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Straight · 19 February 2009, 01:29 AM

Having bought a GMT IIC last month, I've just noticed I can't really see the micro-etched crown on it. I haven't inspected one of those that close up looking for it before, but remember on a friends fake (know I shouldn't mention this!), the crown was very easy to see with the naked eye. This is not the case with mine real GMT IIC.

Does the GMT IIC have one, and should I be able to see it without a magnifying glass? Slightly perplexed here...

touchdowntodd · 19 February 2009, 01:38 AM

its there... you can BARELY see it with the naked eye and only if you have very good eyes,...

best way - small flashlight on the 12 spot, look through a loop at the 6 and you will see it

its HARD to see... its easy on fakes cause they are FAKE

Straight · 19 February 2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by touchdowntodd

its there... you can BARELY see it with the naked eye and only if you have very good eyes,...

best way - small flashlight on the 12 spot, look through a loop at the 6 and you will see it

its HARD to see... its easy on fakes cause they are FAKE

Ah, now I see it - so tiny and hard to see compared to a horrible fake. Your method worked a treat... I had been staring at it in bright daylight with no luck.

Thanks for the advice - you guys really know your Rolexes :D

A1000 · 19 February 2009, 01:45 AM

I agree it's at the 6 o'clock position normally and very small. On a genuaine Rolex it's made up of lots of small dots. I have found it is best to use an LED torch and a loop and even then it's quite a challenge. Good luck and let us know if you find it.

Straight · 19 February 2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by A1000

I agree it's at the 6 o'clock position normally and very small. On a genuaine Rolex it's made up of lots of small dots. I have found it is best to use an LED torch and a loop and even then it's quite a challenge. Good luck and let us know if you find it.

Not sure if this'll post right away as my last post apparently needed to be approved by a mod, but I found it :D

I must admit I was slightly worried for a second - just didn't realise quite how tiny they are on the genuine article. It's my first Rolex as you can tell!

generic0 · 19 February 2009, 01:47 AM

I got scared when I couldn't find mine either...TINY dots.

The good news is, you're right, often the fake ones have MORE prominent LEC's because the technology to make those tiny dots must be relatively expensive...

ayeya · 19 February 2009, 01:53 AM

it is one of these things that takes forever to find it, but once you find it you will always find it later on

A1000 · 19 February 2009, 02:03 AM

Glad you've managed to find it. It's always reassuring! As you say the photos I had seen of it made it look dececptively easy. I spent about 10 mins in the dealers looking for it before I got the light right.

Straight · 19 February 2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by generic0

I got scared when I couldn't find mine either...TINY dots.

The good news is, you're right, often the fake ones have MORE prominent LEC's because the technology to make those tiny dots must be relatively expensive...

I have to admit, I was worried for a moment!

I didn't buy new, but nearly-new from a very well respected dealer here in the UK, one of the biggest in the country for pre-owned.

And although the watch felt 100% like it should (having compared to one I was playing with at an AD in Dubai) and was waterproof etc, I got rather nervous when I couldn't find the dots!

SLS · 19 February 2009, 02:07 AM

This is the easiest way to find it

(photo courtesy of rocco1109)
~Scott

bodybump · 19 February 2009, 02:34 AM

"seek and you shall find"..hahahaha some of the coronet in some watches can found just anywhere ..but not exactly at 6 position...i found mine on my ss daytona by accident while driving..

touchdowntodd · 19 February 2009, 03:24 AM

mines just a HAIR off center... but makes it easy to see on a 45 degree angle looking right over the 6 oclock hand

the sub is a nice pic but honestly ive never seen one that low on the crystal, that big, or that easy to see... kinda worries me. im sure its just an optical illusion

hwilsdorf · 19 February 2009, 09:01 PM

Cool shot! If I have only read this earlier. Took me ages to get this shot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

This is the easiest way to find it

(photo courtesy of rocco1109)
~Scott

buz-lh · 19 February 2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by touchdowntodd

mines just a HAIR off center... but makes it easy to see on a 45 degree angle looking right over the 6 oclock hand

the sub is a nice pic but honestly ive never seen one that low on the crystal, that big, or that easy to see... kinda worries me. im sure its just an optical illusion

Is your date window a hair off center also? I understand that the no date watches can have the etching anywhere because it doesn't matter how the crystal is mounted but the ones with date windows should have the coronet at precisely 6 o'clock.

angelic_demon252000 · 19 February 2009, 11:29 PM

The coronet etching for my 14060M is right at 6.

ergaster · 19 February 2009, 11:34 PM

Are the micro-etched crowns on all new models now? Been over mine (Exp II, M serial) with a magnifying glass and can't see a thing...

Lion · 19 February 2009, 11:45 PM

My coronet etching on my Sub ND is also at the 6 o'clock position, never heard of it being elsewhere!!!

ergaster · 19 February 2009, 11:55 PM

Found it now using a microscope - wow it's not easy to find on a white dialled exp II....

JohnEaton · 20 February 2009, 02:07 AM

Black dial LEC

White dial LEC

The angle of light to the LEC is very important, at some angles almost invisible, other angles the LEC glows

ocwatching · 20 February 2009, 02:32 AM

after reading this post, I actually found mine on the 14060M while driving in the bright sunlight...45-degrees and lighting from 12 o'clock helps...and centered on 6 o'clock

kyle L · 20 February 2009, 02:56 AM

I found it on my explorer, but too much dust in the photo.

bcarmenRolex · 16 December 2009, 04:35 AM

Thanks! I was freaking out for a few minutes. I couldn't see it until I put my Surefire LED on it at an angle from the 12 towards the 6. Even then it was tough to make out.

