Grinding sound when winding - DJII

[wkhalaf]

I bought my Rolex in February 2012. Few days back and all of a sudden I wanted to wind my watch when I noticed that the crown (when winded clockwise) has a grinding (scratchy) feeling, unlike before when it was just smooth.

I took it to the AD in Bahrain and the technician took a look at the watch and said it is normal and there is nothing, but when you take the exact same DJII from display and wind it, it is totally different.

Then the AD's reasoning was that the watch might be fully winded. So i took it back home and left it in the safe box for about 1 day to unwind a bit and tried to wind it but again there was the grinding feeling.

I don't know what to do now. I know the winding feeling is not the same! I have been winding my watch almost weekly since the beginning of 2012! So i'm sure that i'm not hallucinating.

Note: I also tried to give the watch a full spin of date and time to make sure everything is alright. So did the AD.

[Andad]

Did the tech take a look at it or a look inside it?

[77T]

I'd consider a trip to another AD to look into the matter.

[wkhalaf]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Did the tech take a look at it or a look inside it?

After I insisted .. the AD took the watch inside and looked (at/in) it for about 10mins then brought it back (along with the manager) and reasoned that it might be fully winded :s

[Andad]

If you have the same problem when winding it from zero power reserve then it is not the normal mainspring slipping on the drum as it will do when fully wound.

I had a similar grinding when winding my 14060M.

It was slight wear on the auto winding mechanism.

It was an easy fix and RSC Melbourne did not charge me for the repair.

I would take it to a RSC and ask them to inspect it.

[wkhalaf]

Originally Posted by directioneng

If you have the same problem when winding it from zero power reserve then it is not the normal mainspring slipping on the drum as it will do when fully wound.

I had a similar grinding when winding my 14060M.

It was slight wear on the auto winding mechanism.

It was an easy fix and RSC Melbourne did not charge me for the repair.

I would take it to a RSC and ask them to inspect it.

Thanks for the help .. I will do that .. First I'll try to take it to another AD

and if they say that there is a problem .. I'll go to my AD which I bought the watch from and I will ask them to fix the problem.

Usually when you take it to an AD .. how long do they take to look "in" the watch itself and see if there is a problem?

[wkhalaf]

I just got the watch back from the second AD .. he said that it needs servicing and that there is a minor fixing required .. he refused however to say details. He also added that only oil is needed to make it more smooth ..

But still the winding (although a little smoother) still remains grinding

Advice anyone?

[kentrojan1]

My blnr used to have a similar problem, but I've flipped it now so problem solved lol!

[samsam]

I'd send it in to be looked at. A watch should not need service after 2 years!! I'd go back to either ADs and ask that the watch be sent to RSC for diagnostics.

[wkhalaf]

Originally Posted by SamSam

I'd send it in to be looked at. A watch should not need service after 2 years!! I'd go back to either ADs and ask that the watch be sent to RSC for diagnostics.

thanks a lot !

How much does it averagely cost to send to the RSC ? My warranty is expired.

[wkhalaf]

Originally Posted by kentrojan1

My blnr used to have a similar problem, but I've flipped it now so problem solved lol!

hahaha

[samsam]

I figured that bit. The cost of service in the US is $600 and they send you a mailing kit. I'm not quite sure about Bahrain. In Saudi Arabia, they don't have a RSC, so all work is done by the ADs in-house watchmakers. They trained few watchmakers at Rolex to do all the work, so you basically drop it off at the AD. An alternative is sending it to Dubai RSC, call them and ask if they do international/gulf area watches.

[wkhalaf]

Originally Posted by SamSam

I figured that bit. The cost of service in the US is $600 and they send you a mailing kit. I'm not quite sure about Bahrain. In Saudi Arabia, they don't have a RSC, so all work is done by the ADs in-house watchmakers. They trained few watchmakers at Rolex to do all the work, so you basically drop it off at the AD. An alternative is sending it to Dubai RSC, call them and ask if they do international/gulf area watches.

