membership per year. Members get two cards, one for business and one for pleasure. One being plastic and the other titanium.

They hand them out to celebs the minute they appear on TMZ so seeing a celeb with one is far less impressive

My wife works for a super high end designer and their customers typically use Centurion cards. Occasionally, Middle Eastern Princes come in and use a visa with a diamond in it that apparently is the most exclusive of cards (9 figure net worth before qualifying is what I heard). The Princesses have the boutique bring the entire collection to their hotel suite and the next day, they pick up what wasn't chosen and one of their guards give them the cash.

On a side note, I was checking into the Danielli in Venice and everyone in front of me was holding their centurion card while I had my lowly Chase United Visa. I kinda felt odd

Tri-Tip · 1 March 2012, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveArn

I don't have an Amex Black card but I do have a Costco Amex card.

Does that count?

Me too.

3% Off on Gas purchases is really adding up!

dysondiver · 1 March 2012, 03:09 AM

On a side note, I was checking into the Danielli in Venice and everyone in front of me was holding their centurion card while I had my lowly Chase United Visa. I kinda felt odd
rennato
when im out sailing i usually have the smallest oldest boat in the marina ,,, but when i look out of the windows ,,,, i still have the same view.

gmh1013 · 1 March 2012, 03:13 AM

anymore.... but use to have an IBM issued one.
Im not going to pay money to have a credit card.

rr-nyc · 1 March 2012, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dysondiver

On a side note, I was checking into the Danielli in Venice and everyone in front of me was holding their centurion card while I had my lowly Chase United Visa. I kinda felt odd
rennato
when im out sailing i usually have the smallest oldest boat in the marina ,,, but when i look out of the windows ,,,, i still have the same view.

So true, Tom.

psv · 1 March 2012, 03:27 AM

Think about it, who in their right mind would admit to having a black Amex on an internet watch forum...

DARK_KNIGHT · 1 March 2012, 03:38 AM

One time when swiped it would not fit into the machine slot. So, everyone at the table had to pool resources (cash).

mtrunner · 1 March 2012, 03:41 AM

Really doesn't matter what American Express card you have if you are shopping somewhere that doesn't take American Express! But everyone takes VISA.

29 February 2012, 11:28 AM	#2
dbphotos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: David Location: Texas Watch: your 6! Posts: 898	Unless your an attention grabbing celebrity, its like fight club. Rememer the #1 rule of fight club... __________________ www.DavidBailey.com Rolex DD YG 18238 \| Rolex 1675 Pepsi \| Rolex 14060 \| Rolex Vintage 6694 \| Rolex TT 16013 \| Tudor Tiger 79280P on Shark strap \| a whole bunch of misc watches

29 February 2012, 11:46 AM	#5
Rsvrider "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas TX Watch: It cming frm above Posts: 807	The Centurion's card annual fee may seem high (about $5000) but the concierge service that comes with it is just outstanding. I do NOT have one, but I've enjoyed the services from people that do. I agree that some may think of it as a tool for attention grabbing celebrities but there are others that do need the service and find the $5k annual cheaper than say owning a private jet etc. I only have a Plat and I cant tell you how many times it has helped me on travel, booking and emergencies. Dont think of it as unlimited purchase power limited. Its all about the concierge. Bad thing is that it is by invitation only and I believe the US membership is full. Thats ok bc I dont have the $ or the need to call in and have a Lear Jet for tomo morning with tickets to a U2 concert in Venice. __________________ "The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday"

29 February 2012, 11:48 AM	#6
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	I've seen one. In the pro shop of a golf club in Florida keys. __________________

29 February 2012, 11:48 AM	#7
DARK_KNIGHT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jack Location: Dothan Watch: Cartier Posts: 1,236	Its $250,000.00 min per year. Not even that gets you in the door. It's invite only. __________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

29 February 2012, 06:51 PM	#11
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,947	I have had the basic card since 1981. I have never found anything that I couldn't buy with it. __________________ E

29 February 2012, 11:26 AM	#1
YachtMaster1127 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Timothy Location: Novi Watch: GMTIIc Posts: 111	Who has the Amex Black Card??? Been reading up on this card and its amazing that people can even afford the annual fee on this card!!

29 February 2012, 11:33 AM	#3
Stonedcl "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Nj Watch: 116200, 116610 Posts: 1,191	I just got my first Amex sky rewards.. I think you have to spend 1 million a year to get the card..

29 February 2012, 11:40 AM	#4
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	I thought they waived the fees on those if you exceeded $1m a year. Thought you had to spend at least a hundred k to keep it. I've got a friend who bartends in Cape May and claims to have seen 2. I know he did see one because everyone that worked at the bar saw it too. I think there are a lot more out there than used to be.

