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Old 24 February 2020, 10:49 AM   #1
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Might be a stupid question. 116610LV running -3.7 seconds

Worth having serviced? Got my 116610LV this past Sept 2019. It’s been running slow since... def not within +2/-2 but within COSC. Most of my other 6 digit references are keeping a lot better time. Anywho. Just curious what people find acceptable.
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Old 24 February 2020, 10:52 AM   #2
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That would be right around my threshold. I prefer a slightly faster watch then a slow one. That being said, if I had multiple watches and the current watch hasn't been serviced in the last 4+ years, I'd send it in.
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Old 24 February 2020, 10:58 AM   #3
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That would be right around my threshold. I prefer a slightly faster watch then a slow one. That being said, if I had multiple watches and the current watch hasn't been serviced in the last 4+ years, I'd send it in.
Yeah, I’m on the fence. It’s so new from the AD but not sure I want to send it in so soon. If it was older I’d send it in. I picked up a 116618LB and another 1104060 at the same time and both are just under a second fast. This is the slow one... I hate slow watches... I too also prefer slightly faster so I’m not losing time and late to calls and meetings... as silly as that sounds.
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Old 24 February 2020, 10:59 AM   #4
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There are no stupid questions here friend! 3.7 is bearable, but towards the limit when I personally consider getting a service. Everyone is different, but anything over 5 sec consistently gets sent in.
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:00 AM   #5
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That wouldn’t bother me at all.
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:03 AM   #6
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There are no stupid questions here friend! 3.7 is bearable, but towards the limit when I personally consider getting a service. Everyone is different, but anything over 5 sec consistently gets sent in.
Thanks. I’ll keep an eye out on it for the next month or two and see how it goes. Haha I appreciate it!
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:59 AM   #7
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Set it 30 seconds fast. And try resting it dial up overnight.
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Old 24 February 2020, 12:01 PM   #8
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Set it 30 seconds fast. And try resting it dial up overnight.
This is what I would do.
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Old 24 February 2020, 12:23 PM   #9
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3.7 seconds is nothing to me. As long as I know what time it is I’m ok.
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Old 24 February 2020, 12:25 PM   #10
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One of the things I expect when I spend Rolex money is accuracy. Others may not mind, but if a new Rolex isn't keeping withing +/- 2 sec/day, I would probably send it in for service.

Also, as others have said, a watch that runs slower bothers me more than one that runs fast. I might look the other way for +3 sec/day, but -3/day would def get sent in.
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Old 24 February 2020, 12:27 PM   #11
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My experience with my Rolexes is - new watch will run slow and later faster. Not sure if is the oil drying up and less viscosity in the jewel. This happens to many of my Rolexes.
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Whenever you are not wearing it keep it dial up position. See if it starts to slowly gain time. Worked for my Sub losing 2 seconds per day. Experiment with it.
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Old 24 February 2020, 02:06 PM   #13
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Worth having serviced? Got my 116610LV this past Sept 2019. It’s been running slow since... def not within +2/-2 but within COSC. Most of my other 6 digit references are keeping a lot better time. Anywho. Just curious what people find acceptable.

Just curious, how many days has it been in use since September? Is it on your wrist 24/7? I have noticed wearing my subs for over a month straight at times one runs slower one runs faster.


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Old 24 February 2020, 02:47 PM   #14
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Set it 30 seconds fast. And try resting it dial up overnight.
Going to do this!

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This is what I would do.
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One of the things I expect when I spend Rolex money is accuracy. Others may not mind, but if a new Rolex isn't keeping withing +/- 2 sec/day, I would probably send it in for service.

Also, as others have said, a watch that runs slower bothers me more than one that runs fast. I might look the other way for +3 sec/day, but -3/day would def get sent in.
My thoughts exactly.

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Whenever you are not wearing it keep it dial up position. See if it starts to slowly gain time. Worked for my Sub losing 2 seconds per day. Experiment with it.
Awesome!

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Just curious, how many days has it been in use since September? Is it on your wrist 24/7? I have noticed wearing my subs for over a month straight at times one runs slower one runs faster.


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Good question, it’s in rotation and on my wrist a few times a week! I wear it a lot. But I do leave it on it’s non crown side. I will do what others have suggested and leave it dial up! Thanks!
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Old 24 February 2020, 02:59 PM   #15
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Superlative Chronometer is +2 / -2.

Outside that range is outside Rolex Warranty / Guarantee.