Thank you so much for the advice and the information .. Much appreciated !

[DJJon]

WAIT ! My Datejust did the same thing when it was about a year old because I foolishly overwound it. Now we all know that a Rolex "cannot be overwound" which is a true statement with respect to damaging the mechanism, but it IS true that if you go crazy and just keep winding, at some point further winding makes a grinding sound.

My problem was I gave it 40+ full 360 degree turns in an already mostly-wound state. Sort of an experiment that went bad. I was upset with myself for even trying.

My AD was willing to send it to RSC for a no charge warranty repair using some AD trick to get it done much faster than the standard first-in, first-out queue. That's a great offer and why I like him so much.

However, I let the watch wind down until stopped. Then I wound it up again and here we are 2 1/2 more down the road and never had the issue again.

So before sending it off and being without it, try letting it wind down til stopped.

Good luck !

[wkhalaf]

Originally Posted by DJJon

WAIT ! My Datejust did the same thing when it was about a year old because I foolishly overwound it. Now we all know that a Rolex "cannot be overwound" which is a true statement with respect to damaging the mechanism, but it IS true that if you go crazy and just keep winding, at some point further winding makes a grinding sound.

My problem was I gave it 40+ full 360 degree turns in an already mostly-wound state. Sort of an experiment that went bad. I was upset with myself for even trying.

My AD was willing to send it to RSC for a no charge warranty repair using some AD trick to get it done much faster than the standard first-in, first-out queue. That's a great offer and why I like him so much.

However, I let the watch wind down until stopped. Then I wound it up again and here we are 2 1/2 more down the road and never had the issue again.

So before sending it off and being without it, try letting it wind down til stopped.

Good luck !

THANK YOU SO MUCH! For your advice and all the members that have participated in this thread ...

I was travelling last week and i decided to park my DJ II in the safe box till i'm back .. for it to unwind ..

once I was back from abroad .. i started winding the watch and it actually felt really smooth and no grinding ..


All it needed was to be unwounded :D

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by wkhalaf

THANK YOU SO MUCH! For your advice and all the members that have participated in this thread ...

I was travelling last week and i decided to park my DJ II in the safe box till i'm back .. for it to unwind ..

once I was back from abroad .. i started winding the watch and it actually felt really smooth and no grinding ..


All it needed was to be unwounded :D

That the news we like to hear.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by wkhalaf

THANK YOU SO MUCH! For your advice and all the members that have participated in this thread ...

I was travelling last week and i decided to park my DJ II in the safe box till i'm back .. for it to unwind ..

once I was back from abroad .. i started winding the watch and it actually felt really smooth and no grinding ..


All it needed was to be unwounded :D

Myself think you are being a bit too OCD about your watch IMHO your watch is fine and nothing wrong with it.

[danedoc]

Having the same issue with my 2015 Sub....taking it in for service

[billee]

I had this problem with my DJII and it was 6mths over the two year warranty. They looked at it and told me it was"bone dry " inside and it broke the hair spring.

[jhendren]

I bought a vintage Rolex Datejust made in 1986. When I wind it grinds and feels resistant and gritty. Called dealer where I purchased watch and he said this is normal for older Rolex’s. The watch I am told was completely serviced and oiled and it still grinds when I wind. Keep’s perfect time and am glad I have 18 month warranty with purchase. Also, I completely let watch wind down where it stopped. It was still gritty and resistant when I wound watch. Hope this post helps and welcome feedback.

[East of Eden]

Originally Posted by jhendren

I bought a vintage Rolex Datejust made in 1986. When I wind it grinds and feels resistant and gritty. Called dealer where I purchased watch and he said this is normal for older Rolex’s. The watch I am told was completely serviced and oiled and it still grinds when I wind. Keep’s perfect time and am glad I have 18 month warranty with purchase. Also, I completely let watch wind down where it stopped. It was still gritty and resistant when I wound watch. Hope this post helps and welcome feedback.

That is my understanding, that that grinding isn't necessarily a problem.