29 February 2012, 07:02 PM	#13
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	my boss's boss has one. it's brought out and put behind the bar on special occassions i've got a bog-standard Amex i collect airmiles with. it can buy anything from chicken to patek watches so works pretty well __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

29 February 2012, 07:24 PM	#14
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	i have a friend who once paid with his amex to fill up three chinooks , with long range tanks. needless to say it was an emergency one off purchase, and he got re embursed for the costs , , but amex offered him a black card. another friend of mine owned a gentlemans club , a rather exclusive one , and some of his celeb clients had them , there are more about than you would first imagine. i dont even have a credit card ,,, so im out.

29 February 2012, 07:35 PM	#15
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	We receive about one Black Amex a month at my restaurant. So there seems to be plenty around. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

29 February 2012, 10:39 PM	#16
GothamG8or Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jeff Location: NYC Posts: 238	I do not have one but I do know that back in the early 2000s they were much easier to come by (relatively speaking). AMEX has made a concerted effort to reduce the amount of new approvals. For a while it became a celebutard status symbol what the Lidsay Lohans & other attention grabbers were using ad naseum. AMEX did not like that type of publicity for the card b/c there was somebacklash against the people it was originally meant for: wealthy, discerning, high spenders who would find value in the concierge service especially. As entioned earlier, the rule of thumb has been a couple years of 250k+ spending per year + some level of net worth + willingness to pay the initiation & annual fee.

29 February 2012, 11:22 PM	#17
mboverst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Dallas Posts: 1,683	It's utterly just stupid to meet the requirements as a private card holder, and get the invite on top of that. Now it is fairly easy to get one for business. Own your own business, charge everything to your platinum, have a reasonable net worth, and you will get an invite. It's kind of like cheating, but a heck of a lot easier.

29 February 2012, 11:39 PM	#18
Route 66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: Burbank, CA Watch: 214270 Mark II Posts: 4,121	I don't have an Amex Black card but I do have a Costco Amex card. Does that count?

1 March 2012, 01:19 AM	#19
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	I have Platinum and that's about as high as I will ever get. Their minimum spending far exceeds my income or spending ability and I could not even afford the yearly fee! That's a damn car payment. I have a couple of friends with black cards and I occasionally see them around here when I am out and about. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

1 March 2012, 02:00 AM	#20
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	I've seen a few dozen out here in Scottsdale over the past several years, they are wierd to hold; thick, heavy and made of metal. It does make a serious statment from the heft of the card alone.

1 March 2012, 02:09 AM	#21
wantonebad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,843	I've seen quite a few in the Bahamas, One and Only Beach Club, Gray Cliff, I see at least one a trip and I've been there 7-8 times. __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

1 March 2012, 02:17 AM	#22
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	I don't even know a Black Card like that existed! Poor me will never be in line.

1 March 2012, 02:20 AM	#23
rr-nyc Liar & Ratbag Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: NYC / Miami Beach Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 5,344	The criteria for invitation varies by country but in the US, you need an ave annual spend of $250k. $5000 initiation fee plus $2500 membership per year. Members get two cards, one for business and one for pleasure. One being plastic and the other titanium. They hand them out to celebs the minute they appear on TMZ so seeing a celeb with one is far less impressive My wife works for a super high end designer and their customers typically use Centurion cards. Occasionally, Middle Eastern Princes come in and use a visa with a diamond in it that apparently is the most exclusive of cards (9 figure net worth before qualifying is what I heard). The Princesses have the boutique bring the entire collection to their hotel suite and the next day, they pick up what wasn't chosen and one of their guards give them the cash. On a side note, I was checking into the Danielli in Venice and everyone in front of me was holding their centurion card while I had my lowly Chase United Visa. I kinda felt odd

1 March 2012, 03:09 AM	#25
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	On a side note, I was checking into the Danielli in Venice and everyone in front of me was holding their centurion card while I had my lowly Chase United Visa. I kinda felt odd rennato when im out sailing i usually have the smallest oldest boat in the marina ,,, but when i look out of the windows ,,,, i still have the same view.

1 March 2012, 03:13 AM	#26
gmh1013 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: greg Location: Tempe AZ Watch: GMT Posts: 5,703	Im to cheap to have a green one anymore.... but use to have an IBM issued one. Im not going to pay money to have a credit card.

1 March 2012, 03:27 AM	#28
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,066	Think about it, who in their right mind would admit to having a black Amex on an internet watch forum...

1 March 2012, 03:38 AM	#29
DARK_KNIGHT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jack Location: Dothan Watch: Cartier Posts: 1,236	One time when swiped it would not fit into the machine slot. So, everyone at the table had to pool resources (cash). __________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

1 March 2012, 03:41 AM	#30
mtrunner 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,826	Really doesn't matter what American Express card you have if you are shopping somewhere that doesn't take American Express! But everyone takes VISA.

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