Latrodectus · 16 December 2009, 12:12 PM

I am glad you found it!

ingoodtime · 16 December 2009, 12:17 PM

I used a red laser and a loop and still had trouble finding it but, I finally was able to see it.

19 February 2009, 01:29 AM	#1
Straight Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: London Posts: 17	Micro-etched coronet on GMT IIC Having bought a GMT IIC last month, I've just noticed I can't really see the micro-etched crown on it. I haven't inspected one of those that close up looking for it before, but remember on a friends fake (know I shouldn't mention this!), the crown was very easy to see with the naked eye. This is not the case with mine real GMT IIC. Does the GMT IIC have one, and should I be able to see it without a magnifying glass? Slightly perplexed here...

19 February 2009, 01:38 AM	#2
touchdowntodd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Todd (Richard) Location: Milwaukee, WI Watch: Deep Sea Sea Dwell Posts: 535	its there... you can BARELY see it with the naked eye and only if you have very good eyes,... best way - small flashlight on the 12 spot, look through a loop at the 6 and you will see it its HARD to see... its easy on fakes cause they are FAKE __________________ 2013 DSSD! (ME) M Series OP No Date,White Arabic,Smooth Bezel(WIFE) Yachtmaster 1 SS/PLAT (wife)

19 February 2009, 01:45 AM	#4
A1000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Adrian Location: UK Posts: 953	I agree it's at the 6 o'clock position normally and very small. On a genuaine Rolex it's made up of lots of small dots. I have found it is best to use an LED torch and a loop and even then it's quite a challenge. Good luck and let us know if you find it. __________________ Rolex 16610LV (2007) PAM 312K (2009) PAM 292K (2009)

19 February 2009, 02:03 AM	#8
A1000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Adrian Location: UK Posts: 953	Glad you've managed to find it. It's always reassuring! As you say the photos I had seen of it made it look dececptively easy. I spent about 10 mins in the dealers looking for it before I got the light right. __________________ Rolex 16610LV (2007) PAM 312K (2009) PAM 292K (2009)

19 February 2009, 02:07 AM	#10
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	This is the easiest way to find it (photo courtesy of rocco1109) ~Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

19 February 2009, 01:47 AM	#6
generic0 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Houston Watch: BP FF Bathyscaphe Posts: 116	I got scared when I couldn't find mine either...TINY dots. The good news is, you're right, often the fake ones have MORE prominent LEC's because the technology to make those tiny dots must be relatively expensive...

19 February 2009, 01:53 AM	#7
ayeya Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Watch: Daytona "M" series Posts: 133	it is one of these things that takes forever to find it, but once you find it you will always find it later on

19 February 2009, 02:34 AM	#11
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 DATEJUST41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,225	"seek and you shall find"..hahahaha some of the coronet in some watches can found just anywhere ..but not exactly at 6 position...i found mine on my ss daytona by accident while driving.. __________________

19 February 2009, 03:24 AM	#12
touchdowntodd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Todd (Richard) Location: Milwaukee, WI Watch: Deep Sea Sea Dwell Posts: 535	mines just a HAIR off center... but makes it easy to see on a 45 degree angle looking right over the 6 oclock hand the sub is a nice pic but honestly ive never seen one that low on the crystal, that big, or that easy to see... kinda worries me. im sure its just an optical illusion __________________ 2013 DSSD! (ME) M Series OP No Date,White Arabic,Smooth Bezel(WIFE) Yachtmaster 1 SS/PLAT (wife)

19 February 2009, 11:29 PM	#15
angelic_demon252000 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: malaysia Watch: 14060M Posts: 96	The coronet etching for my 14060M is right at 6.

19 February 2009, 11:34 PM	#16
ergaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Watch: Polar Exp II Posts: 31	Are the micro-etched crowns on all new models now? Been over mine (Exp II, M serial) with a magnifying glass and can't see a thing...

19 February 2009, 11:45 PM	#17
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	My coronet etching on my Sub ND is also at the 6 o'clock position, never heard of it being elsewhere!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 February 2009, 11:55 PM	#18
ergaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Watch: Polar Exp II Posts: 31	Found it now using a microscope - wow it's not easy to find on a white dialled exp II....

20 February 2009, 02:07 AM	#19
JohnEaton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Eaton Location: Nome Alaska USA Watch: Red1680 metres 1st Posts: 1,869	Black dial LEC White dial LEC The angle of light to the LEC is very important, at some angles almost invisible, other angles the LEC glows __________________ Perfection lies not in the organic whole but in the isolated fragment

20 February 2009, 02:32 AM	#20
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	after reading this post, I actually found mine on the 14060M while driving in the bright sunlight...45-degrees and lighting from 12 o'clock helps...and centered on 6 o'clock __________________ too much into watches...

20 February 2009, 02:56 AM	#21
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	I found it on my explorer, but too much dust in the photo.

16 December 2009, 04:35 AM	#22
bcarmenRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Barry Location: Florida Posts: 30	Thanks! I was freaking out for a few minutes. I couldn't see it until I put my Surefire LED on it at an angle from the 12 towards the 6. Even then it was tough to make out.

16 December 2009, 12:12 PM	#23
Latrodectus 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Fred Location: KY, USA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 10,002	I am glad you found it! __________________ Member # 16057 4-Hands Club Tosser Club Member TRF Skypers Group

16 December 2009, 12:17 PM	#24
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Lee Location: USA Posts: 2,834	I used a red laser and a loop and still had trouble finding it but, I finally was able to see it. __________________ Lee

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