Std COSC is -4 /+6 or similar.

Get it fixed undef warranty now.

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Old 24 February 2020, 08:06 PM   #16
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Don't have a new watch cracked open for 1 sec out of spec. You might just get it back with new issues. Why risk it, wait until you have have a service done.
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Old 24 February 2020, 08:25 PM   #17
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Worth having serviced? Got my 116610LV this past Sept 2019. It’s been running slow since... def not within +2/-2 but within COSC. Most of my other 6 digit references are keeping a lot better time. Anywho. Just curious what people find acceptable.
First how did you test to -3.7 seconds,the bare uncased movements are still tested at the COSC to a AVERAGE OF -4+6 seconds daily rate to get the chronometer certification.After returned from COSC Rolex must test on machines many at a time as they make around 850000 plus every year and when tested on a machine in a controlled environment movement could pass the -2+2 spec at time of testing.But on the wrist thats a different matter as there are many many variables to overcome.Such as earth's gravity, metal expansion and contraction,mainspring power-reserve, temperature variations, subtle changes in lubrication and friction, shocks, and so on.So its possible watches could deviate by a second or so almost daily, then by resting overnight in different positions could balance out. But once time keeping drifts way way outside spec watch will need regulation a very simple task.Just because its been tested on a machine to -2+2 this dont mean it will be exactly the same every day for life its mechanical.And myself would never open a watch up for such a extremely small few seconds considering there are 86400 in a day.
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Old 24 February 2020, 09:49 PM   #19
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Before I would send it in I would give it a full wind and a week on the wrist to see what the numbers are. I have found that lack of wear has an impact on the accuracy of my watches and a winder does keep a watch wound but not as accurate as wrist wear. Also, stop timing and resetting daily. Set the watch and wear it and clock where you are over a week. I have found that the longer wear changes the accuracy somewhat on my watches. In the end if you are still 3.7 seconds fast a day learn to accept it. Don't fix things that are not broken and don't create issues where there are not one. I have neither the time or desire to worry about 1.7 seconds a day inaccuracy in my watch.
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:39 PM   #20
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mine was losing 3 sec a day, i did a test for 3 months. i told my certified Rolex repairman and he said better to be 3 seconds over than 3 seconds under. He made an adjustment, and now its 7-10 seconds in 2 weeks...and this was 5 months ago.
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:43 PM   #21
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Might be a stupid question. 116610LV running -3.7 seconds
Over what time period?
For how many measurements?

Need more data on the performance to determine anything. I would not open a watch, warranty or not based on this single measurement.
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:48 PM   #22
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Fully wind the watch "60 + full turns" wear it for at least 3 day, put it dial up at night. I bet you'll get different readings.
Let's know.
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Old 24 February 2020, 11:53 PM   #24
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Superlative Chronometer is +2 / -2.

Outside that range is outside Rolex Warranty / Guarantee.

Std COSC is -4 /+6 or similar.

Get it fixed undef warranty now.

(I recommend you buy a "timegrapher". Lots of fun watching your watch perform!)
+1 - A little outside of spec is fine, but I tend to want what I paid for in terms of accuracy. OP - you just have to determine if it's worth your time to send in (no pun intended!)
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Old 25 February 2020, 01:00 AM   #25
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For me this is really OCD, but your time and watch
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Worth having serviced? Got my 116610LV this past Sept 2019. It’s been running slow since... def not within +2/-2 but within COSC. Most of my other 6 digit references are keeping a lot better time. Anywho. Just curious what people find acceptable.
I just posted something in WatchTech that might be useful to read regarding this question. My post is called "Shaking watch adds seconds"

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=727073

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Old 25 February 2020, 01:18 AM   #27
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I'd just have it regulated if it bothers you.
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Old 25 February 2020, 01:22 AM   #28
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Do you really want your watch opened up for 1.7 seconds? I understand wanting accuracy out of your watch but if timing bugs you that much, mechanical watches might not be for you. The rate your watch is running at is fantastic.
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Old 25 February 2020, 03:51 AM   #29
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-3.7 seconds WILL vary over time/use/wearing patterns (as will any deviation.)

Your time deviation would not bother me and I am VERY finicky.

I used to get nervous over +/- 2 seconds, but watches with larger deviation have shown me it is a non-issue in "real life."

Live and learn in my case.


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I'd just have it regulated if it bothers you.
Agree with this.

Regulating a watch is not a complicated process.
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