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Old 5 November 2020, 07:50 AM   #1
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Any word on the 3861 movement update to the speedy pro?

Just a little musing, going back and forth....

I'm itching to add a chrono to my collection, really tempted by the Speedmaster, and more specifically the hesalite version! The warmth and unique character of that crystal, together with the timeless and awesome design of the speedmaster pro dial/case, strike me as a nearly perfect chrono. Definitely a staple for any collection. Helps that it looks awesome on so many straps, too.

Only thing holding me back is the new 3861 movement, I think it's worth waiting for that upgrade. Hacking, master chronometer, and antimagnetic aspects are icing on the cake!

Is it worth it to wait? I wish there was some more information.

Do you think they'll retain the same case / dial / design but simply switch out the movement? What other changes do you think might come? I wonder if the bracelet will be upgraded and include a micro-adjusting clasp. That would be worth the wait, as well.
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Old 5 November 2020, 08:46 AM   #2
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That's what I'm waiting for. 3861 > 1861 in my book.
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Old 5 November 2020, 10:17 AM   #3
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I asked my boutique the other day, they said it's definitely happening but they don't know when.
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Old 5 November 2020, 11:10 AM   #4
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I suppose you can wait for the new model, and then simply purchase the old one in case you find it's your preference.
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Old 5 November 2020, 12:40 PM   #5
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I suppose you can wait for the new model, and then simply purchase the old one in case you find it's your preference.
+1 This is very sensible advice
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Old 6 November 2020, 04:34 PM   #6
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https://www.revolution.watch/in-conv...omega-watches/

Towards the end of the article, the CEO of Omega says this
"Then we will have James Bond. Then we will have the Ryder Cup and we will have some amazing new watches related to the Speedmaster. We will have the new Moon watch coming out. "

Looks like 2021 will be the year for the new Moon Watch.
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Old 6 November 2020, 05:58 PM   #7
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https://www.revolution.watch/in-conv...omega-watches/

Towards the end of the article, the CEO of Omega says this
"Then we will have James Bond. Then we will have the Ryder Cup and we will have some amazing new watches related to the Speedmaster. We will have the new Moon watch coming out. "

Looks like 2021 will be the year for the new Moon Watch.
Excellent interview. I like the attitude of Mr Aeschlimann.

About Snoopy: "I read on the Omega forums that they were complaining that the watch should be limited, and I was thinking, “Thank you, guys. You were complaining five years ago that we should stop with the limited edition, especially because not enough people can get the watches.”

"We are Omega, we don’t like to exclude people as some others do."

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Old 11 November 2020, 05:42 PM   #8
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"We are Omega, we don’t like to exclude people as some others do."

I thought that was awesome too.
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Old 11 November 2020, 06:32 PM   #9
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It's that mentality combined with great watches that has made Omega my go to brand. I am also waiting for the update, quite looking forward to going in and purchasing it without any BS.

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Old 11 November 2020, 06:47 PM   #10
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I think we will see some updates to dial, hands and/or bezel. It wouldn’t surprise me if they went ceramic bezel on all models.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see the hesalite sandwich brought back. But, I think we will lose the NASA certification along with it.

The moonwatch as we know it may well just die. That’s why I went for the original 1861.
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Old 11 November 2020, 07:18 PM   #11
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I’m afraid of what the price “upgrade” might be, but nonetheless I’m waiting impatiently for the new Moonwatch. I hope it comes on a flat link bracelet.
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Old 11 November 2020, 07:44 PM   #12
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I’m afraid of what the price “upgrade” might be, but nonetheless I’m waiting impatiently for the new Moonwatch. I hope it comes on a flat link bracelet.
Given recent Omega pricing (321, Apollo 11, Snoopy, No Time to Die) I think it's an absolute certainly that Omega will use a new release to elevate the price of the base Speedmaster.

It's been underpriced (as a package) for years. BUT, there will need to be upgrades. Adjustability in the clasp should be one.

The 3861 will happen though. No doubt in my mind. Omega aren't recovering the 3861 capex on a couple of special edition releases.
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I hope it comes on a flat link bracelet.
Hopping that too and to fit to the current Speedy!!
I will jump all over that flat link
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Old 12 November 2020, 03:41 PM   #14
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Given recent Omega pricing (321, Apollo 11, Snoopy, No Time to Die) I think it's an absolute certainly that Omega will use a new release to elevate the price of the base Speedmaster.

It's been underpriced (as a package) for years. BUT, there will need to be upgrades. Adjustability in the clasp should be one.

The 3861 will happen though. No doubt in my mind. Omega aren't recovering the 3861 capex on a couple of special edition releases.
A price increase certainly isn’t unfounded, especially considering the technical upgrades involved in the 3861, and yes, I also hope an adjustable clasp. I’m just too accustomed to the unbelievable value that the Speedy Pro has offered for so many years.

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Hopping that too and to fit to the current Speedy!!
I will jump all over that flat link
Seriously. When I see photos of the new 321 Ed White I’m drawn mostly to the look of the bracelet, which of course is ridiculous considering the movement in that watch.
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Seriously. When I see photos of the new 321 Ed White I’m drawn mostly to the look of the bracelet, which of course is ridiculous considering the movement in that watch.
Exactly this!! Your are not alone
Love that damn bracelet I’d go pay 1.5k to have one on my Speedy if they release one that fits current Moonwatch


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