Why are JLC market values so low?

[ExplorerI]

I’m always amazed by how affordable the Jaeger Le-Coultre line goes for second hand. Recently saw an auction where a new rose gold ultra thin went for 8k. Retail on that is $19.4. You’re getting something pretty close to the quality of a Calatrava for less than a Datejust. What gives?

[Screwly]

Unfortunately, second hand pricing is usually pumped because of hype, and JLC is not a hyped up watch. Great value for buyers though.


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[steeevvvooo]

They do some great watches, have a rich heritage and fly under the radar for most people. That last point is important IMO... they didn't get caught in the hype. Jlc generally trade like most watches did until about 5 years ago, i.e. below list price.

A thread is useless without pics ;) , so...

I tried on the new Polaris Perpetual last week. Beautiful dial, but felt too "slab sided" to me despite the fact it isn't all that thick on paper.

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[ExplorerI]

Originally Posted by steeevvvooo

They do some great watches, have a rich heritage and fly under the radar for most people. That last point is important IMO... they didn't get caught in the hype. Jlc generally trade like most watches did until about 5 years ago, i.e. below list price.

A thread is useless without pics ;) , so...

I tried on the new Polaris Perpetual last week. Beautiful dial, but felt too "slab sided" to me despite the fact it isn't all that thick on paper.

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Very nice detailed dial on that. It does look pretty thick in the side shot though. I never got too excited about their line of modern Polaris but their moon phase dress watches look good

[Uncle2002]

Also tried on the Polaris PC last week but had a different impression. I guess if you approach the watch as a dress piece, it will feel too thick. But if you approach as a sports watch, it's actually very wearable and great wrist presence. To each their own...

[GusFring]

I plan to explore JLC this year and hopefully pick something up.

Don’t want to sound like a broken record but nothing viable interests me in the Rolex range

[stockjock1975]

Prices are what prices are. All i know is I LOVE JLC!!

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by ExplorerI

I’m always amazed by how affordable the Jaeger Le-Coultre line goes for second hand. Recently saw an auction where a new rose gold ultra thin went for 8k. Retail on that is $19.4. You’re getting something pretty close to the quality of a Calatrava for less than a Datejust. What gives?

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[Screwly]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Not endorsed by any rappers or ballers


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Not always just rappers or ballers. There’s a guy named John Mayer who is the biggest hypebeast over any rapper. Which I’m sure you’re aware lol


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[subtona]

Because their service costs are the price of the watch.

[robinmgb]

Brand recognition and service costs don’t help plus traditional dress style watches loose a lot of value from virtually every brand e.g Rolex Cellini

[ExplorerI]

Originally Posted by subtona

Because their service costs are the price of the watch.

Their service costs that much higher than a Rolex?

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by Screwly

Not always just rappers or ballers. There’s a guy named John Mayer who is the biggest hypebeast over any rapper. Which I’m sure you’re aware lol


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WHUT? lol he started with IWC. lol
not to sound like a fan boy but he knows his shit

[Screwly]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

WHUT? lol he started with IWC. lol
not to sound like a fan boy but he knows his shit

My point is that anything he touches with watches will automatically turn into a hype watch now a days. 116508 for example


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[subtona]

Originally Posted by ExplorerI

Their service costs that much higher than a Rolex?

I have not owned one but Starting over 2k from what I have heard on multiple occasions.

[FrankNYC]

They’re not overly blingy or large… so not much of a demand. I’m a big fan of the brand and there are definitely some values to be had. Especially in the dress watch segment. My formal dress watch for the longest was a Reserve De Marche 37.mm…. If you look around you can get them for about 3-3.4k used.

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by Screwly

My point is that anything he touches with watches will automatically turn into a hype watch now a days. 116508 for example


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oh. ok then that sounds right
but only that 116508.

the rest that he owns are almost out of reach

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by subtona

I have not owned one but Starting over 2k from what I have heard on multiple occasions.

not entirely true.
serviced a JLC Deepsea Alarm for less than 1k by JLC boutique

[subtona]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

not entirely true.
serviced a JLC Deepsea Alarm for less than 1k by JLC boutique

[Bmats]

Plus they have an 8 year warranty which helps out. Obviously won’t save you for a catastrophic damage, but something that just stops after a few years it should.

I love JLC but there’s probably a limit on what I’d spend on any single watch from them. As much as I really like the Duometre there’s no doubt something else from someone else I’d rather have for that money. And I’m unlikely to buy from a continue and would go to where I could get a discount or get secondhand.

[ajw45]

Originally Posted by subtona

Because their service costs are the price of the watch.

False. JLC service costs are very reasonable compared to the likes of AP, PP, ALS, etc. when it comes to complications. For what AP charges to service a time only watch JLC will service a tourbillon or a perpetual.

[SydR]

Just been quoted £570 for a full service on a Reverso Grande Talle. That’s Omega prices.

[stockjock1975]

Originally Posted by subtona

Because their service costs are the price of the watch.

Can’t speak to the more complicated models, but a full service and polish on my Geophysic 1958 was only $600ish. Which i didn’t think was too bad.

Plus they got the service completed and returned to me in about 5 weeks. MUcH better than service times for PP, ALS or AP

[Incroyable12]

Originally Posted by robinmgb

Brand recognition and service costs don’t help plus traditional dress style watches loose a lot of value from virtually every brand e.g Rolex Cellini

It costs several thousand to service some of the more complex dress watches. Servicing a JLC Perpetual Calendar is probably going to be $3k even from an independent.

There are a few other brands that have similarly poor resale value: Blancpain, IWC, Vacheron.

[PhilLynott]

Not sure but after having bought my first JLC last week there will most definitely be others added in the future

[fullofboats]

Originally Posted by ajw45

False. JLC service costs are very reasonable compared to the likes of AP, PP, ALS, etc. when it comes to complications. For what AP charges to service a time only watch JLC will service a tourbillon or a perpetual.

Agree

I took an AP PC, Lange, and JLC reverse in for servicing in December. Was quoted 6 months and +usd1k at Lange and 10 weeks and usd700 at JLC. AP still hasn’t gotten to me on a quote but it’ll be more than 6 months and probably usd3k

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by ajw45

False. JLC service costs are very reasonable compared to the likes of AP, PP, ALS, etc. when it comes to complications. For what AP charges to service a time only watch JLC will service a tourbillon or a perpetual.

AP servicing cost is a joke

[trackingtime]

some jlc love

[Wahlberg]

I never understood why they discontinue the deepsea. My favorite watch in a long time.

JLC is a bit like Vacheron, a bit boring and bland and rather expensive for most people. The current master control should be 37-38mm, the polaris is too big and thick etc.

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

I never understood why they discontinue the deepsea. My favorite watch in a long time.

JLC is a bit like Vacheron, a bit boring and bland and rather expensive for most people. The current master control should be 37-38mm, the polaris is too big and thick etc.

marketing not done right.
yea, the deepsea and also the master compressor line.
polaris, alittle thick but pretty handsome.

i am looking at the duometre next.