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Old 9 December 2022, 03:58 AM   #1
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Your not popular opinions.

Any opinions you have about watches which you’re in the minority on but can’t understand why more don’t think your way? Just a bit of fun to get a non second hand prices debate going.

I have a few:

1) having a watch with over 150m wr on a leather strap is stupid. AP Offshores etc I never understand on leather

2) Tudor Black bay fifty eight for daily wear is superior to a Rolex.

3) Royal Oak 37mm is actually the best size they offer, most people have wrists too small for the 41mm

4) Rolex should scrap the Cellini line, at that price point too many better dress watch competitors.


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Old 9 December 2022, 04:03 AM   #2
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:03 AM   #3
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It seems like most of my opinions here are unpopular
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:09 AM   #4
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A few:

1. AP should be removed from the Holy Trinity and replaced with JLC.

2. The Speedmaster is better than the Daytona.

3. Rolex two tone watches are fantastic.

4. 36mm remains the classic size for a men’s watch.

5. Corollary to #4: Watch size doesn’t mean much and a good collection can and should have pieces ranging from 34mm to 44m.

6. Dress watches are underrated; sports watches are overrated.

I probably have some more, but these are the biggies that come to mind.
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One I just can't understand why people do it. That is paying over MSRP for a watch. Most are slightly to extremely overpriced to begin with.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:10 AM   #6
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- Supercase is an unnecessary amount of additional metal
- Fluted bezel is too flashy
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:13 AM   #7
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Good thread!

1. Grand Seiko is NOT the value some people claim it is (especially lately).
2. Dates are a way overused and usually unnecessary complication.
3. 5K+ watches with base off the shelf movements (SW200) is theft. (I'm looking at you
IWC, Bremont, B&R, and Breitling)
4. A GMT without a jumping hour isn't a GMT
5. James Bond isn't real
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:17 AM   #8
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A fluted and jubilee DJ 41 is too gaudy.
The Sub has become a cliche for the unimaginative.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:19 AM   #9
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A few:

1. AP should be removed from the Holy Trinity and replaced with JLC.
definitely a hot take so fits the thread but curious to hear why AP should be removed

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A fluted and jubilee DJ 41 is too gaudy.
The Sub has become a cliche for the unimaginative.
agree with both. the sub to me just fits into the fleece vest financial industry stereotype of nyc and i picture those guys getting in their bmws on the weekends lol. it's become the rolex to get when you just want a rolex and want people to know you have one
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:23 AM   #10
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definitely a hot take so fits the thread but curious to hear why AP should be removed



agree with both. the sub to me just fits into the fleece vest financial industry stereotype of nyc and i picture those guys getting in their bmws on the weekends lol
Same. If you suggested removing VC in favor of JLC, I could better understand the logic: Same conglomerate, former users movements from the latter, give credit where it’s due. Not sure I’d agree, but I’d better understand the rationale.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:23 AM   #11
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:25 AM   #12
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:27 AM   #13
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A few:

1. AP should be removed from the Holy Trinity and replaced with JLC.

2. The Speedmaster is better than the Daytona.

3. Rolex two tone watches are fantastic.

4. 36mm remains the classic size for a men’s watch.

5. Corollary to #4: Watch size doesn’t mean much and a good collection can and should have pieces ranging from 34mm to 44m.

6. Dress watches are underrated; sports watches are overrated.

I probably have some more, but these are the biggies that come to mind.

What he said.


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Old 9 December 2022, 04:29 AM   #14
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The modern Daytona is an ugly watch and one of the worst looking and performing chronos on the market.

36mm day date in yellow gold champagne is Rolex.

Rolex clutters their dials with unnecessary text, especially the submariner.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:30 AM   #15
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Here are mine:

The modularity of five-digit Rolexes was part of the charm.

D!(k measuring amongst manufacturers is pointless, put the PR/WR R&D funds elsewhere.

Complexity is great when it works right, simplicity is better when it doesn’t (talking claps here).

There’s a vast difference between “collecting” and “accumulating” which one should understand before buying a bunch of watches.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:31 AM   #16
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definitely a hot take so fits the thread but curious to hear why AP should be removed



agree with both. the sub to me just fits into the fleece vest financial industry stereotype of nyc and i picture those guys getting in their bmws on the weekends lol. it's become the rolex to get when you just want a rolex and want people to know you have one
A lot of it is just personal taste. I’m not a fan of the Royal Oak, and it seems like that is all AP really has going for it. I also think that some of their special additions are ridiculous. I recently joked to a friend that if Spinal Tap was remade into a movie about watchmakers, Nigel would come up with idea for a special edition Black Panther Tourbillon.

Also, I think JLC is very underrated. Unlike the Holy Trinity, they have models that start sub-10k, but they should not be penalized for that—especially since their true high end pieces are of a level that is virtually untouchable by anyone else.

I acknowledge that this is a contrarian opinion, but I’m like that.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:31 AM   #17
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Speedmaster is superior to Daytona.

Take the Rolex crown off a Daytona and it looks like a fairly average chrono.

The Speedmaster is unique, handsome and historically significant
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The modern Daytona is an ugly watch and one of the worst looking and performing chronos on the market.

36mm day date in yellow gold champagne is Rolex.
Agree with all of that
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A lot of it is just personal taste. I’m not a fan of the Royal Oak, and it seems like that is all AP really has going for it. I also think that some of their special additions are ridiculous. I recently joked to a friend that if Spinal Tap was remade into a movie about watchmakers, Nigel would come up with idea for a special edition Black Panther Tourbillon.

Also, I think JLC is very underrated. Unlike the Holy Trinity, they have models that start sub-10k, but they should not be penalized for that—especially since their true high end pieces are of a level that is virtually untouchable by anyone else.

I acknowledge that this is a contrarian opinion, but I’m like that.
100% spot on

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A few:

1. AP should be removed from the Holy Trinity and replaced with JLC.

(me nodding)
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The OP41 has way too much dial space and it’s proportions are cartoonish.
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All Rolexes basically look the same.
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:49 AM   #23
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definitely a hot take so fits the thread but curious to hear why AP should be removed



agree with both. the sub to me just fits into the fleece vest financial industry stereotype of nyc and i picture those guys getting in their bmws on the weekends lol. it's become the rolex to get when you just want a rolex and want people to know you have one
I would put the GMT up there as well. Very Rolex-looking and has PCLs
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Old 9 December 2022, 04:50 AM   #24
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The BLRO is massively overrated. Sold mine after a couple of years. Much prefer the 16710.

Also never warmed to the ceramic steel Daytonas.
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Watches are ridiculous.

You can get the time off your phone.



For a good time....call

xxx-xxx-%$*# (damn, censored)
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You should send your watch in every 2 years to do an oil change and overhaul.
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I hate a date on a watch.

If I needed a date I'd call xxx-xxx-%$*#
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